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2014-07-07 at 13:52

CLE goes smoke free

By Jodi Lundmark,
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THUNDER BAY -- The Canadian Lakehead Exhibition’s family fair is going smoke-free for the first time in 124 years.

CLE president Danny Mosa said it's his understanding they are the first agricultural fair in the province to designate most areas of the fair as smoke-free.

The midway, food court and main stage areas will all be smoke-free zones. There will be areas where smokers can light up and those areas will have signs posted.

"Last year some people were saying some people are annoyed by the smoke," said Mosa, adding most people who attend the fair don't smoke.

Mosa also said enforcement of the no-smoking zones was a concern and all they can really do is ask people to kindly consider other's people's concerns about the smoke.

"If you find yourself smoking in a designated area for non-smokers, we'll ask you to either put the butt out or go somewhere else," he said.

"I think it's basically just common sense."

The rest of the fair, which runs from Aug. 6 to 10, will be familiar to those who have attended in the past with the midway, live entertainment, cooking demonstrations and animal exhibits.

New this year is different musical acts on the stage every night.

"In the past we'd have performers come in and they'd play four or five days," said Mosa.

Last year they tried bringing in a couple of different acts and it worked so well, Mosa said they decided to have a different performer on each night.

Those musicians include Danny Fernandes, Aaron Pritchett and Platinum Blonde.

"Hopefully that will give a variety and everybody will enjoy the bandstand," said Mosa.

Advance ride tickets to the fair will be available starting Wednesday at city Metro stores for half-price at $15.

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realist says:
If there are designated smoking areas, then why does your headline say "CLE goes smoke free."
7/7/2014 2:02:39 PM
oscarmyerweiner says:
Really, your outside..........not to mention outside with cars with exhaust.
7/7/2014 2:15:37 PM
OdieCleghorn says:
Long overdue & should be 100% smoke free. Now how about addressing the unsupervised children problem. Please come back Kakabeka Street Fair...
7/7/2014 2:35:07 PM
bttnk says:
It's about time! I wish the Bluesfest would do the same. Smoking in public space should be banned city wide.
7/7/2014 2:52:06 PM
mhouston says:
Yes it is outside but it is still a public space. Thunder Bay seems to be really behind the times when it comes to smoking. The Ontario Law actually is written so that even public outdoor spaces are supposed to be smoke free with designated smoking areas. Look at Canada's Wonderland, you have to smoke in the designated areas or you will be asked to leave. Same with the CNE (in Toronto). It is quite literally common sense.
7/7/2014 3:17:27 PM
moodie says:
well boo hoo to all those non smokers .it's a free world as far as I know and these are outdoor events. remember you reap the benefits of all the tax I pay for those cancer sticks!!!!oh yeah I'm not gonna sue anyone either for the follies I enjoy!!!!
7/7/2014 3:28:45 PM
musicferret says:
The amount of taxes you pay on smokes during your lifetime does not cover the massive additional costs of your healthcare. Smokers get sick more often, for a longer duration, and use a far larger amount of $ for healthcare than their additional taxes paid would ever cover.
7/7/2014 4:30:11 PM
ring of fire dude says:
Yes , but on a different slant , how many smokers do you see taking up beds in long term care . Not very many and look what that's costing taxpayers .
7/8/2014 8:32:51 AM
tbaynorth says:
I know you may be offended because you are losing your freedom to smoke anywhere, but some people have health issues that are exasperated by cigarette smoke. COPD, Asthma, allergies, and other health issues come to mind. Not to mention being exposed to the smoke will increase the risk of cancer.

You choose to smoke, we can't choose not to breathe it when you decide to smoke in a public area. We try to move away, but just run into someone else smoking.
7/7/2014 10:43:53 PM
djs says:
It will be interesting to see how well this goes over. Unless it is policed, there will be people who will smoke wherever they feel like smoking because they are "outside" and they paid to get in to the CLE just like everyone else" and "smoking outside isn't illegal" and "it is none of anyone else's business when or where they smoke." I hope that it is enforced and people are respectful, but I won't be holding my breath--except when I have to walk past the smokers!
7/7/2014 3:46:55 PM
Watchmaker says:
It could be policed and quite effectively. Since the event is in the open air and the carnies staff the rides, games, food venues, etc. the entire site could be considered a workplace....
7/7/2014 6:18:41 PM
AndersonSilvasLeg says:
smoking outside isn't illegal but when you're on private property and they enforce a smoking ban then... yes it is technically "illegal".

Or rather, grounds to get you tossed out of the venue.
7/9/2014 11:54:20 AM
tom0066 says:
I'm a smoker and i think this is a good idea. The people who don't smoke do not need to be breathing in the smoke that we choose to poison ourselves with. I hope they enforce this!!!
7/7/2014 5:16:55 PM
tex_mex-fry says:
I'm an ex-smoker that still loves the taste, feeling, and just everything about smoking....and I think this is a great idea. I never had an issue going somewhere else to smoke like designated smoking areas. For the 5-8 minutes for a cigarette, it's hardly an issue to go to another area to smoke.
7/7/2014 5:52:25 PM
iknowbest says:
cant even smoke outside anymore, and where do they get most of the patrons attending the fair dont smoke , lol. Communism at its best. what a joke
7/7/2014 5:58:10 PM
thisismyotheraccount says:
They're not saying you can't smoke, they're saying that you need to smoke in a designated area. As an ex-smoker, I think this is a great idea, and I would think it's great even if I still smoked. Just because I make a personal choice to poison my body, does not mean others should have to suffer along with me. It's a selfish and entitled attitude you have if you think otherwise.
7/8/2014 9:47:40 AM
donnybrook says:
Smokers sure are a self-indulgent bunch aren't they? The CLE is mainly for families and kids, are you that ignorant that you think kids should have to be subjected to the stank of your cancer sticks? Are you that weak that you can't control your addiction for a few hours and enjoy breathing in some fresh air for a while? Wow man, talk about living in a box.
7/7/2014 6:18:45 PM
NFA16 says:
@moodie. I'm pretty sure it will be my tax dollars paying for your medical care you'll need from your beloved "cancer sticks" too.
7/7/2014 6:36:34 PM
Shane Caker says:
They've also just gone Shane Caker free as well!!Have fun whoever's going.
7/7/2014 6:37:54 PM
Blah blah says:
Just don't use health care to cover your smoking related illnesses.
7/7/2014 6:39:13 PM
designergal says:
I think any venue that admits children under the age of 18 should be totally smoke free. A few hours with the children for a "day for them" should not be too hard for any adult to go smoke free for those few hours! But to be fair the smoking areas are a good thing for those who can not go without for that long.
7/7/2014 8:13:34 PM
Murphy says:
Nobody reaps the benefits of tax dollars from "cancer sticks" as you so graciously put it...what is generated from tobacco doesn't even pay for all the treatment needed to treat all of the unfortunate people with cancer caused from smoking or second hand smoking.

You choose to smoke I choose to avoid this carcinogenic...why do you need to force it on ppl because you are outside? The entire event should be smoke free...there are children around. Common sense is all. The sad thing is ppl will disregard the "designated areas" and nothing will have changed..the grounds will be covered with cigarette butts.

7/7/2014 10:03:48 PM
bttnk says:
@ Murphy - Sorry but as much as I am anti smoking, you don't have much in the way of evidence to back up your assertion. The Canadian government generates approximately $8 Billion dollars annually in tobacco tax revenue. Whether illness related directly to smoking can be attributed to consuming that $8 billion each year is anyones guess, but here are some statistics for you:

Canadas population is 35 million and approximately 19% (6.7 million people) smoke. Doing quick math that would represent $1,200 in healthcare expenditures for smoking related illness for every smoker every year. even the 16-24 age group where the majority of smokers sit. Just some food for thought
7/8/2014 8:38:33 AM
energyplan says:
What a nice change. I was very happy when smoking was outlawed in restaurants and bars. People should smoke in their own homes, where they can deal with the nasty smells and side effects if they choose to do that.

It's disgusting to live in a neighborhood where all you can smell is cigarettes when you open a window, and there are butts littered all over the ground where the kids play. Banning smoking (or creating designated areas far away from others) at family events like this is a good move.
7/7/2014 11:00:32 PM
Today1 says:
Really...I'm not a smoker, but has this gotten out of hand? Is there really such a smoking problem at the CLE? .................
7/7/2014 11:21:29 PM
Mason bar beenie says:
Tobacco addicts don't realize how stinky it is. Yuck.
And you're not just outdoors, you're on private property, so quit complaining about following the rules. Smoking is a gross habit, if you want to do it go to your own home.
7/8/2014 12:28:43 AM
Wile E. says:
I smoke a little bit but could care less about having a dart in the fairgrounds. This isn't about a second hand smoke issue. It's about trying to clean up an event that has gone considerably down hill lately. A steep price to get in, over priced food items, crappy rides, garbage everywhere and teenagers drunk or high. I'll spend my money elsewhere, smoke free or not.
7/8/2014 7:25:32 AM
dockboy says:
Is it really that bad when people smoke outside? Banning smoking indoors was a great idea, but now these radicals want smoking banned on the planet. Most smokers abide by the rules and seek out the designated areas. This whole sutuation regarding smoking is getting ridiculous. Whose next, people who are obese?
7/8/2014 8:31:31 AM
maggie says:
I am so sick of these none smokers ramming all this crap down our throats. If you don't like the smoking go after the ones who are profiting from the sales. Easier to pick on the little guy I guess. As for the comment that Thunder Bay is the first to implement this, stop trying to get your name in the news. I remember going to the CLE as a child sitting on the grass with our lunch that we brought no one complained about smoking. Now you walk around on concrete you cant even bring your own water on the grounds. What about these carnies that operate the rides are they going to be exempt from smoking on the job? I am really tired of being herded into some back parking lot to have a smoke, why not designate a spot for the none smokers to sit then the smoke wont bother them unless the wind is blowing their way. Oh no. Why don't you hand out face masks at the entrances. What about the smoke that comes from some of the food booths is it different breathing this smoke in when you walk by?
7/8/2014 9:34:17 AM
notorious says:
you cannot be serious
7/8/2014 4:21:24 PM
mrpops238 says:
Thank god. I hate smokers. They don't understand how bad they smell. Or they do understand but don't care. I can't stand the smell of smoke and sadly I live with smokers. It drives me crazy. The smell gives me headaches. It is such a disgusting habit.
7/8/2014 11:05:02 AM
Wile E. says:
I get tired of these people who bring tobacco and the health care expenses into it. what about people who tan, people who overeat, people who drink, medicinal marihuana etc. The very food we eat is carcinogenic compared to 100 years ago. Good for a smoke free carnival but it's about its about having a family perceived event. Nothing to do with second hand smoke.
7/8/2014 12:19:07 PM
Dockboy says:
mrpops238. Must be tough living with people you hate.
7/8/2014 3:58:01 PM
Tomthebomb says:
man what is all the bs and arguing about i am a smoker and have attended the cle every year but this year i not going and its not because of the smoking just tired of the fighting that goes on along with it man people grow up its outside if you want to go have a great time if not don't go simple
7/12/2014 4:17:46 PM
Harold says:
Just wait until you smokers get lung cancer or a loved one gets lung cancer, it NOT fun and it can indeed happen to you.
7/14/2014 9:31:19 AM
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