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2012-10-16 at 10:03

Stepped down

By Jodi Lundmark, tbnewswatch.com
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THUNDER BAY --  Keith Hobbs doesn’t want to be handcuffed in helping make Thunder Bay safe.

The mayor announced he’s stepping down from the Thunder Bay Police Services Board Tuesday morning citing his past career in policing has caused frequent conflict of interest issues over the past two years.

Issues arose at Hobbs’ second police services board meeting when he suggested a suspended officer return to work instead of collecting pay while off the job. This caused the police services board to request an investigation by the Ontario Civilian Police Commission.

“For seven months I was off the board while they investigated me,” Hobbs said in a phone interview Tuesday morning.

The suspended officer eventually returned to work with all charges against him dropped, but the OCPC laid restrictions on Hobbs that he had to declare conflict on any discipline issues with officers or bargaining issues.

“It came to the point at meetings that I was out of the room more than I was in,” he said, adding he was also reprimanded by the board when he made suggestions about how the police chief should handle the rash of convenience store robberies in the city.

“I was being treated as a police services board member first and as mayor second and I’m mayor first and I’m a member of the police services board as a result of me being mayor,” Hobbs said.

“If I can’t go to the chief of police as mayor of the city of Thunder Bay and suggest we get a handle on our robberies then I don’t need to be on that police services board. I need to just be the mayor,” he added.

The mayor met with police chief J.P. Levesque Tuesday morning and said the two had a good talk and they have a good relationship.

“I want to be able to sit down in his office or him come sit in my office and talk about policing issues without someone scrutinizing me that I’m interfering with day-to-day operations of the service,” said Hobbs.

Police services board chairman Joe Virdiramo said the board supports Hobbs’ decision and will continue to work with him in his role as mayor.

“There were (conflict) issues in relation to discipline issues and whatnot. He took that into consideration, made a decision and we’re going to carry on, move forward and keep this city safe,” Virdiramo said.

A new city council representative will be selected to fill the vacant seat on the board on Oct. 22.
 

Below is the news release issued to media from the mayor's office in its entirety.

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Mayor’s Statement on Stepping Down from Police Services Board October 16, 2012 – Mayor Keith Hobbs has advised City Council that he is stepping down from the Thunder Bay Police Services Board and made the following statement:

I have advised the Thunder Bay Police Services Board that I am stepping down from the Board after nearly two years of service.

The Board is accepting of my decision given that my past career in policing has frequently created situations where I must declare a conflict and remove myself from specific deliberations. As well, removing myself from the Board will allow me to more freely comment on community safety matters as is expected of the Mayor of any municipality.

This is a mutually acceptable change in the composition of the board. A new City Council representative will be selected on October 22.

I wish the Board all the very best in their deliberations as they oversee the provision of police services in the City of Thunder Bay and on a contract basis to Oliver Paipoonge.

The Board is the civilian trustee of the public interest as it pertains to police services in the community. The Board is made up of five members (three municipal and two provincial appointees) plus a board secretary.

The Board's mandate is legislated by the Ontario Police Services Act and can be summarized as general management and setting of policing policy.

The Chief is responsible for daily policing and other operational matters. Generally, the Board's role in shaping the structure of policing is very broad, limited by legislation only in the realm of daily operations.


 

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CM Punk says:
Mayor Hobbs should follow in McGuinty's footsteps and resign as mayor.
Too much drama, conflict of interests, apologies, lawsuits, etc.
10/16/2012 10:10:48 AM
canuckman55 says:
yes lets instead elect someone who will blindly follow administration, not listen to voters, not show up to anything and just generally remain quiet in his office. You know... like our last mayor.
10/16/2012 10:36:20 AM
SadButTrue says:
The last mayor at least put forward initiatives. Maybe not at all a good mayor but we now have one who likes like spotlight and that's pretty much where his mayoral skills end.

2 years almost now. No new initiatives. None of campaign promises fulfilled or even attempted for that matter. Few not quite scandals, a lawsuit. But 1800 appearances a year that are at best publicity events.

While not lies massive over exagerations, numerous statements of promise left unfulfilled (ones he shouldnt have made to begin with).

He has made statements bout how much he would have made if he was a by the hour employee. I've done the math that he said and determined he can't do math properly. And if he did put in that many hours it is because he is ineffective and needs to do more hours to accomplish nothing.

I want him to be a good mayor. I voted for that tide of change. The new Thunder Bay to come into effect. We have experienced change but some goes positive more has gone negative
10/16/2012 11:35:31 AM
tsb says:
Well if Hobbs does step down, since we're now half way through the term, a by-election is out of the question and Lynn Peterson will be asked to replace him. If Hobbs steps down, Peterson will step back in.

I don't see that much difference between the two, and never did, but Hobbs has subtle differences to him that I prefer, like the way he engages the community and isn't afraid to voice his opinion. And, as today's decision to resign and last year's decision to drop the youth curfew policy, he has shown that he has the ability to (eventually) learn from his mistakes, admit defeat, and move on. Very few politicians can do that.

Hobbs isn't the best mayor, but he's not bad.
10/16/2012 11:49:34 AM
baor says:
Drama is an obscure way of looking at any situation. Your "drama" may not be mine (fact it likely isnt)
How many "conflict of interests" are you talking about? I know of one. How many apologies? Again, I know of one. How many lawsuits? One, which the apology made go away.
Hobbes should not resign as mayor. I hope he runs again.
10/16/2012 1:17:51 PM
yqtyqt says:
Lets hope we get a council representative who can stand tall against the strong police union.

Taxpayers should have a strong financial interest in having someone with the character and spine to make tough decisions with the interest in regaining public confidence in the polic force.

This isn't necessarily all about whats best for the cops. Its about what's best for the citizens. We pay the bills, all of us.
10/16/2012 10:13:18 AM
ring of fire dude says:
"Lets hope we get a council representative who can stand tall against the strong police union." Well , you know there's another way of taking on the Police Union . Bring in the RCMP as the Police Service in Tbay and say see-ya to the local Police Department .
10/16/2012 2:35:16 PM
Random says:
Confused here.
What do you mean by regaining public confidence? How has it been lost? 100% solved murder record, high rate of solved occurances? Explain, cause im stumped. And please don't pick macs robberies where everytime the suspects wear black clothes with black hoodies hiding their face from poorly positioned cameras.
A tough police union? Seriously? Because of the wage they have that matches the provincial standard? Explain that one too please. Not trying to pick a fight, i'm just asking a legitimate question, with facts to support that claim. Faaacts.
Police chief presents a budget, explains the costs, council approves it. No strong arming by the police chief, no nothing.
The claims made on this site are so far out in left field, are you all now used to the U.S politicians making outlandsh claims as facts that you now do it too?
I'm betting this doesn't even make it to post, i probably crossed that obscured line here.
10/16/2012 8:36:53 PM
DazeofThunder says:
A wise choice, now get out there with the people and mingle. You can replace the gained time with season tickets to the new events center, and whoever will be playing there. Maybe you can sit in a different seat every time to get all kinds of perspectives.
10/16/2012 10:13:28 AM
chezhank says:
How could he have served on the police board for two years?
Didn't he step down from the board from March of 2011 till December 2011 when he was under investigation by the OCPC.Maybe he got paid for it,but I guess that is better than actually being there.
Oh well it'll be business as usual at the board!
10/16/2012 10:15:33 AM
chezhank says:
Finding the remuneration for councillors for 2011 it appears that he did not receive any salary for his time away from the board.
10/16/2012 11:42:11 AM
The Badger Mountain Hermit says:
What Right to Police think they have, meddling in Politics?
10/16/2012 12:00:51 PM
Cam Gibb says:
Seems fully explained and understandable in light of the conflict of interest. Was the right thing to do, so another that has not been on force can fill the position unrestricted by such limitations.
10/16/2012 12:16:33 PM
Whodo says:
Yes, it is getting easy to see who is calling the shots around here.
Question:

In listening to Last evening Council Meeting I had to ask myself,
Who is in charge here?
I didn't realize it was Mr Commisso's job/ place To Call a plebiscite or Not to call a plebiscite?
10/16/2012 12:17:12 PM
Tim H. says:
now resign from council and spill the beans to the rest of us.

dont get further into the corruption thats rampant in city hall, come clean and be a man of your word
10/16/2012 12:21:23 PM
Vanity says:
Thought it was the Mayor's mandate to be on the board. He should resign from Council too.
10/16/2012 12:27:36 PM
ricky says:
Hobbs is the best mayor this town has seen in ages. At least he's in the public, available for interviews and admits his shortcomings. Should be looking at all the councillors who swing the votes in favor of what they want and not what Thunder Bay citizens want.
10/16/2012 12:46:51 PM
jimmyboy says:
reply to "ricky"...please spare us your "best mayor this town has seen in ages"...Hobbs and all of his antics are hardly the case....oh yes Hobbs himself will tell you he is out there in he public....after all he reportedly attended 1,900 events in the year 2011...which by all calculations does not leave him much time for actually doing something good for the city other than attending luncheons and photo-ops.!

He himself by his actions and his alone got him initially removed from the police services board....he cannot hang that on anyone but himself.

If him having a conflict of interest is indeed fact....then would it have not made sense for Hobbs to decline being on this board from the get go.???

As far as him being able to freely comment....I strongly feel that is a crock as well....obviously he does not get it that he wears 2 hats....clearly not the brightest crayon in the box is our mayor.

More smoke and mirrors....
10/16/2012 2:23:32 PM
ricky says:
I don't need Hobbs to tell me where he's been, I've seen him around town walking the streets many times. How many times did our last mayor do that. And, I don't believe he blames anyone else for his issues.
I guess that's why they have elections Jimmyboy.
10/16/2012 2:56:32 PM
anvil of crom says:
i wish hobbs was more heated as a mayor! More like like "Jolly Wally" Walter Assef, he threatened to beat people in council with his fists...in camera!
Now theres a firebrand mayor...heat it up hobbs!
Drive safe and remember like all of us no texting while driving!

To Editor... how was that i didnt exactly point the finger.
10/16/2012 2:44:28 PM
Tom Sanderson says:
CM Punk, SadButTrue,chezhank, DazeofThunder You all seem to have all the answers to the problems in this city. Why don't you run for council and get rid of crime, cancel any projects that you don't agree with, settle the flood claims etc.
Try looking at the glass as half full once in a while you might surprise yourself and see that not everything has to be bitched about.
10/16/2012 2:47:22 PM
SadButTrue says:
Who said I have the answers. I did say I looked to him to have the answers and he has fallen short of providing them.

Why is it that anytime someone critiques our mayor or council your argument is used. "Why don't you run and see how it is." I put my powerful vote towards the person that to the public presented what he would attempt to achieve with our city. Why would I run against someone wanting to have the same outcome as me? I and others put our faith and were let down. Maybe next election I will or maybe there will be another hopeful that has those ideals we want in our city. My point was, he unfortunately is not that person.

I'd be less critical if he took a stand at council or at least tried for all those things he campaigned for even if he lost in the end.
10/16/2012 3:27:26 PM
chezhank says:
@Tom Sanderson
Most people on this site know who I am.
Maybe you should mature and face reality!
Did he spend two tears on the board .....no...he was off for 7(seven) months....fact!
There was a police board meeting today and what was accomplished there today....as usual....nothing to report on!
10/16/2012 4:26:45 PM
trevor99 says:
I do not see how everyone misses the larger picture. I do not care that he stepped down, I do care about the why he stepped down. He could not be effective on the Board due to limitations placed on him. The Mayor of the city was being handcuffed. Why are people okay that the Mayor cannot ask the Chief of Police to do something about the robberies in this town. With the crime fighting record the T.bay police have, should we really just trust that they will stop crime in its tracks.

I guess the 30 years of futility won't prevent anyone from clicking their heels and pretending we are in Kansas instead of in a city with a large crime problem that the police simply say is because they do not have enough officers and the province needs to do more. blame everyone but themselves. They never meet budget, we have more and more victims of crime, and the bosses collect 200 grand a year to sit on their duffs.

Get the job done or get the OPP in here to do it. They seem rather incompete
10/16/2012 6:13:18 PM
DazeofThunder says:
@Tom Sanderson
Funny stuff, I didn't even insult the mayor, in fact I like our mayor. The wise move was for his choice that there was potential conflict of interest being on the board. I even offered up ideas how he can improve his public image, or any mayor's image for that matter. A bitch is about complaining without having an idea of a solution. You should figure that one out before picking names out of a hat and lashing out blindly.
10/16/2012 6:56:51 PM
Chaos says:
So taxpayer paid for the 3 ring circus hearing that we paid Hobb's legal tab and now he chooses to resign?!?!? Why now? McGinty taking his spotlight? Please reporter ask these questions. Thanks.
10/16/2012 7:07:46 PM
CM Punk says:
My previous comment did not get posted on here which was directed to Tom Sanderson.
Oh well, it would be a waste to try and rebuttal feeble minded comments.
10/16/2012 7:32:50 PM
Mastermind says:
To Trevor 99, why can't mayor sit down with chief tell him to do something about robberies? Really. You don't think the chief would be concerned about that? You don't think there might be a perception of conflict with that? City hall deciding what needs attention. Maybe mayors friends. Maybe councillors getting special attention. It happens now with councillors not going through proper channels and paperwork. They call police direct to try and get things in "their" wards done. As for the OPP, they are definitely not cheaper. You would still pay through taxes. They would not go to every call that goes through comm centre. Once they low ball costing to take over policing and contract up, the raise the price. How much money have they recently spent looking for a guy in Nipigon who stole a vehicle. Huge dollars. Provincial tax payers.
10/16/2012 7:42:02 PM
jimmyboy says:
When you get right down to it...concerning mayor Hobbs and all his shenanigans most these days are finding themselves feeling very....

"Exhaustipated"....which in layman terms means...They are just too tired to give a crap".

10/16/2012 8:57:15 PM
HooWee says:
Just stick it out guys, He wont' get re-elected.
10/17/2012 6:31:39 AM
canuckman55 says:
I'll take that bet
10/17/2012 2:16:49 PM
Tannoy says:
Who cares?
10/17/2012 8:35:23 AM
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