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2011-02-01 at 14:46

Homeowner, business fined for building without permits

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A homeowner and a business owner have been fined for building on their properties without the proper permits.

The City of Thunder Bay announced Tuesday that it had obtained the two fines in provincial offences court last week.

The first fine was $1,500 and levied against a homeowner on Fairwinds Way. The homeowner received the fine after building a garage at the back of the property without obtaining a building permit.

The second fine was $750 and was levied against a business owner on Alloy Drive. The court heard how the business owner built an addition to his shop without getting a building permit.

Both owners pleaded guilty to the charges. They are still required to get the permits.

A third case was adjourned until March.

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paystar says:
permits, permits,permits pretty soon you will need a permit to breath air in this city!
2/1/2011 6:22:46 PM
notamused says:
Make them tear the offending structures down.
2/2/2011 6:45:30 AM
Toodleoo Caribou says:
Too right... which reminds me I need to get an OUTDOORS CARD. Just watch, next step will be for an INDOORS CARD too - then they really will have us!
2/2/2011 9:19:44 AM
chbaker says:
Funny.. In a free country, you need a permit (read PERMISSION) to do perfectly lawful acts.

Do you think you own your home?
2/2/2011 11:13:35 AM
carwar says:
People should be able to build whatever the he** they want on the land they own, I don't get it. Money grabbers.
2/2/2011 11:22:48 AM
pieislandrefugee says:
Perhaps they tried to get their permits on Dec 24th, but the offices were closed?

Then perhaps they tried again the following Thursday, but they were closed still, but this time there was a note on the door.

Then perhaps they tried again on Monday after New Years weekend, but the office was still closed.. which was rather odd because every thing else in Canada was open that day.. even the Toronto Stock Exchange.

Perhaps theyve made it such an annoying experience to just apply for a permit with all the running around you have to do, by trying to get Tbay hydro to approve the site plan and what not that maybe, just maybe..

...people just said screw it? Perhaps its time the city eased up its heavy handed approach regarding the process of getting a permit and actually doing something positive for the economy instead of just leeching off it like everyone in those closed city offices.
2/2/2011 12:38:00 PM
tsb says:
Why are you making excuses for people who break the law?
2/3/2011 10:31:34 AM
zzz1 says:
Building Permits are designed to ensure that the buildings meet current code. Current code = saftey for people using the structure. However $1500 is excessive. If the structure was good then fine him the cost of the permit if it wasn't to code fine him the permit but make him bring it up to code. Where does the $1500 end up. hmm... Free budget money
2/2/2011 12:45:42 PM
anvil of crom says:
Glad to see the city is enforcing their bylaws. About time!
I work with a fellow who was in a situation where, he had a neighbour move into an adjacent residentially zoned R-2 property. This fellow then starts a hair salon ( not zoned =illegal).He adds a bunch of 5 tons truckloads of full, which causes flooding in the spring ( and He had NO permit) pulls up a bunch of concrete and leaves it on his property ( defined as trash = bylaw broken) people finally complain.
The cities solution, rezone him!! No fines no removal of trash or soil put down without a permit.
Nope. Rezone him, and let him keep working.
Many alderman were sympathetic to him being a business owner, and so was planning.
My coworker, she moved and so did the another neighbour.
And these people even made a deputation at a city council meeting!!
So much for the small guy.
2/2/2011 6:19:05 PM
The Badger Mountain Hermit says:
Make sure you get down to pay your fines before the office in VickyVille closes at 4:30 pm. Don't go there at noon either, I think they close down for their lunch hour.
2/3/2011 10:59:21 AM
hockeyskates says:
I have to agree with the city on this issue.
2/4/2011 1:40:00 PM
New Democrat says:
A lot of reactionary comments here with few facts.

The purpose of a permit (Read: PERMISSION) is not so the government can needlessly inject bureaucratic red tape into your miserable existence. It is not to rob you of your last few remaining pennies. Nor is it meant to subjugate you under a Communist system.

The purpose of the permit is so that inspectors know what you're building and how you're building it so they know it's been done right and up to the Code (Read: THE LAW!).

And funny how pieislandrefugee, stalwart defender of The Law, the mechanic who single-handedly strikes terror into the hearts of Communist criminals, is defending the violation of The Law.

Now imagine if we didn't have this in place. People would tend to go to the cheapest contractors available and without these building codes, shoddy materials, methods, and workmanship would be employed so the contractors can increase their profit margin.

This is free market capitalism and the lack of regulation the Conservative party loves to champion. So you get the cheapest guys available. There is no regulation. They can build it however they want. Maybe your house will crumble a lot easier. Or maybe it's more susceptible to catching fire.

Maybe they've used carcinogenic materials. Or your wiring just wasn't done right and will eventually cause a fire that will destroy your home and all your possessions.

I bet you're all drooling at this free-market capitalism and screaming collectively at your monitors: "WHERE DO I SIGN UP!?!?!"

The purpose of the permits and the Building Code regulations is that all structures have a uniform minimum standard to which they are built so that they withstand the merciless Forces of Nature and are built safely and reliably.

The moral of the story is that regulation is needed to prevent crumbling and flaming homes from becoming the norm. In jurisdictions with a high risk of a particular natural disaster (BC - Earthquakes), those Building Codes save untold numbers of lives.

But that's okay. You keep screaming for your right to build an unsafe crap shack for you and your family to live in while putting them in immense danger. Free Market Capitalism, baby, even if it means the roof of your home falling on your sleeping children!
2/6/2011 8:33:04 PM
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