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2012-07-23 at 21:00

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By Jeff Labine,
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City council voted to let area deer fend for themselves by having no exceptions to a by-law that prohibits residents from feeding them.

The majority of council voted against an amended at Monday night’s meeting to a city by-law that would have allowed residents to feed deer found only on Mission Island and McKellar Island. Council passed a by-law in May prohibiting any feeding of any wild animal as well as limited bow hunting of deer within the city.

At-Large Coun. Larry Hebert, who put forward the amendment, voted for the change. He had requested that the amendment would allow feeding of deer on private property on the islands with permission from the owner.

Current River Coun. Andrew Foulds said allowing feeding in that area wouldn’t be fair to those who want to feed animals in other parts of the city and added that feeding animals isn’t right.

Giving food to animals can harm them because it causes them suffering when they become depending on those handouts, he said.
Foulds also pointed out that allowing the public to feed deer also put more people at risk of contracting Lyme Disease from the ticks that are on deer as well as other diseases and infections.

“We’ve spent a lot of time talking about deer,” Foulds said. “This council has decided that in some parts of the city it’s OK to shoot (deer) to get the population down and then other places to feed them to keep their population up. I’m not sure our credibility on the wildlife manage file is particularly stellar.”

Council also approved $1.3 million for phase two of the repairs to the Whalen building. That money includes an additional $170,000 to replace the damaged lantern that was struck by lightning in May. An additional $110,000 was also included for additional work with phase 1.

In other business, council also approved three more low-floor, 40-foot diesel transit buses. The contract was awarded to Nova Bus at $1.2 million. The contract also allows the city to purchase six more buses over the next two years.

City Manager Tim Commisso also announced that the city along with Fort William First Nation and the Community Economic Development Commission have picked SNC Lavalin to develop and implement the comprehensive Mining Readiness Strategy and Integrated Economic Development Plan.

SNC Lavalin will work alongside Edward Hoshizaki Development Consulting.


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chezhank says:
There is always an exception to the rules!
When is baiting deer not considered feeding deer,which is allowed under the by-law.
What are the stats on deer vehical collisions in the last while, that are so horrific that it is making news headlines....not!
7/23/2012 9:44:45 PM
The Wolf says:
Lets see. Deer/vehicle collisions are pretty much the same pace as it always has been, about 1ish a day, don't have a site to back those numbers up but that is what it is.

As for the City By-law of not feeding deer in relation to baiting deer for hunting.... well last time I checked by-laws are only allowed to be regulated in the city limits and last I checked hunting is not allowed in the city. The bow hunting of deer in the city is not a hunt but a purge which is 2 totally different events. Also the bow hunters will not be baiting the deer as the numbers are so high it is not necessary.
7/23/2012 11:26:50 PM
chezhank says:
No one seems to be able to substantiate the Deer/vehicle collisions, even the Thunder Bay police who presented the number in the deer report at 1.6/day.

BY-LAW NUMBER 046-2012

"A By-law to permit the hunting of deer by means of bow and arrow in certain areas of the City of Thunder Bay.

4. Hunting Deer:
vii) baits the Deer only during the period from November 1 to December 15 in the year"

7/24/2012 11:00:36 AM
wayne says:
oh 'deer' me, city council took the 'fawn' out of feeding wildlife on mission and mckellar islands. i wonder how many 'bucks' will be captured in fines? that amount of 'doe' should pay for phase 2 of some city project
7/23/2012 9:45:26 PM
millie brendza says:
I agree with not feeding the deer in the city.It makes it dangerous for them and people but the mission island.Does Foulds not know there is a difference.The deer have been fed on the mission for years.The people who go there are careful with their driving and i'm sure they will not get ticks sitting in the car.And as for the cull, let nature take it's course.
7/23/2012 9:49:08 PM
Glyder says:
Let nature take its course? Well you do understand what that is right? Disease and wolves. That's how nature corrects, and it's not pretty.

Feeding deer, anywhere, is just upsetting the balance. We are seeing deer, more and more, and it's just a matter of time before the predators population grows. It won't be long before you see the wolves.

7/24/2012 9:24:38 AM
big joe mufferaw says:
What's good for the goose is sauce for the gander...let's enforce this bylaw for squirrels and pigeons too...what about all the bird feeders???
7/23/2012 9:51:53 PM
SomeGuy says:
Don't be an idiot.
7/24/2012 8:02:26 AM
halfnut says:
this city makes me sick people have been feeding deer on the islands for as long as i have been in thunder bay 35 years .and now they they want to stop it how stupid .

7/23/2012 10:43:08 PM
Joey Joe Joe Jr. Shabadoo says:
why even spend another minute on this?


if they wanna feed the deer,
be prepared to feed the city with your cash from your ticket. the end.
7/24/2012 7:52:51 AM
moonpie says:
I'm willing to break the law just like you do Shammy doo-doo jr when you drive over 50kmh or drop your gum wrapper on the ground. Give it a break.
7/24/2012 11:11:01 AM
jubjub says:
Well Foulds is right about one thing, their credibility on the wildlife manage file is not particularly stellar.
7/24/2012 8:11:26 AM
jimmyboy says:
Well a record must have been set at city hall last council blew thru an agenda that consisted of over 150 pages of information in a record time of 1 hour and 20 minutes spending millions of dollars and hiring even more consultants and every post here is all about feeding deer....really how ridiculous is that I ask.???
7/24/2012 10:54:29 AM
stuck? says:
Here we go again with the generalized "only i am important" schtick.

Increased deer population means more predators. Constant feeding means dependency. More deer means more ticks, and just because you stay in your car to feed the deer doesn't mean that a tick won't crawl through your window OR find it's way into somebody else's body somewhere else.

It's ok though, "I can break the law because I know what I'm doing and I break the law properly" right?
7/24/2012 11:33:50 AM
westfortscum says:
It has been know for centuries not to feed wild animals, not because you may get bitten, but because they will rely on the food you give them. Now the deer are cut off their food supply and need to seek it elsewhere. Why not just relocate them to their natural habitat, if there is any of it left.
7/24/2012 12:05:17 PM
canrebel53 says:
Joey Joe Joe Jr. Shabadoo, there's a By Law about fire works in the city, there's a By Law about riding bikes on the sidewalk, there's a By Law about fire pits in the City Limits. Exactly when was the last time you heard about any of these being Enforced. Enforce the By Laws that they have now instead of wasting time making new ones that no one will Enforce.
7/24/2012 3:25:07 PM
She says:
If the deer have been fed for years since they were fawns you just cant stop feeding them. They probably rely on people now (more so in the winter). Do you want them all to starve to death.
7/24/2012 4:29:48 PM
wayne says:
halfnut, what laws in the past 35 years have helped save lives? and you worry about deer, wildlife?

She, you display ignorance. deer are wildlife and find ways to cope. do you think they will starve to death in their natural habitat versus being fed processed human foods? if they starve to death, it's because of stupid human feeding practices.
7/25/2012 1:12:35 AM
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