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2012-10-16 at 15:56

Blindsided: Few probably saw McGuinty resignation coming, LU professor says

By Jamie Smith, tbnewswatch.com
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Doug West was shocked to hear Premier Dalton McGuinty resigned Monday evening.

 

The news probably came as a surprise to some in the Liberal party ,the Lakehead University political science professor said. As for motive, West said it’s all speculation right now.

“He’s tired, it could just be that simple, just tired of this stuff,” West said from Lakehead’s Orillia campus Tuesday morning.

There is speculation that the nine-year premier is stepping down in order to take a run at the federal Liberal leadership but West is doubtful McGuinty will go that way.

“I don’t think he has the chops for that,” he said. “I think he’s done.”

Many have called the decision to prorogue the legislature along with resigning the wrong move for McGuinty. But that seems to be the way a lot of provincial leaders are handling their resignations these days.

It gives them and their party time to figure things out. And it gives the former leader a chance to be involved in the process of the party choosing a successor West said.

“Proroguing it means that you just push a button that says pause. You don’t lose anything that’s on the order paper you don’t lose anything that’s on any of the agendas,” West said.

Thunder Bay Chamber of Commerce president Harold Wilson said regardless of the prorogation, things still need to get done. He’s heading down to meet with ministers and opposition members in November on a number of issues. No one knows how prorogation will affect the outcome.

“Some we’ve been fighting for a long time such as with the endangered species and the need for economic impact analyses before some of these things get pulled into place,” he said.

It will also mean another election eventually, something that always slows bureaucracy down.

“I would hate to see that happen again,” Wilson said. “The economy isn’t going to sit back and wait.”

Still, Wilson said McGuinty did a lot for Thunder Bay and Northwestern Ontario though the Liberal’s transit plan that revitalized the local Bombardier plant. He said the news came as a surprise.

The interesting thing West sees now is how the provincial leadership race will play out as there is no apparent front-runner. But with changes in British Columbia and Quebec, he doesn’t think provincial Liberals anywhere are in for easy victories in the next elections.

“I think the Liberal party is in trouble. I think we’re watching a transformation of the electorate into people who are tired of the Liberal party and they’re embracing the NDP in a way that is sustainable,” he said.

Prorogation will probably last until at least after Christmas West said.
 

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The Beaver..... says:
yes sir he is tired from all the manipulations and corruption over which he resided.His legacy as a full time idiot will be in the books of Ontario forever.From Hydro to Wind Power the elimination of the Coal Plants at a time when coal is making a huge come back sure shows a sign of not understanding life in general.
10/16/2012 5:59:35 PM
Fluffy says:
I was blindsided by his tax increases . So long big daddy. Don't let the door smack you on the way out.
10/16/2012 6:06:33 PM
nvjgu says:
I saw it comeing, one way or another. What worries me is who and what is next. I don't think they can tax us anymore could they.
10/16/2012 9:32:10 PM
yqtyqt says:
"What worries me is who and what is next."

Lets hope that whoever is next has the courage to stop the hemmoraging of taxpayers money that he leaves behind as a legacy. McGuinty will be remembered as the "Premier dad" who stole money from his grandchildren to get re-elected several times.

What lies ahead is paying the bills that this idiot has racked up and re-building public confidence. I`m sorry to say, but the spending orgies are over. Its time to pay down the provincial credit card. It won`t be popular, but someone has to take the bull by the horns. McGuinty has deep-sixed the economy for a long time to come.

I hope we end up with someone who is accountable and responsible. Both locally and provincially.
10/17/2012 8:27:00 AM
lori says:
yqt, I am just a little curious. why is your disdain for the economic performance of this gov't so limited. where is your disdain for the economic performance of Bob Rae, Brian Mulroney, Mike Harris who lied the whole time about the level of debt and the deficit. Why no comment about Stephan Harper and his level of debt. You always play the one trick pony but you never look outside your little box.
Did he rack up deficits, sure did, but he eliminated the one he got from Big Mike there and had a balanced budget for the first few years I think. Then the recession/depression hit. He had a choice, save jobs, or cut and risk a deeper recession. Comment on that aspect and you and I can debate till the cows come home. Dalton pushed to save the auto sector. Hundreds of thousands of jobs and it cost billions. you keep suggesting he shouldn't have. I don't think many people would agree with you. By the way, much of that debt was spent here. The thousands of jobs likely saved this city.
10/17/2012 10:57:36 AM
yqtyqt says:
So let me understand. You want to defend Dalton McGuinty who is a serial liar. You want to defend a Premier who has taken us from the penthouse to the outhouse during his term. You actually think highly of a man who stolen from our grandchildren to pay for his mistakes.

You honour a man who has cheated ontarians and who has lied to taxpayers, the teachers (who have done him in) and now his own party. Didn't he tell the Ont Libs that he would stay on until the next election. You defend a Premier that hid the documents on the gas fired plants, but offered them up when confronted with contempt charges. Only to come up with several thousand pages of undisclosed information. Who wanted to hang Minister Bentley out to dry over the cancellation to buy votes.

Well Lori, how much worse can it get for this Liar. I'm sure his shadow is ashamed to be attached to him.

But then again, you support two gutless MPPs who follow their leader.

Harris has been gone for 10 years, get over it
10/17/2012 2:16:41 PM
lori says:
I will defend a premier who said he would have fixed elections and did. the guy who said the books will be open before every election and did. the guy who fixed hosptials, schools and our water and the guy who sent billions of dollars up here and saved this city. You call him a liar. Then every politician is. YOU see they all borrowed, every province, the gov't of Canada, every state, the US, almost every world country, they all borrowed against the future when this crash hit, not just these guys, but then you know that already. as for the spineless guys, i'll remind you again. one guy said no to closing the coal plants in his riding and he saved them both and he saved my hometown. spineless? he told his gov't they had to invest and hundreds of millions are here in jobs and a future for my little town. so the penthouse you call it was built on deficits and more debt at a time when the world economy was booming. Mistakes sure, but again, name me the Premier who did better for the north
10/17/2012 5:59:17 PM
canuckman55 says:
When Mike Harris was premier we had the strongest economy in Canada. Harris was a jerk, but Dalton just sucked at leading.
10/17/2012 4:22:40 PM
hotchoc says:
Canuckman, please explain how you give credit to Mike Harris for a strong economy when the economy of Canada and the world was booming, yet blame the Premier when the world economy almost collapsed and countries were on the brink.

One little Premier, in one little country of 33 million is supposed to have a strong economy when Ontario's largest trading partner was on the verge of a depression and people were walking away from their homes.

I am not a Liberal by nature, but I am no where near a conservative.

This guy made some mistakes, but they all do. That is the nature of the game. But I will take what he did for our region and what our two representatives have brought to this region anytime. This city has benefited greatly by this government.
10/17/2012 10:14:20 PM
dying2know says:
And another rigged election will soon take place. Maybe we should just have a Texas Hold-em tournament for all the candidates. Voting isn't drawing enough of a crowd these days.
10/17/2012 12:31:18 PM
Conker2012 says:
Hold on here.... you are bashing the premier who gave us the $ to build the harbour expressway 11/17 extension, almost 1Billion dollars to twin our highway from here to nipigon, 20+million for the marina, a $250million dollar hospital and over 2billion in manufacturing contracts at the bombardier plant that will provide over 1000+ jobs for close to 15 years????? Yeah he F-ed up badly. Do you not realize that the lies and mixups almost entirely impacted in southern ontario? Could be worse we could have PCs who would cut our highway projects, cancel toronto light rail projects and give tax breaks to the rich while punishing the average citizen. Or the NDP which would spend so much money that it would make the american debt crisis look like an walk in the park.... The grass isn't always greener.
10/17/2012 3:19:37 PM
lori says:
yes conker they are.

because for some in this backwater region of Ontario of which I have lived my whole life, even everything is not enough.

More money, more jobs, more everything than any other gov't in my living memory and still they don't like these guys.

We had many gov'ts who forgot where the north was, not this gov't.

Billions upon billions and it is not enough.

We are the north, we deserve the world is their mantra. That is all the complainers know.
10/18/2012 3:15:57 PM
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