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2012-10-05 at NOON

Supporters continue fight for long-term care facility

By Jeff Labine, tbnewswatch.com
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The curtain has yet to fall on the Rivera interim long-term care facility.

The 65-bed long-term care home is scheduled to close on Oct. 31 but proponents of the facility say the fight isn’t over. Members of the Thunder Bay Health Coalition went before city council to gather support and held a small demonstration outside the facility Friday to raise awareness to the public.
 

Evelina Pan, co-chair of the Health Coalition, said it doesn’t make sense to close Rivera when the city is already losing 28 beds at the Lakehead Psychiatric Hospital Geriatric Unit.

The Northwestern Local Health Integration Network has the longest overall median wait times for placement compared to other regions in Ontario. Wait times range from 181 days in the Northwest region to 114 days for the Northeast region and 98 for North Simcoe Muskoka.

Pan said if they want to keep Rivera then the community has to step up and help them fight.

“It’s easy enough to keep them open,” Pan said. "It’s only interim if they want it to be. (The Thunder Bay Regional Health Sciences Centre) could easily fill the 65 beds. The government’s own data shows wait times for long-term care in the Northwest LHIN are more than double than the provincial average. The public has to stand up to stop the cuts.”

Council invited representatives from the LHINs to come and speak at a meeting but Jules Tupker, who works at the Long-Term Care Family Council Support Group, said they haven’t heard anything about that yet.

“I would have though the LHINs would have responded to council or at least made some public notification of what’s going on and they haven’t,” Tupker said.

“What sways policies is public outcry and that’s what we’re hoping. We hope our concerns gets the public up in arms.”

Bill Joblin, Thunder Bay Representative, SEIU Local 1 Canada, said eliminating those beds isn’t going to help the community and will only create more gridlock at the hospital.
 

 

 

 

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jimmyboy says:
Fight the good fight...is a good thing...go down swinging...even though Thunder Bay has clearly known we were severely lagging behind in this department since 2003....not all that much has really changed....because the aging population has grown exponentially since 2003 and has not been calculated into the long term care beds presently under construction...so in the end we are still putting our elderly people and their families behind the 8 ball.
10/5/2012 2:19:27 PM
thunderbaycouncel says:
re-open the LPH! there is room for almost 1000 people there! people have no clue whats going to happen to the city of thunder bay if something doesnt happen soon!
10/5/2012 3:57:35 PM
CJ says:
It's not closed. Hahaha.
10/5/2012 10:53:45 PM
tsb says:
Yeah, our venerable elders can live in the looney bin! It's such an appropriate setting for people who are dealing with health issues related to ageing!
10/5/2012 8:19:27 PM
tbabij says:
The Long Term Care home needs to stay open! Keep fighting! Even though there is such a large waiting list, the whole situation will become even worse. Bob Joblin's comment "eliminating those beds isn’t going to help the community and will only create more gridlock at the hospital" is so accurate! Taking up more beds at the hospital will eliminate room for those in need for hospital care. It will also create the need of loved ones to be moved to other areas when 24 care and supervision (which is provided by the Long Term Care Facility) becomes inaccessible. The Community does need to become as aware as possible of that damages this could cause in order to increase the chance of keeping it open! Keep fighting this! I will for sure be bringing this to the attention of many!
10/5/2012 8:33:13 PM
InTheKnow says:
I apologize, but you are incorrect. There have been dozens of beds empty at Interim for over a year prior to deciding to close. The same is true of Lakehead Manor.

The issue is the province changed the rules so a person waiting for Long Term Care placement cannot be forced to take any placement and can wait forever in hospital awaiting their first choice.

Interim is old, people didn't like it. The care was exceptional, staff were wonderful, but the bricks and paint turned people away.
10/6/2012 5:02:06 PM
InTheKnow says:
Speaking as someone who has been involved in the work between transferring patients from hospital to long-term care; it is much more difficult thanks to the Provincial Government to 'fill the beds'. Legislation now allows a patient to wait in the hospital until their first choice for placement is available, and no-one was willing to go to Interim.

The building was shut down when the new Pinewood Court (an amazing LTC facility) was built, but the LHIN approached Rivera to keep it running for 5 years knowing it was an old and failed the requirements on an Interim basis. Almost 7 years later they demanded that it be brought up to current standards when it is completely impossible for the building. Rivera is a for-profit company and were haemorrhaging money for years on this place.

I feel awful that the employees and patients that are here are being displaced, but the reality is that if the Province dozen't deal with real issues with funding to LTC this is just the tip of the iceber
10/5/2012 11:20:29 PM
The Badger Mountain Hermit says:
They can all move into that new condo development on the waterfront where they spent all that borrowed money that they were supposed to spend on Homes.
10/6/2012 10:34:49 AM
advocate says:
What bothers me most is the lies being perpetuated by this group. I am very disappointed by those involved for not stepping forth and providing the true facts to the story.

The fact is, that building is falling apart. It has a decent chance of failure in the winter. Do you really want your loved ones being exposed to that?

But there is so much to this story not being told. So many failures.
10/6/2012 2:09:17 PM
InTheKnow says:
And that's what I was attempting to outline. The changes to the funding structure make it so if even a single bed is unfilled at a home the size of Interim they do not get the highest level of funding. Rivera has been running the home several years past what they originally agreed to at a significant loss. When the province backtracked on their rules to have to take the first available bed pending their first three choices becoming available it was a short time before this would happen. No one involved was really surprised.
10/6/2012 5:10:41 PM
hadenough says:
Thanks for filling in the gaps.
10/8/2012 9:44:06 AM
trevor99 says:
there is only one reason for the mess now happening to seniors in our city. The city council of Thunder bay who walked away from supporting seniors here.

They borrowed 44 million to build a new senior's home, changed their minds and used over half of it at Marina Park.

That is where the anger should be focused, on the elected officials of this city who abandoned our seniors. It is apparent they could care less about the group of people who built this city.

10/9/2012 10:43:18 AM
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