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2010-08-16 at 17:13

NOSM employees hit picket lines as talks break down

By Jodi Lundmark, tbnewswatch.com
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At midnight Monday more than 150 Northern Ontario School of Medicine administrative, technical and clerical staff walked off the job.

Picket lines are in place at both Lakehead and Laurentian Universities’ campuses after the union representing employees failed to work out a first collective agreement with their employer. Late last month, members of the Ontario Public Service Employees Union Local 677 voted 97 per cent in favour of strike action if talks broke down. After 34 days at the negotiating table an agreement couldn’t be reached.

Hours of work, overtime, sick leaves, family leaves and wages are some of the issues at he forefront, but the starting point is a collective agreement, said Local 677 president Yuk-Sem Won.

"We don’t have anything enshrined in a document that ensures there’s equality or anything that has a process really written down in a way that it’s an agreement," she said. "So far we only have protocols and policies and we really want it to be equitable and fair."

The union has proposed basic collective agreement language and isn’t asking for a lot of extras, Won added.

"We don’t mind staying status quo like the employer has suggested but they will not put into writing what status quo means,’ she said. "We’ve had a real issue getting them to respect what the proposed language means."

Won said they are willing to continue to negotiate and NOSM has their proposals.

"When they’re ready to give us something that seems to be fair and equitable and that we can talk about, we’re willing and able to go back to negotiations."

NOSM dean Roger Strasser said he is hopeful negotiations will resume quickly and are willing to return to the bargaining table to work towards completing the collective agreement.

"This is a first collective agreement and that means every word in the collective agreement needs to be carefully considered," he said. "It’s very time consuming and it’s very important because of course what’s written in this first collective agreement affects the subsequent agreements so we wanted to make sure we take that time and get it right."

He added he believed the two negotiating teams were working well together in achieving the agreement, but after a conciliator was called into the talks in July, the union soon felt the negotiations weren’t proceeding as they liked.

With the newest group of medical students set to begin orientation next week and classes to start the following week, Strasser said as soon as they learned three weeks ago there could be a labour disruption, the school began preparing for such a scenario.

"Our focus is very much on maintaining the education process of the school and fulfilling our obligations of our students and residents and all of the learners," Strasser said. "That’s what we’ll be doing; ensuring the education programs continue and the students aren’t disadvantaged."

Won said she’s hoping the employer will call them back to the table with some proposals so the situation can be resolved quickly.

"We’ve been here for Northern Ontario since the beginning," she said. "Our staff has worked non-stop for Northern Ontario, for the students, for our physicians, for our communities. We will come back … in the meantime, we have to have a working environment that’s agreeable. How can we serve Northern Ontario if we don’t have working conditions that are acceptable?"


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collie says:
I for one would really like to know the details of this whole thing. BE honest what is being asked for by the union (IN DETAIL) that is DEAL breaker. Taxpayers and student fees ect... pay the wages so the Public has the Right to know. If you want support than open up if not willing to do that than get back to work and be happy you have a good job!
8/16/2010 7:02:49 PM
Isitme? says:
3% no to fairness?
8/16/2010 10:32:08 PM
ranma says:
So we are still in a recession, and these people opt to strike. Way to go. Way to show that greed is king. I feel bad for all the students this will affect if they are still on strike come September.
8/16/2010 11:08:29 PM
tannharr says:
Give me a break! Get back to work!
8/17/2010 7:49:08 AM
tbay04 says:
Poll the NOSM students and NOSM residents for their opinion before negotiating any contract. Now that admin staff is on strike and management will cover their workload maybe the students and residents will finally see some production out of those offices.
8/17/2010 9:27:44 AM
feduptaxpayer#1 says:
What a waste of my TAXES! At least stop them from blocking the roads and harassing people who actually have things to do! Force them to let the buses in! What if someone in a wheelchair has to get to the CAMPUS and they have to take the BUS!? I suppose all the NOSM Greedy Paper-Pushers want them to spend half an hour making their way to LU FROM THE ROAD!!! My TAX DOLLARS pay for those buses! I want them to do their JOB without INTERFERENCE!!!
8/17/2010 11:53:30 AM
windphart says:
Lakehead and NOSM are two separate entities even though NOSM occupies the ATAC building. Most administration is duplicated at NOSM. The admin to student ratio is a huge difference when comparing the university to NOSM. For example, they have an IT staff that does the same thing as the LU staff, except the LU staff manages a few thousand students while NOSM manages about 100.

The point here is that this division of services was forced upon LU to maintain their autonomy. Fine, but we the taxpayer has to pay for this replication. NOSM, after being here for four years replaced most of their desks, chairs and shelves last summer and knocked out walls to make a nicer work area. Must be nice to have that kind of budget. The rest of the university is still using chairs and desk some as old as 20 years.

LU was forced to take a four day layoff at Christmas to make up for a financial shortfall. NOSM was not part of that deal.
Job for job pays a bit higher at NOSM over LU.

The university gets 11 sick days a year that are bankable to 120 days. Not bad. What more could they want? Folks, you may not have an optimal work environment but suck it up. You have it better than most. It's a priveledge, not a right. You may have earned your right to work their through education but you're not immune to slides in the economy either.

It's hard to ask for sympathy when you already have it better than most people. Think about the job before you had at NOSM and reconsider the strike.
8/17/2010 11:57:18 AM
hockeyday says:
Its actually sad to see the resentment and intolerance against workers who actually have the guts and ability to stand up for themselves and their families. Its not greed when you're losing money on the picket line and fighting for language in a first agreement. I can only think there's a lot of malicious jealousy from those with no union strength with poor pay and benefits in their mcjobs and from those who own or manage businesses who want all the power.
8/17/2010 12:57:41 PM
Fox Moulder says:
Hey guys don't forget that those people on the picket lines are tax payers too. As for the comment about Lakehead and NOSM being separate... they are. NOSM is light years head of Lakehead in terms of it's technology and programming. NOSM is a state of the art school and to compare it to a school stuck in 1977 (yes I am refering to you Ryan Building with no pluggin's let alone internet access) it is completely unfair. I would like to know if there are that many staff how many managers are there? Seriously there are 150 something odd staff and 56 students. Use your head... have you even looked in the door at NOSM? Do you have any idea what it takes to make ONE medical doctor? It's not an arts program where you buy a few text books and call it a day. The students are equipt with many pieces of technology. It takes a small village to run the medical school. Besides if you are so concerned with how many staff are working at NOSM who do you think made the decision to hire them... management!
8/17/2010 1:31:43 PM
just saying says:
I think it is interesting to read some of the comments and perceptions of the assumed "benefits" the administrative staff at NOSM have. I seem to recall at the 2009 (and maybe 2010) graduates of the medical school had a chartered bus to the convocation ceremony while ever other program graduate had to find there own way and stand out in the cold to wait for the ceremony to start, I don't think the staff benefited from that spending....also just an FYI the picket line is not objecting to city buses coming on to the property, in fact this was Thunder Bay City Transits way of showing support to the Picket line and was a decision made by transit. I believe other unionized companies have also taken this stance such as Pepsi.
8/17/2010 3:02:28 PM
just saying says:
I think it is interesting to read some of the comments and perceptions of the assumed "benefits" the administrative staff at NOSM have. I seem to recall at the 2009 (and maybe 2010) graduates of the medical school had a chartered bus to the convocation ceremony while ever other program graduate had to find there own way and stand out in the cold to wait for the ceremony to start, I don't think the staff benefited from that spending....also just an FYI the picket line is not objecting to city buses coming on to the property, in fact this was Thunder Bay City Transits way of showing support to the Picket line and was a decision made by transit. I believe other unionized companies have also taken this stance such as Pepsi.
8/17/2010 3:02:35 PM
tbay04 says:
I wonder if anyone has thought of the impact this will have on recruiting doctors to our area.

Thunder Bay has a doctor shortage - this is well known. Why would med students or residency candidates select NOSM as their place of study knowing that the admin staff arent in place to facilite the programs.

The theory of NOSM, as I understand it, is if you train in the north you will more likely practice in the north. I would think this strike will reduce training oportunities in the North and eventually lead to fewer docs practicing hear.

I'd like to see an interview of the doctor recruitment team for the Thunder Bay area and see what their thoughts are.
8/17/2010 4:29:32 PM
tannharr says:
@hockeyday, I am a unionized public employee. I have no sympathy for the NOSM picketers, nor any union picketers what-so-ever. Yes, they may be losing money while on strike, but they obviously believe that it's worth it if it means better pay and better benefits in the long run. In this day, especially with hundreds of thousands of people losing their jobs, nobody should have the right to demand more.

Unions will eventually be the death of us all, as we will always demand more and more each year, which in turn drives up costs of products and services. When the price of products and services increase, we must demand more in order for us to afford them. It's a vicious circle and it eventually needs to end!!!

Let's go back to what unions were actually created for. Equality, safer working conditions, and yes, benefits, but just the basics. None of this other bullshit.
8/18/2010 8:25:12 AM
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