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2012-09-26 at 15:53

Idle-free schools

By Leith Dunick, tbnewswatch.com
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Teachers and students couldn’t agree more, a no-idling zone outside Ecole Gron Morgan and Corpus Christi schools is just what their lungs are asking for.

Parents picking up their children are being asked to turn their engines off outside the school when waiting for more than 10 seconds , part of the local school boards’ school travel planning program, designed to encourage more students to either bike or walk to school.

Ecole Gron Morgan prinicipal Denise Baxter said because her school draws from such a wide area, it means a higher proportion get dropped off by parents each day.

“We have asked parents to park a block away from the school so they can take the time to walk to the school. It frees up traffic congestion around the school and it makes it a lot safer for kids not to have to walk between parked cars,” Baxter said on Tuesday at the campaign launch.

“With regard to the idling itself, there are a number of parents who are already parked to pick up their kids. The no idling signs are up and parents are turning their cars off. Anything we can do, even on a small scale to reduce air pollution I think will really ensure that we keep the clean air we have in Thunder Bay clean.”

Eleven-year-old Maya Poulin says she walks to school every day for a variety of reasons.

“It’s exercise and it’s better for the environment instead of driving,” the Grade 7 student said. “And it’s just a fun way (to get here) instead of sitting in a car,” she said.

The loss of the gas fumes outside the school suits her just fine.

“It’s kind of strong to the lungs when you’re just walking by and you can smell the fumes.”

It’s also a lot better for their well-being, said public health nurse Stasia Starr of the Thunder Bay District Health Unit.

Anti-idling programs bring more awareness to the issue, and most parents seem to understand that idling does have an impact on young lungs.

“Children are smaller, their lungs are developing and they breathe more rapidly,” she said. “From a health perspective they are impacted at a greater degree. They’re actually taking more air, so when air is more polluted, it has a greater health impact to children.”

The program was boosted through a $2,500 donation from Union Gas and was organized through EcoSuperior’s environmental programs.

In 2007 city officials directed municpal staff to observe the 10-second rule when driving city fleet vehicles and set maximum warm-up times for above and below 0 C.

A year later city council also limited idling at travel plazas to five minutes for vehicles with more than three axles.


 

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barry medawin says:
So like what's that thing under the crossed out circle on the sign? It looks like either a baby wrapped in a blanket or a giant doggie doo doo.
9/26/2012 6:42:18 PM
jonthunder says:
Ten (10) seconds? Has someone lost their sense of reality?
9/26/2012 6:54:51 PM
wayne says:
"Parents picking up their children are being asked to turn their engines off outside the school when waiting for more than 10 seconds"

more than 10 seconds...lol...oh well, the parents can turn off their engines and light up a smoke while they wait for few minutes in their vehicles before taking their kids to McDonald's for a healthy meal.
9/26/2012 8:04:36 PM
bman says:
lets see how many parents do this when its -30 or -40 outside.
9/26/2012 8:14:49 PM
ken1 says:
Wow.....about time....it is amazing to an old guy (52) who never took a bus to school to see the fuel required to get a child to school today. Then we shake our heads and wonder why so many children are obese? Does the cause and effect escape us these days?
9/26/2012 9:25:55 PM
blazebrown says:
I think this is good. but bad at the same time. you use more gas turning your vehicle on then you do when you idle. And gas prices are high as it is. It might be more "safer" but i am not going to waste gas.
9/26/2012 10:02:28 PM
Conker2012 says:
**more "safer"** It sounds like somebody spent more time sitting in their idling car than learning english in the classroom.

By the way, only in limited situations is it more economical to let your car idle than to shut it off and start it when needed. A cold start usually results in an initial high engine speed to warm up the engine, lets say 3k-4k rpm, but most people waiting will already have warm engines. The average engine will reduce to idle in about 60 seconds and most idle around 1.0k-1.3k rpm. For an average start of a waiting the engine is running at an average speed of 1.5k-2krpm for 1min then is at idle of 1.1 rpm. Therefore the start does use more fuel from cold start but uses less fuel than letting your car run for 1 mins. Most people will not be parking for less than 1 mins anywhere at any time so it is safe to say that shuting your car off is better since your car will be already warm and will reduce engine speed to idle much faster.
9/27/2012 9:56:21 AM
localdog says:
That is just a myth. Idling for ten seconds uses more gas than what is required to start your car (provided the engine is not a blown 454). So if you're idling for ten minutes, you could have restarted your car a few dozen times with no extra fuel expense or wear and tear on the engine.
9/27/2012 11:01:40 AM
panzerIV says:
Depends on the age of your vehicle. Newer vehicles use technology like direct injection, etc that means turning on your engine only uses enough to turn it over. Newer cars it actually uses less gas then to keep running.

If your one of thunder bay's early late 90's, early 2000's vehicles where the thinking was 'put the biggest engine in possible' then your likely right.
9/27/2012 11:04:13 AM
random says:
Not true about using more gas to start up then when at idle, unless it is a cold start up. When your vehicle is warmed up, it uses less gas to restart.
9/27/2012 11:04:44 AM
countrychick says:
I get the point of this program but i have to ask what the compliance will be in january when it is 45 below and you are waiting for your child to get out of school... just a thought...
9/27/2012 8:20:50 AM
spooner19 says:
Shutting your vehicle off and starting it again wastes more gas than idling, also worse for your vehicle. Whats next no idling at the Tims drive through?
9/27/2012 10:28:22 AM
SomeGuy says:
Your car does not instantly become -30 inside when you turn the engine off.
9/27/2012 12:34:02 PM
buzzerd says:
" you use more gas turning your vehicle on then you do idling" uhhhhhhhh lets put that old wife's tale to rest, no you don't. Reason #48 that gas prices are still to low- the fact that you have to tell people to not idle their vehicle for extended periods getting 0 miles per gallon.
9/27/2012 2:15:15 PM
pagirl says:
Walk to school instead like all the rest of us used to. Can't understand why kids can't even walk a few blocks these days.
9/27/2012 2:28:39 PM
CountryGirl88 says:
Honestly there are so many other issues that need to be looked at in schools that this is waste of time and money...a joke as far as I'm concerned!
9/27/2012 2:48:05 PM
IUsedToLiveTBay says:
Put an extra layer of clothing on, a sweater, hat, mitts.... Thunder Bay!

My god you're a bunch of babies, complaining about the littlest things all day long. It is because of small minded people like the regulars on here who ruin tbnewswatch's goal to keep us informed.

It even says on the picture of the sign "CHILDREN BREATHING" ... its about their health, not the fact you'll get a couple goosebumps for 10 minutes.
9/27/2012 3:25:27 PM
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