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2012-09-09 at NOON

Question of reform

By Jeff Labine, tbnewswatch
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Greg Rickford is confident senate reform is en route now that his party has a majority in the House, and as of just recently, an even stronger majority in the Senate.  

Stephen Harper announced the appointment of five senators this week, bringing the total number of seats the Conservatives have in the 105-seat upper House to 62. The Liberal still hold 40 seats while the former Progressive Conservative party and independents hold two seats each. New senators, who have all given their support to reforming the senate, include Diane Bellemare from Quebec, Tobias C. Enverga Jr., Thanh Hai Ngo, who are both from Ontario, Thomas Johnson McInnis from Nova Scotia and Paul E. McIntyre from New Brunswick.

MP Rickford (Con., Kenora) says now that Harper has two majorities, he can work on his promise to reform the senate.

“We sure feel more and more comfortable especially as a majority government and now a majority in the senate that we will be able to do our part of the work,” Rickford said.

“Our platform all along has been to reform the senate. We want to continue to work through the parliamentary system to ensure that the time for senators is more reasonable, more realistic than the current parameters, which are more chaotic sets of rules. That means we need to have continued dialogue with the provinces and persuading the other parties to get on board.”

Rickford said the question of reform has never left the Conservative agenda and added the reason why it hasn’t appeared more in the media was because there were other issues such as the economic crisis that took higher priority.

But MP John Rafferty (NDP,Thunder Bay-Rainy River) said the appointments show Harper going back on his promises.
About eight years ago, Harper promised not to bring in appointed senators but has brought in more than 50 to the upper chamber, he said.

“I guess we know where Harper’s word is worth,” Rafferty said. “He also said an appointed senator is a relic of the 19th century so I guess we know what century he lives in. I don’t think an elected senate does it. All the provinces have gotten rid of their upper chambers over the years. We’re none the worse for ware for democracy in the provinces and I would suggest that the lack of a senate has made the democratic process better.”

The senate was put in place as a sober second though but Rafferty argued it has done nothing to improve democracy in Canada. He said he would prefer if the senate was gone.

Tbnewswatch.com attempted to contact MP Bruce Hyer (Ind., Thunder Bay-Superior North) but was unsuccessful.
In a release to media, Hyer said the new appointees show Harper hasn’t kept his promise.

“Harper has now appointed more senators than all but nine of the most prolific senate-stacking Prime Ministers in Canadian history,” Hyer said in a media release sent Friday.

“The last few rounds of appointments were made on the excuse that Harper needed a majority in the senate to pass legislation for senate elections. He has already had a majority in the senate for months, yet his reform legislation has been going nowhere.”

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waterunderthebridge says:
The NDP is becoming the same old same old party. They have been stonewalling the whole change the Senate process. Rather than helping support changes to the senate to make it triple E -Equal, Elected, Effective - they just want to totally abolish it. Sometimes incremental changes are worth taking rather than trying to get the whole things at once. So stop pulling out an old quote from an old campaign and start help in changing the process - at least Harper has an agreement from all new appointees to resign if there is a move to an elected senate.
9/9/2012 12:23:05 PM
gone for good says:
Don't worry boys. Your turn will come.
9/9/2012 4:53:46 PM
Marak says:
He can't reform it because the Liberals fought him tooth and nail at every turn when he first proposed changes!!! At least now with (finally) a majority in the senate his changes will be able to make it through without being held up in the "upper chamber"!
9/9/2012 7:54:11 PM
keiths31 says:
I'm all for an elected Senate. Harper has tried to bring reform to the Senate, but no other party wants to play nice. And without him appointing more Conservatives to the Senate, any legislation can be held up for the hell of it. He's making the best of a less than ideal situation.
9/9/2012 8:02:21 PM
jimmyboy says:
Maybe just maybe Rafferty is playing his sour grapes card...as well in his saying that Harper is still living in the 19th century...if Rafferty is attempting to be a comedian...he should hire a writer and get some real funny stuff...other than his lame comment.
9/10/2012 12:49:37 AM
baor says:
Sour grapes? YOU should know!!! ha ha ha ha your funny!
9/10/2012 4:41:00 PM
advocate says:
You guys keep talking about the opposition blocking the legislation. Harper has had a majority in the senate for years, and has had a majority in parliament for about a year and a half. The Senate is now 60% Conservative. So don't feed us these stories that he has not had his chance. This is completely going back on what he said he would do.
9/10/2012 8:45:57 AM
ComradeLeninHiawathaZwig says:
Uh, Harper had a majority in the Senate already. He has for awhile. The Liberals have forty seats, the Conservatives have sixty two. There's only three others. Why are people acting like by adding this quintet of cronies he only just now got a majority in the Senate? Last time I checked, sixty two minus five equals fifty seven, which is still a bigger number than forty.
9/10/2012 8:49:10 AM
Dan Dan says:
The NDP is right. Get rid of it altogether - it is nothing but a bastion of cronyism and a tax burden.

I assume that everyone knows about the senator that has been declared mentally incompetent, but still keeps her job? I think that says it all.
9/10/2012 10:23:03 AM
dandy says:
Senators suck!@!
9/10/2012 12:18:07 PM
Delbert Grady says:
The NDP are just crybabies because they have ZERO senators themselves.

As for the year and a half majority government comment... check your calendar. then see how many sitting days parliament has had. It takes years to get things through government, even when fast tracked.

Harper is doing exactly what he promised the voters of this country he would do. Just because a few of you dont understand the timeline of parliamentry procedure thats no need to get upset.

The Liberals fought the Conservatives every step of the way on this (and everything else too) so its taking awhile and more effort than most left wingers can fathom since they are the instant gratification, easy way out type of people.

Dont worry, the red chamber will not stand for much longer.
9/10/2012 2:45:57 PM
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