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2012-07-31 at NOON

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By Jeff Labine, tbnewswatch.com
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Opposition has mounted against construction of four proposed apartments going up on Ravenwood Avenue.

Council passed a number of zoning bylaw amendments at Monday night’s meeting including one to allow the construction of four four-unit apartments on a currently vacant lot near the Oliver Road Community Centre. The community centre and neighbourhood used the 3,480-square metre area as a green space for years.

The city sent out a notice of the developer’s intentions and received letters and emails objecting the proposal. The main reasons for the halting of the project was because those in opposition felt it would increase traffic flow and parking congestion.

Wilma Wood, president of the Oliver Road Community Centre, opposed the development because she said it was too much in a small space.

“We have a lot of traffic that comes off of Ravenwood that would have to go past those four four-units and into our parking lot,” Wood told council on Monday. “I am very fearful that our parking is going to be inhibited. We need to keep our space for us as parking is always an issue.”

Andre Jolil, who lives in the area, said the area wasn’t designed to handle an apartment like the one being suggested. It would be better for the area if the developer instead built five duplexes that would create 10 units instead of the proposed 16 units, he said.

“(The proposed apartments) would create a shortage of parking space,” Jolil said. “We’re not objecting to development of the property. Eventually it has to happen. The city has to try to intensify the density by maximizing the use of the land but not by doing it in an adverse effect to the existing neighbourhood”

Brook Mcilroy planner Guillaume Neault said when he talk to neighbours in the area they asked if what they were doing was related to the rezoning that took place two years ago but he assured them it wasn’t as it was a different property owner.

He said the four apartments would add to the rental stock units and help Thunder Bay’s vacancy rate, which he added was low.
“There is a need, in our opinion, to stimulate the rental market,” Neault said. “We don’t see a concern for traffic circulation or any imminent traffic impact with additional on street parking. I think all the parking will be accommodated off the street.”

He gave the example of the former Queen Elizabeth School that was turned into rental apartments as a success story similar to what they are proposing.


 

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thunderbaycouncel says:
its sucks but there will be apartments there.
7/31/2012 2:48:32 PM
jimmyboy says:
so much for the people and what they would like to see happen in their neighborhood....city council will do what they want regardless....makes one wonder about the merit of the city sending out a notice of the developer’s intentions....obviously their complaints and concerns were all for not.!
7/31/2012 3:24:11 PM
tannharr says:
Are you kidding me? People in Thunder Bay complain that their taxes are too high, but yet, when the city attempts to create urban density rather than urban sprawl, people oppose it? Get your heads straight!!! By increasing the tax base by utilizing vacant land, the city can increase their tax revenue and eventually begin lowering taxes.
7/31/2012 3:29:19 PM
yqtyqt says:
As part of Planning Act, neighbourhood residents within a certain distance are allowed to comment on the issue and their statements should be taken into consideration.

I've never heard of a non citizen who doesn't live here anymore having any say in the matter. From wherever you live, what can your comments to the mix.

However, I do agree that higher urban density will lead to real tax savings. But I do believe that increased urban density contributes to social problems.

Why not pack them in like sardines in a can. We'll produce more tax revenues for the city to waste.
8/1/2012 11:47:52 AM
lori says:
wow, both sides of mouth. Amazing.

So here is a real positive to increase density which is horribly lacking in this city because of decisions made decades ago, and you, the saviour of the proverbial tax dollar are speaking against it????

Wow.

So I have been right all along.

You just hate Liberals.

Okay.

That explains why there is never one iota of criticism out of your mouth about the Feds.

It is sad really.

This development does nothing to pack people into sardines. But you say it is bad because the city will waste the tax dollars.

Why not save me and many others some reading time.

You tell us what decisions need to be made, where they need to be made, who they are for and how much we should spend.

Then the province of YQT will be the best ever, so good that we will name the country YQT and life will be good for all in the land of OZ.

Is there anyone who can meet your lofty standards oh great one. I hope you really are one of a kind.
8/1/2012 1:54:57 PM
tbay99 says:
People in this city complain about urban sprawl all the time...this is the alternative. Suck it up!
7/31/2012 4:08:21 PM
advocate says:
I know someone who lives around Green Acres school.

When developers wanted to build apartments there, they fought tooth and nail.

In the end, many changed their mind and consider it the best thing ever. The park at the school was loud with kids in the middle of the night. With the apartment, they became homes and the noise went down.
7/31/2012 4:44:28 PM
tsb says:
I lived on that street for two years. The only people to ever use that space was a handful of people that didn't want dog poop in their yards.
7/31/2012 8:05:29 PM
passlake says:
sounds a lot like the people in the junot area that didn't want a new EMS building to ruin their green space.. or rather, their "dog park". (so they cut down a few acres of forest..)
8/1/2012 1:17:58 AM
keiths31 says:
Give me an "N"!

Give me an "I"!

Give me an "M"!

Give me a "B"!

Give me a "Y"!

What's that spell? The attitude of everyone in this city when development happens in their neighbourhood.
8/1/2012 7:27:47 AM
IndustrialContortion says:
With a housing shortage in Thunder Bay, the chance of having 16 new units, gets 16 families out of shelters and off the streets, this is great news!!
8/1/2012 9:57:54 AM
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