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2012-09-14 at 15:38

Cost of kindergarten a multi-million venture for boards

Leith Dunick, tbnewswatch.com
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Accommodating full-day kindergarten in Thunder Bay is an expensive task.

Both the Thunder Bay Catholic District School Board and Lakehead Public Schools have spent millions of dollars to equip schools to handle the influx of four- and five-year olds, in order to ensure they meet provincial requirements to offer the classes at all of their schools.

This past summer Lakehead Public Schools retrofitted Hyde Park School to the tune of $1.6 million, one of three schools they added to the full-day kindergarten mix.

The work included new state-of-the-art junior and senior kindergarten classes, exterior landscaping improvements and the addition of a new gymnasium, which will also serve as a multi-purpose room and lunchroom.

St. Bernard School, under the TBCDSB umbrella, is in the midst of a $2-million-plus renovation that will see four new classrooms added to the River Street structure.

St. Bernard principal Nadia Marson said her school's full-day kindergarten program, first introduced in Ontario in 2008, will be open for business in time for the 2013-14 school year.

“We’re going to get four additional, new kindergarten classrooms set up and right now that’s under construction,” Marson said on Friday.

“The new classrooms are going to be an addition to the school, extending from our kindergarten area already.”

With slightly less than 100 kindergarten students attending school now, the only way they can be accommodated is though the use of split classes and having them attend on opposite days.

The new space, though costly – and paid for with provincial funds – is a must if St. Bernard is to join five other TBCDSB facilities who plan to start offering full-day kindergarten next fall, bringing the board's total to 14.

“We really need the proper space for these kids to be coming to school full-day. So it’s really, really important. And new classrooms, with new resources, should be very exciting, not only for your first year coming to school, but for us having this wonderful expansion for September 2013,” Marson said.

She added the school board allowed teachers to work closely with the architect to design spaces that were right for them.

“They’ve sat down and asked for exactly what they wanted so we know the proper spacing for the centres, the proper spacing for the resources to be stored, all of that has been worked very closely (together),” she said.

Across town, at Walsh Street’s Hyde Park School, the excitement is equally high, where students and teachers are delighted with their new-look building, where designers even included bathrooms in the junior and senior kindergarten classrooms.

Vice-principal Elaine Oades said the work will benefit all students at the school, which houses students from junior kindergarten to Grade 3.

“We have three state-of-the-art classrooms with built-in water tables. We have a natural play environment setting that promotes … learning for our students. We’re super excited about our gym,” Oades said.

“We have painted lines on our floor that our kids and teachers are excited about, which will improve our programs. We have basketball nets, so our kids are really feeling like we have a new gym.”

There’s also a new kitchen that allows the school to not only expand its breakfast program, but also provide a day-care space.

“This is also allowing us to have a program for our students from 7 a.m. to 5:30 p.m.," she said.

Randy Haber, manager of maintenance and capital for Lakehead Public Schools, said the construction was fast-paced, completed in about eight weeks.

Haber said full-day kindergarten at Hyde Park School, one of 9 Lakehead Public Schools facilities to offer the provincially mandated program, made the renovations a necessity.

It took plenty of planning, but he thinks students are better off with the finished product.

“What we’ve done is taken two existing classrooms and the playroom and lunch room and created three new state-of-the-art kindergarten rooms,” Haber said.

Both the TBCDSB and LPS were asked to provide cost figures required to ensure schools providing full-day kindergarten adequately met their needs, but those numbers were not immediately available.

 

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Glyder says:
***Gets box of popcorn, sits to watch the fireworks...
9/14/2012 3:58:07 PM
Dontlistentome says:
*****your brain is made of popcorn.

Why not keep your pointless and childish comments to yourself?
9/14/2012 4:33:43 PM
Glyder says:
"*****your brain is made of popcorn.

Why not keep your pointless and childish comments to yourself?"

Isn't that just about the most ironic comment ever?

And, by the way, it was a very entertaining read. :)
9/17/2012 12:58:31 PM
Dontlistentome says:
I can't help but point out that this is not irony. At best, hypocritical (maybe), but not irony. I've seen you use the "grabs box of popcorn and waits for the show" line before. I find it juvenile and annoying when people post like that anywhere, but I digress. I'd suggest that I've never read more than a handful of words posted by you that contribute an actual opinion, so if you in fact are only capable of "grabs box of popcorn and waits for show", do so like expected at the movies, in silence. Oh and by the way, feel free to turn off all electronic devices, they aren't helping you.
9/17/2012 5:41:02 PM
Glyder says:
It doesn't matter what I post, one view or another. Every issue here either has positive or negative commenter's. When other posters here can get over themselves and look at issues fairly and see both sides of the issues, THEN make INFORMED comments, then maybe I will post more than (grabs box of popcorn).

Sorry, but this site is good to read the news (or what tbnewswatch deems news) and fantastic to read the comments. Tell me, truthfully, that you don't come here for the entertainment value. Nothing I could ever say will sway these peoples opinions, because most of them are blinded by their own brightness. The world revolves around them, and they have all the answers.

And, actually, my electronic devices help me just fine. I used my galaxy to find this post. Unless your referring to something else, then I have no idea what your talking about.
9/19/2012 3:32:10 PM
waterunderthebridge says:
On behalf of the taxpayers of Ontario - thankyou Dalton for providing day care for 4 year olds.
9/15/2012 12:14:10 AM
Realitycheck411 says:
In the long run, this will be a win win for Ontario. Students coming out of fulltime JK are writing simple sentences and doing single digit math. The exposure of a 5 day program is leaps and bounds beyond the traditional A/B weeks of on and off again instruction.

Those who complain this is government funded daycare,lack the foresight, to realize we are giving Ontario JK children a methodically developed program that in years to come, other provinces will be looking back and asking, "why didn't we do that?" It really is the shining star of Canadian education.
9/15/2012 12:26:55 AM
Sui Generis says:
"Students coming out of fulltime JK are writing simple sentences and doing single digit math."

Proof?

JK consists of reading stories (the teacher, not the students), playing, colouring, arts and crafts and more playing. That's it. Essentially, this is forced full time daycare. I'm sure some parents are thrilled. I'm not one of them. Thankfully, my kids are well past JK age. Unfortunately, some day I will have to watch my grandchildren be carted off to full time school well before they're physically and emotionally ready to deal with it.
9/15/2012 9:54:09 AM
ComradeLeninHiawathaZwig says:
I had to do it when I was a kid. Some kids aren't ready. Most were able to handle it, in my experience.
9/15/2012 10:03:51 AM
NDP says:
If your kids or grandkids cannot handle being "carted off" to go socialize and play with other kids at age 4, you must have some pretty bad genetics in your family.

The point of preschool is not necessarily to teach the kids academics, but to develop kids socially and prepare them for a life of future interactions with other kids and other people. It, in theory, is supposed to teach manners, acceptable social behaviour, as well as prepare them for more rigorous academics to come.

Yes, one of the perks of the full-day kindergarten is that it acts like a daycare. So what? Do you want your child to receive a better education or not? One can make the argument that in the middle of a recession, this might not have been the best time to implement such an expensive program, but what's done is done. Now that it's here, your only complaint is that your kids are too emotionally stunted to play with other kids at age 4? Or that those preschoolers aren't learning calculus yet?
9/15/2012 12:48:11 PM
humnchuck says:
Have you been in to visit any of the full time programs before rushing to judgement?
9/15/2012 4:20:48 PM
ringettemom says:
Kindergarten is not mandatory.
9/17/2012 7:22:42 AM
RelaxinginMurillo says:
Improvements like landscaping, new gyms and water tables certainly would improve the quality of out little citizen's school life, I would hope that the school boards keep it reasonable. Every added tax load (in addition to energy, food, insurance etc increases) reduces the ability for families to improve home life conditions for these same little citizens.
9/15/2012 5:37:44 AM
sc says:
I wish that full-time JK was available when my children were that age. Consistency and routines are what the youngsters need. The 2-day model is a thing of the past. You'd be amazed at how ready children are for school at this age.
9/15/2012 12:46:55 PM
crazyforweed says:
Couldnt agree more ! my daughter has been in daycare since 18 months and she's now 5 and did her first year of full day JK last yr and it was great for her ! but already bein in daycare for "full days" i think made it easier for her
9/16/2012 8:48:54 AM
city_girl says:
Given how little chance there is for many children to socialize away from their parents now, it's not necessarily a bad thing. Before, parents could let their kids roam the neighborhood, away from constant helicoptering. Now, they are carted in strollers to "activities" once a week, if they are lucky.
Full day JK might start loosing apron strings again- fostering greater independence and better social behaviour (manners, sharing) once more. Children aren't meant to live in a "mom and dad and the dog, meet other kids once a week" bubble- they are social critters. We developed as a tribal species, with a pack of kids running around being active, playing, tussling, and yes learning, as a group. Let's see if it works again! :)
9/16/2012 12:54:27 AM
Curious says:
I don't think the public should have to pay for babysitting services for these children. Let the parents pay for it themselves - we had to when our kids were young.
Kids are forced to grow up too fast now. They don't know how to be kids anymore. Their entire lives are a schedule and all sports etc are organized for them. They don't even fight their own battles anymore - if there is an argument between kids - the parents duke it out for them! we are raising robots - not kids. let them stay home with parents or babysitters and and let them play outside and learn life lessons. Why bother with this when the Catholic Board doesn't even correct spelling. My granddaughter got perfect on her story she wrote, not one mention from the teacher about 17 spelling mistakes and the teacher said "oh, that isn't important"! Go figure!
9/16/2012 8:42:38 AM
random says:
Well, i've said it before on here: for years my tax dollars have been paying to have low income people have access to free or subsidized day care, dental etc, while my family pays through the nose for it. We have two incomes in our family to pay the bills, while also paying the bills for others, and you have the nerve to say "let the parents pay for it themselves". I already DO pay for it through taxes. Lots of taxes. Why is it people who work and make a decent living always have to get the shaft? If my tax dollars have to pay for others to have free or subsidized daycare, then they can also pay for my family as well. NDP and city_girl make excellent points in their posts regarding the benifets of full time kd...it's not just about people saving money via no daycare costs, which, btw, are ridiculas now.
9/16/2012 12:41:36 PM
yqtyqt says:
Have you ever thought that you pay too much in taxes because the various levels of government waste too much money on frivolous & expensive projects.

One of the projects that will gobble up plenty of expensive tax dollars will be all day kindegarten. We all know that this is another one of the McGuinty govts election promises that it needed for him to get a major minority, or whatever he calls it.

I think you should get in touch with govts at all levels and start putting pressure on them in terms of fiscal responsiblity. Unfortunately, I see no end to the need for two income households just to pay the taxes and utitility bills.

But for heavens sake, think before you vote. And identify the spin-doctors who want to spend more of your hard earned tax money. Ask yourself who is paying for these vote grabbing projects and can I, and my family afford these glitzy things. They don't come for free.
9/16/2012 4:31:05 PM
blue says:
“We have painted lines on our floor that our kids and teachers are excited about, which will improve our programs" What's next bike lanes. Yet another waste of tax payer money.
9/16/2012 10:49:19 PM
SomeGuy says:
If all government services where a la carte we would be paying a lot more. Sometimes you have to pay for stuff you don't use.
9/16/2012 11:16:24 PM
bttnk says:
The same old crew of complainers is out in full force. What could possibly be wrong with having full time schooling for 4 year olds? Having just been through this with my own kids, I can say without a doubt it is indeed an enormous boost for social interaction, independence, etc. I'm sick of people in this city complaining at every opportunity. Learn to embrace change and see the positive aspects of new program.
9/17/2012 10:08:35 AM
kappa says:
WoW, people complaining about little kids going to school, this city is full of class!! And people wonder why there are so many delinquents out there.
9/17/2012 11:48:49 AM
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