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2012-08-28 at MIDNIGHT

Partially opened: City approves conservatory recommendations

By Jeff Labine, tbnewswatch.com
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THUNDER BAY – Reports of falling glass forced the closure of the Centennial Botanical Conservatory in February but city council has decided to re-open a portion facility to the public.

City administration presented a first report to council at Monday night’s meeting. The city closed the conservatory after reports came in that glass had fallen from the roof. Administrations recommended the city re-open the tropical display house to the public, but keep the east and west wings closed.

Instead of waiting to install the net in January, council voted to speed up the process and have the net up as soon as possible.
It will cost the city more than $76, 000 to install the safety net.

Keely Banning, head of Friends of the Thunder Bay Conservatory, attended the meeting and said opening the facility was a step in the right direction.

“It’s just a start,” Banning said. “We would like to see the conservatory up altogether as it was before but we can at least say we can get can a part of it open.”

Banning said those councillors who spoke negatively about the conservatory showed they haven’t even visited the facility. The number of residents who voiced their opinions in favour of keeping the conservatory on the groups Facebook page shows people care about the facility, she said.

Neebing Coun. Linda Rydholm described the conservatory as one of the city’s “best kept little secrets”. She said some people might have forgotten about the conservatory and added there’s great opportunity there.

“If we have the safety measures in place then I think maybe we will be a little bit more assured that the plants there will really stay alive and they are going to get good care,” Rydholm said. “I am concerned about the facility. People may even come this fall as soon as they can get in there. This can kind of be a test for the public.”

But despite the decision to open the facility, some councillors questioned the merit of having the conservatory at all.

Given the age and state of the facility, Red River Coun. Brian McKinnon said he didn’t want another tragedy like the one in Elliot Lake where a number of people died when the local mall collapsed.

“It sounds to me that the place is ready to fall apart,” McKinnon said. “Critical condition is 30 per cent and by the end of 2013 it’s going to be 42 per cent. I don’t want another [Elliot Lake] on our hands here. I’m concerned that the engineers and experts have looked at this building and that it’s not just pieces of glass falling but it’s worse than that.”

Thunder Bay Mayor Keith Hobbs admitted he never went to the conservatory as he wasn’t a fan of looking at flowers and wanted to know if the public even wanted to have the facility open.

“I don’t want to spend $76, 000 to learn in January that we may end up closing it,” Hobbs said. “I’m not saying that’s what’s going to happen but I’m not even aware if there’s a will in the public to keep this facility open."

City manager Tim Commisso said the old and inefficient conservatory couldn’t continue because it was costing the city money and would need to be replaced at some point with a newer facility.

 

 

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jimmyboy says:
Once again Mayor Hobbs steps into it without being on the same page as many in the city...if he were up too speed as he very well should be, he would be aware that there is a large number of individuals who want this facility in the city...he should check out their Facebook page or read the various letters to the editor concerning this facility.!

One can always tell by the way in which city council votes...this time again they voted in favor of the remedial fix...after all as it was stated during city council meeting last evening, it would take up to a year before any final decision was etched in stone concerning this building.!

Maybe HOBBS missed that portion of the meeting...as well it should be evident to him that he does not have the support of his peers on city council...something any effective mayor/leader would have...but not in his case as history has shown.!

Hobbs really needs to work on the connection between what his mind is thinking and what his lips are stating...there is a big disconnect/short circuit between the 2...he is a very poor public speaker too boot.!
8/28/2012 8:05:26 AM
TBDR says:
"WAH WAH WAH I HATE HOBBS WAH WAH HOBBS BAD WAH WAH WAH"... Jimmy have you ever seen the movie Groundhog Day? It seems like every day is exactly the same for you.
8/28/2012 11:33:44 AM
Whodo says:
Linda's right.
Thunder Bay's Best Kept Secret.

I used to go often, years back...I can still smell the earth, wow, it was beautiful, like taking a very affordable vacation! Then I kind of forgot about it...I guess I wasn't the only one.
Our City has dropped the ball once yet again.
There are a number of our Administration and councilors that should take the time to get their feet back to earth. Maybe they would learn to start taking care of what they have.

The most profound thing I have seen this summer is the 'Healing Garden' at the Waterfront, not one living plant exists there.

8/28/2012 10:04:36 AM
gogreenorgohome says:
That net will look pretty in all the wedding photos! (NOT!) Fix it right the first time, rather than waste monies only to move it to the waterfront where it should be.
8/28/2012 4:49:44 PM
jimmyboy says:
Reply to "TBDR"....I now believe your world would not be the same without my various postings on our local news stories....I have tried to comprehend why the editor continues to post your ridiculous comments...which by the way in no way even make any reference to the story line....it sure appears to brighten your day when I make any comment....but those noting the name of HOBBS seem to really turn you on....maybe it is about time that I should look into a restraining order of sorts to prevent you from trolling me....your infatuation with me seems to be getting the better of you today.!
8/28/2012 7:09:12 PM
Hardrawkin says:
This is just the result of years of neglect by the city administration to take care of Public Buildings and Ifastructure.

Had the administration budgeted properly for maintenance we wouldn't be facing this mess.

Having Art galleries, libraries, Recreational Facilities, etc. is what makes a city, a city.

The administration shouldn't shirk there responsibilty by closing them.
8/29/2012 8:12:26 AM
JIMMY2 says:
I understand that this is a historical beautiful spot many have visited, but obviousely the cost is too much, so now we are spending an ample amount on a net, when it's already slated for closure, I think it's a huge waste of our money, if they want to keep it, fix it, if not don't waste our money to make people happy to see it open, as much as I love it, I never see another person there when I have visited, and trust me, I went ALL the time, and donated money, just like the Chippewa zoo, we all have memories, but some times it's not worth it anymoe
8/29/2012 3:14:31 PM
loring says:
the best part was when hobbs said he didnt like to watch flowers grow i thought hebert was going to fall out of his chair with laughter.
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8/29/2012 3:49:23 PM
Urban Guy says:
It seems everyone knows "exactly" what it costs to repair it and how much it would cost to replace it. I must have missed that accurate report somehow. When anyone has those facts the please make comments and not uneducated guesses. There is a exact twin of our conservatory, also built for the centennial in 1967 in Toronto. It is up and running and in fine shape. So why is ours reported to be in such bad shape? Comments made by councilors who have not even been in it like it's falling apart make some of them look foolish. Move it? It is the Centennial Conservatory. That history can not be moved and replaced. 35 years construction background and I'll bet it's cheaper to fix than move it. Worried about glass? They are dozens of plastics that are stronger and more heat efficient.
8/29/2012 6:09:01 PM
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