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2012-10-07 at NOON

Lonely but free

By Jeff Labine, tbnewswatch.com
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Being independent in Canada’s House of Commons can be a lonely endeavor.


But for the few MPs who choose independence, they say it is a small price to pay for the complete freedom they are awarded from being unrepresented by an official political party.

There are only two independent members currently sitting in the House. Those partyless MPs include Peter Goldring (Ind., Edmonton East) and Bruce Hyer (Ind., Thunder Bay – Superior North).

Hyer left the NDP after he and fellow Thunder Bay MP John Rafferty (NDP, Thunder Bay – Rainy River) were punished for voting against the party line regarding the gun registry. While he didn’t immediately make his exit from the NDP after \that incident, the MP says it was around that point he realized he had enough with party politics.

“I’m free to think, free to speak, free to vote and I feel like I can 100 per cent work for my constituents,” Hyer says. “My MP budget is exactly the same. It’s inadequate, but many rural MPs have inadequate budgets because they don’t give us very much money for having huge ridings.

“If I run as an independent in the next election, I’m told I can’t fundraise ahead of time. I have to wait until I am officially a candidate and then I can. Of course the riding associations for the other parties can fundraise all the time.”

Being independent means there are more challenges. That’s the result of a system that caters to political parties, he says.

There’s no help when it comes to researching a topic so it’s all on Hyer and his staff to get the job done.

Instead, the House of Commons is set up to meet the needs and wants of the political parties, he says. 

Another problem Hyer has with the system is that national leaders can sign candidates nomination papers instead of the riding association. He says this causes a lot of tribalism within the party and makes it difficult for MPs to speak out against their leaders over fears they may not be allowed to run in the next election.

“It’s really sad,” Hyer says. “I didn’t realize when I went in how tribal the three main parties really were. I guess I was a little naïve to think my primary function would be to work for my constituents and keep my promises.”

On the plus side, Hyer can be a critic of whatever he wants and speak to the media without having to wait for permission.

“A number of people have asked me when am I going to start the Independent party and get 11 more MPs elected for changed,” he says. “Then we would have official party status.”

Goldring, who is listed as an independent conservative, says he left his party following a dispute with an officer over a refusal to take a breathalyzer test. While that situation is before the courts, he says he didn’t want there to be an implication to his caucus.

He says he would be welcomed back into the caucus if the situation ends positively, which he believes it will.

But during his time away from the party, he says he’s not finding it difficult to stand on his own.

“There’s some disappointments like we can’t sit on committees and get involved in that aspect, but because I am outside the caucus I can talk a lot more openly about specific issues,” Goldring says.

“You have more freedom. You have severe restrictions when you’re in government. Particularly the Conservative government, they really control the media. They don’t like it when you going to the media when there’s various ministers involved. It’s self-preservation I guess you could say. They really don’t want someone making a mistake to the media.”

Goldring says there’s so few independents because it’s difficult to be elected when most voters go with name recognition and party familiarity.

When the next election comes around, Goldring says he won’t be running again because he will be 70-years-old and the riding he has been in will be changing.

He says it’s someone else’s turn to be the areas MP.

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jimmyboy says:
Please, please Bruce...spare us the drama.!
10/7/2012 12:58:40 PM
loudmouth101 says:
You're free to do a lot of things,including resign. Absolutely did not vote for you. You happened to be he NDP's party candidate. Resign now. If anyone wants you,they will vote for you. Give the voters back a choice. If you don't, I can only assume "in my opinion" that you are only about the money!
10/7/2012 1:06:15 PM
Tiredofit says:
I've known Bruce for a long time, didn't vote for him personally, however I can definitely state he's not in this for the money and when he left the party it was because they tried to control his vote. He may be a lot of things according to his critics but he definitely stands up for his constituents.

I doubt he'll get re-elected as an independent and he is painfully aware of it. But I bet he sleeps at night with a clear mind unlike most.

A politician is voted to represent the people, when they are controlled by the party whip, they are not doing what they were elected to do..... REPRESENT
10/8/2012 9:27:23 AM
realitycheck411 says:
Hyer says: "...I guess I was a little naïve to think my primary function would be to work for my constituents and keep my promises.”

This is an interesting comment. The people of Thunder Bay voted for an NDP candidate/minister to represent them in Ottawa. They did not for an independent who lacked the foresight to understand how the political arena at Parliament worked. The idea of "whipping" MP's into voting one way or another is so that majority (and/or a combination of minority parties) can pass legislation. A House of Commons filled with independent candidates, with those members holding to his/her own agenda, only creates political deadlock. This is how the term coalition government came to be. To allow a number of minority parties to join together to form a majority so that they can propose and pass legislation.

I do applaud Bruce Hyer for being genuine to the people of Thunder Bay. Yet, his independence and disdain of day-to-day politics is not what we voted for.
10/7/2012 1:35:36 PM
SadButTrue says:
While I happen to agree with your concept at the time of voting for the ndp I was also voting in favour of Jack Layton. The current NDP leader does not hold a candle to that man and I would not have given a vote for the NDP through Bruce or any other candidate. I give bruce the credit of separating from that party as they'd do not seem to have the same values as previously held. For that reason I give my votes blessing to him to hold till the next election as the other candidates on the last ballot I still feel are less of a choice than Bruce is independently. During the next period of time I hope the NDP to regain their composure and get back to the party jack was leading them to be. At that point he can rejoin and or fight their new nominee on the ballot.
10/7/2012 7:56:10 PM
big joe mufferaw says:
With all the work one can't do (such as committees), is it possible that Mr. Hyer is unable to fully represent his constituency with the same efficacy he might if he worked with the party? So many of his constituents elected him because he represented the philosophical stance of the New Democratic Party. Quite clearly, we didn't elect him to represent his own personal agenda or the agenda of constituents who voted for other stances...and yet, that is what he is doing. In the next election, NDP supporters will be supporting the NDP candidate. I wonder if Mr. Hyer will want back in at that point. He seems to have mastered the art of political expediency and forgotten the hard work of loyalty.
10/7/2012 1:52:35 PM
combatwombat says:
Independant thinkers here in Tbay!! Well its a lost cause.
Remember "miami joe" Commuzzi? As an opponent of same-sex marriage, resigned from cabinet in 2005, so that he could oppose Bill C-38.( which would pass with or without his vote)
"Father joe of the cloth", decided his religious views were now more important then representing his electorate!
When questioned on this stance he also stated he had informally "polled" ( sic) the consituency and they supported him.
Really?
Gave up all representation of his consituency for personal views. Later he decided not to seek reelection...DUHHH.
BUT the end of this story is not over, now he picks up a fat cheque in ...you may have guessed it lush Miami.
10/7/2012 4:44:07 PM
joewho06 says:
Hyer quotes “I’m free to think, free to speak, free to vote"
Bruce you aren't free at $157,731 per year, well hang on, YOU are a Freeloader.
10/7/2012 5:26:13 PM
tsb says:
We should stop having elections and simply give absolute power to a single person.
10/7/2012 7:05:56 PM
ComradeLeninHiawathaZwig says:
Give the CPC a while. They're working on it.
10/8/2012 2:30:00 PM
barry medawin says:
Absolutely correct sir! In many parts of the world communism works because it destroys the very rich and brings up the lower classes. This needs to be done in Thunder Bay. Right now the city is basically 90% slums and 10% McMansions.

10/9/2012 10:08:59 AM
stumped says:
Someone help me figure this out.
Why is Mr. Hyer still a news item?
An independent in the house of commons is about as useful as a security system at Mac's.
(see what I did there? clever!)

No really, why are we still reporting about this? Mr. Hyer is yesterday's news.
10/7/2012 9:13:58 PM
CGA says:
The same loud mouths would be yapping if he responded to every beck and call by NDP thugs will do and say absolutely anything to get elected. It doesn't matter if their books make no logical sense, you either stick with the party (regardless of how those who vote for you feel) , so a small minority can take hold in Ottawa. Yeah, no thanks.

I am not a fan of Hyer these days but for Christ sake, give the guy some some respect. The NDP "our way or the highway" attitude is right up there with Harpers. Good job!
10/7/2012 10:45:26 PM
mercy mercy me says:
blah, blah, blah, Brucie....i'm still waiting for the explanation/spin for all expense paid trip to the notorious Guatemalan mine site you were provided on Goldcorp's dime, unethical any way you look at it, you are still a weasel

10/8/2012 3:25:49 AM
westfortscum says:
You sir are why I don't vote, but the reason you turned independent is the reason i would vote again. If all MPP's did the same, we would have a fair system for all, instead of having these parties running the country into the ground again and again. We need a change and independent is that change. Political parties are only looking out for there top financial supporters, then they help out there friends. The public are the last the political parties are looking out for. Good for you Hyer.
10/8/2012 8:28:50 AM
dozerman says:
Who really cares? In my opinion, ALL politicans are only in it for themselves....we are just as stupid for enabling them.
10/8/2012 11:54:24 AM
zaphirine says:
he shud just retire as he was voted in to b in the party he was in , he wasn't voted in to b a independent , come on Bruce, if u didn't like who u worked for or didn't like there ideas , change them with the voters standing behind u that voted , dont quit and go on ur own when u were voted as that ,i think thats B.S. u went independent... and so does alot of voters that were behind u
10/9/2012 9:23:57 AM
daxxis says:
@westfortscum:
By not voting, you really give up your right to complain. Also, by not voting, you reinforce the system we have in place. It's how a political party can win a majority with less than 40% of the popular vote, which amounts to a MUCH smaller percentage of all Canadians.
As for Bruce, the only thing I can say is that Bruce loves this area of the country and strives to do right by it as best he can. I still support him.
10/9/2012 12:28:38 PM
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