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2012-09-21 at NOON

Host charged after party gets out of control

By tbnewswatch.com
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THUNDER BAY -- A 20-year-old who organized a massive party in August now has a court date.

The Thunder Bay Police Service concluded its investigation into a Aug. 31 party that took place at a Hacquoil Road home.

Police say just after midnight, officers responded to complaints about the party.

Area residents took issue with the noise, congested roadways, open liquor and intoxicated youths.

Officers on the scene say rocks were thrown at them when they arrived, and that the crowd of partygoers began to chant profanity.

Police say 23 officers were needed to bring the situation under control.

The 20-year-old who is accused of hosting the party has been charged with mischief and is expected to appear in court on Oct. 23. 

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sillygoose says:
WHAT A CROCK!
9/21/2012 12:53:17 PM
Glyder says:
Well, what do you think the kid should be charged with?
9/21/2012 3:46:33 PM
chezhank says:
If the young fellow had paid off the constabulary with "paid duty" for the event this would be a non issue!
9/21/2012 1:19:55 PM
vimeo says:
It's interesting how stories like these that have court dates attached to them allow for comments, while other topics are censored. It would seem the trivial nature of these news like stories make it while serious, thought provoking and sensitive issues are closed topics.

C'mon guys, you have the right to moderate the comments.
9/21/2012 4:04:52 PM
random says:
That's easy to explain away:
This is a story where you can freely slam the police, which is your right, and they can't respond or defend themselves. Easy.
The other recent stories are locked, because the public opinion was going against what was being reported, and you can't have that! Don't wanna offend people too easily offended, right?
I sometimes wonder why this site even allows comments at all, or how they choose what can be commented on and what can't, or what gets posted. Must be "mood" driven.
Chezhank, glad to see you still never miss a chance to display your sour grapes and take a dig at police. I get the impression you think there is something wrong with police getting paid and taxed for extra duties. Doesn't come out of the city coffers you know.
Everyone does side jobs, difference is that the police pay taxes on it, while no one else does.
9/22/2012 5:50:00 PM
chezhank says:
What dig,it is a fact.
Pay off the police with "paid duty" and have them at the party and no problem!
What other city departments pay for paid duty from city coffers.
The one that comes to mind is the provincial sales tax that goes to city coffers and used to pay for paid duty at the bus terminals.
How about patrols in some of the city residences?
"You can fool some of the people all of the time, and all of the people some of the
time, but you can not fool all of the people all of the time."
9/23/2012 1:33:54 PM
Tiredofit says:
The city does not pay for it. If you want duty officers/security for events such as this or any other you are obligated to pay and it's in cash and not cheap! Simply call the station for details. I've utilized them in the past for a variety of events
9/23/2012 3:45:17 PM
random says:
Well, you're fooled then.
The city hall detail, as far as I know, is funded provincially, not locally.
Almost all the other paid duties are usually when it is mandated police attend, such as traffic details parades etc, not something they insist on.
You make it sound so bad with your "pay off", like it is corruption. Give me a break.
Your argument is weak, and you didn't acknowledge the fact that they pay taxes on those extra duty incomes, unlike every other type of side job performed everywhere.
I would respect your opinions more if you didn't constantly make it out like the police run a racket.
Lastly, you can hire private security if you like for those big parties, no law against it. The benefit to having police attend I guess is so that laws can be enforced, people protected.
Want more police presence? Petition whoever you need to to make it so they no longer have to babysit all the sloped brows around who need their hands held.
9/23/2012 4:27:25 PM
rootbear says:
Lesson learned, you live by the sword and you die by the sword. This happened to me back in the 80's. A simple house party with friends got out of control. Had bodies everywhere, front yard, back yard, closets, you name it. It wasn't until the next day cleaning up, I found a piece of paper with address's on it. One of them were mine. Places to go and party no doubt. That was the last of that! For weekends I had to turn the lights out and close the curtains and watched the parade of cars cruise by after the bar. I had been responsible for this. Maybe that kid will learn his lesson too. Someone actually stole my kitten and almost took my tv!
9/21/2012 4:50:05 PM
pagirl says:
Good. Sounds like this was a near-riot and could have gotten a lot worse, quickly. I heard every city police and OPP officer on duty at the time were there trying to diffuse the situation. Imagine being this kid's neighbour? Sounds like fun...
9/21/2012 8:38:47 PM
tsb says:
It sounds like this kid was going out of his way to avoid being an inconvenience to his neighbours...
9/22/2012 12:30:53 PM
Mona MintyMouth says:
Oh comeon now, let the kids be kids!
9/21/2012 9:32:32 PM
The Badger Mountain Hermit says:
Bar owners should be held responsible for subsequent mayhem resulting from the "partying" at their "clubs".
9/22/2012 7:45:26 AM
Nunyabeeezwax says:
LOL....."let kids be kids?" I'm pretty sure that there were over 500 kids here and to top it off they were throwing rocks and chanting profanity. Would love to see how your children turn out it you think that is appropriate ?
9/22/2012 9:54:44 AM
Tom Sanderson says:
As a host to a party you are liable for all your guest regardless of how stupid they are. There is no way the host could monitor that many people. Good thing the police were called in. Nobody got killed or hurt and the host isn't living a nightmare because the police rescued his ass.
We were all young and survived many stupid events but look back and say to ourselves "luck, pure luck".
9/22/2012 12:29:38 PM
APril20th says:
watch and see how big the parties get next summer. all you geriatric, miserable, hypocrites need to remove your hearing aids, sit down, and realize you cant control it. this is not the same world that you grew up in. does anyone remember what happened when authority figures took away alcohol? i wonder how many people in our proud town of thunder bay smoke weed? the kid threw a party and too many people came. the end. police didnt bust a meth lab, or take out a drug cartel.
9/22/2012 12:39:18 PM
moonpie says:
Spoken like a true idiot who thinks his/her generation are the first to throw a party. There's a reason your parents laugh when you act like you know it all; they probably did the same thing when they were your age. They remember how they "knew it all" back then too.
9/22/2012 2:02:27 PM
pagirl says:
"This is not the same world you grew up in."

Bahaha!! Not as much has changed over the past 20, 30, 40 years as you think. Kids are just more spoiled, entitled and disrespectful towards everyone and everything. Teens always drank and threw parties. I heard some of these 1,000 guests were jumping on the neighbours' houses....wait until someday you have to have your neighbours' brats all over your yard wrecking things and see how "geriatric" you feel about it.
9/22/2012 3:53:51 PM
ComradeLeninHiawathaZwig says:
"Kids are just more spoiled, entitled and disrespectful towards everyone and everything"

Says every old person since Socrates. Here's his quote, “Our youth now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for their elders and love chatter in place of exercise; they no longer rise when elders enter the room; they contradict their parents, chatter before company; gobble up their food and tyrannize their teachers.”

I'm sure your parents said exactly the same thing about you, and theirs about them. Aging does horrible things to people's minds.
9/22/2012 5:01:16 PM
kylie says:
lol - so so true and thanks for saying the obvious. seems the old folks r getting so weird with any thing fun. oh my god ur having aparty ohhh noooo!

get over it codgers we will soon run things.
9/22/2012 4:41:48 PM
RealityCzech says:
Wow. What a ridiculous diatribe... what... you think having a party is your right? You can have a party... but when it gets out of hand like this one obviously did, and escalates beyond a simple house part, then there are going to be repercussions.

Cute screen name by the way. ooooo 4:20.
9/22/2012 5:11:55 PM
tbayfinn says:
Give me a break idiot, you think you are the first generation of teens to have house parties? At least most parties before this generation didn't try to start a riot when the cops arrived. You think you are entitled to destroy the property of others and try to hurt police officers? Anyone who assaults a cop needs to spend some time in jail. Then see how a record helps you get a job once you get out innto the real world.
9/23/2012 9:42:35 AM
dee16 says:
Get over it, all you old folks are just jealous that you never had the opportunity to experience a party like this when you were kids. Heck! YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN MORE THAN WELCOME TO GO!
9/22/2012 8:20:41 PM
et says:
a little community service wouldn't hurt! Someone could of got hurt or worse killed! This isn't a movie like "Project X"
9/22/2012 9:10:33 PM
woofwoof says:
I can't believe that some of think this is appropiate behaviour. It was not accetable 30 years ago nor is it now.You would be the first to take action if something happened to your child or property. I guess in your little world it is ok as long as it is not in your neighbourhood.Who knows what would of happeded if the police did not break this up.
9/23/2012 6:40:35 AM
Tom Sanderson says:
Lol.
Party on! If stupidity was painful most young people would need a morphine drip.
When someone older tells you something, they are speaking from experience. They are not talking down to you, they are giving you a heads up. But, most of you don't pay attention to anything more than your cell phone. Get over the 'old thing' it is going to happen to you too. Your butterfly tattoo is going to morph into a moth, your pecks will fall and turn into man boobs! You'll grow up, get older some day and spread the same message. Just Sayin!
9/23/2012 1:45:54 PM
trent says:
All you old folks complaining have maybe forgotten what it's like to be in high school. I'm sure most of the kids that went had a fun night they will never forget. The property damage was certainly unwarranted, but other than that these kids weren't doing anything that you old folks don't do yourselves.
The difference is you do it at the bars, a shag, or your camp.
9/23/2012 2:04:34 PM
Sui Generis says:
"Officers on the scene say rocks were thrown at them when they arrived, and that the crowd of partygoers began to chant profanity."

This is normal behaviour for high school kids?
9/23/2012 5:01:51 PM
ComradeLeninHiawathaZwig says:
When I was in high school, it was generally pudding and other food items that were thrown, but these were drunk high schoolers so I'd give a 'yes ma'am' to that. I've seen adults do worse. Not saying the behaviour is excusable, but given they were probably blitzed out of their minds, I highly doubt much thought was given to what they did. Either way, I bet the next party the host has will be rather tame. Leave it to Beaver level.
9/23/2012 11:22:23 PM
trent says:
Well, I don't think I ever remember people throwing rocks at police in my day, but there certainly were a lot of profanity chants in their direction when they showed up at parties. No one likes having to watch their beer get dumped out all over the ground.
9/23/2012 11:59:12 PM
Sui Generis says:
Yes, we all partied. No, we did not throw items at the police or start a riot when the party was busted. Generally, when the cops showed up, we ran for the hills.

My teen years weren't centuries ago, and I remember them quite well. This was not a normal 'kids will be kids' party. This may have started as a party, but it escalated out of control quickly, requiring 23 police to quell it. They destroyed property, left tons of garbage in their wake, disturbed all neighbours within miles, blocked roads, etc. And the fact that people are making excuses for these kids is disgusting.
9/24/2012 10:37:17 AM
glock9 says:
Under the Liquor Licence Act, anyone convicted of supplying alcohol to a minor faces a fine of up to $200,000

How'd they let that one slide when there was so many underage drinkers there ?
9/23/2012 2:59:34 PM
chezhank says:
B.Y.O.B.
9/23/2012 3:04:50 PM
dee16 says:
*shakes cane* YOU DARN KIDS!
9/23/2012 9:55:08 PM
reignmaker says:
They want to have huge parties where stuff gets destroyed? Fine, bring out the tear gas and ASPs. Treat them like the criminals they are. Idiots saying that "old folks" are mad because they are the future are right. If by old folks you mean people with any intelligence who can see the terrible future we will live in. Yeah the Children are the future. Too bad half can't tie their shoes, let alone run the rest of their lives or society.
9/24/2012 9:35:22 AM
kylie says:
ummmm... if its to loud ur to old!
9/24/2012 1:46:46 PM
thewarden says:
Come on Thunder Bay... The parties have been going on out there for years. It was handled perfectly by police and OPP. You will never be able to stop highschool kids from partying. It has always happened and always will. Time to worry about more important things in this city. Lets arrest the S*B who approved the sewer system in Thunder Bay and allowed the "excreta" to flow downhill! If you were to fine all the kids for underage drinking, don't you think it would have caused more of a problem? 1000 kids all getting fines? If you're complaining about our taxes going to policing right now, then what would happen after court fees, 100 tickets, and our time with that situation. Kids can get reckless at that age with a little liquid courage, so all of the rioting that did happen was expected, or should have been. If anything, everyone here should stop complaining and be proud of the way the police, and the locals, handled the situation at hand. Grow up and move on. It's over.
9/24/2012 9:48:59 AM
hubbabubba says:
What do geriatic and elderly people have to do? This is an issue of teens not respecting other people. Big party or not, this was out of control. The morals and values are taken from the present day society where they seem to think anything goes. Show some respect. There are lots of people that live down Hacquoil Road, did you show respect for your neighbours? Don't think so. Respect your elders kids...
9/24/2012 10:03:38 AM
farmgal says:
I guess I am one of the geriatrics but it is a sad state of affairs when the only way kids think of to have fun is to have a huge party, get drunk and destroy property then throw rocks and garbage at police that are trying to make them obey the law.
9/24/2012 12:35:10 PM
fedhead says:
well, most of the large parties of the past were located at isolated areas where neighbourhoods and private property were not affected much-people should be held accountable for their actions-younger folks, this is called consequence and ownership which mature and intelligent people have-want to party, yell, scream, threaten, damage, etc. then there is a consequence for that behaviour---judging from the comments, there are some outstanding parents out there as shown by their childrens comments-yes, children because they are so immature-and yes, elders have the knowledge because they have survived to attain their age, something a lot of you folks might not attain without some maturity
and thewarden--bang bang to you
9/24/2012 2:23:41 PM
kylie says:
oh and u know what else gramps?? ->

i wuz there and it wasnt as bad as u think. u know what is real bad behavour? ->

old guys and ur hockey riots!!!
at least we had a reason
9/24/2012 5:40:18 PM
stuck? says:
Just because you were there, it's not as bad as the majority of people think?

Whew, glad we got that figured out...

Also pretty sure it was a lot of young people rioting in the hockey riots.

Not even 30 yet myself but there's no excuse for the behaviour and attitude that the younger generation gives to other people, regardless of age.

Young, old, man, woman, black, white, orange, purple, canadian, mexican, american, doesn't matter. The amount of respect coming from the younger generation is piss poor.

Kids own their parents to the point that they give them anything they want, because they don't want them upset and crying about fair play or the fact that mommy or daddy slapped their butts with a wooden spoon.

I used to fear the wooden spoon. I used to fear my parents. Parents are NOT your friends. They are your caregivers.

Mouth off to and fight your friends not the people who gave you food and shelter.
9/25/2012 1:00:56 PM
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