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2013-01-08 at 16:51

OSSTF representative says he can`t see teachers returning to volunteer duties

By Leith Dunick, tbnewswatch.com

THUNDER BAY -- Paul Caccamo says unless the province takes a different negotiating stance, he can’t see teachers returning to volunteer duties anytime soon.


Earlier this week Education Minister Laurel Broten, using powers granted under controversial Bill 115, imposed a contract on the province’s high school teachers, in the process taking away many of the benefits they’d previously enjoyed.

The legislation also removes teachers’ right to collectively bargain their contracts.

Caccamo, the Ontario Secondary School Teachers Federation District 6 bargaining unit president, is off to Toronto on Wednesday for help union leaders figure out their next steps in the ongoing dispute with the province.

Frustrated with Ontario’s insistence on Bill 115, Caccamo says this week’s meetings will help them formulate a plan of attack moving forward.

“What she’s done is both unwarranted and unacceptable and we will continue to fight,” Caccamo said, interviewed at the OSSTF’s Balmoral Street office.

The new contract freezes salaries for two years, halves the number of sick days from 20 to 10 and ends the time-honoured process of banking them to cash out at retirement.

According to the Ministry of Education website, the imposed deals, 65 of which were ratified on Jan. 3, will save the province $250 million in 2012-2013, a figure that will grow to $540 in 2013-14; additionally the province says it will save $1.1 million with the elimination of banked sick days, all part of the province’s attempt to get rid of a $14-billion deficit.

A similar deal was signed with Ontario English Catholic Teachers’ Association this past summer.

Caccamo said teachers are fuming they weren’t given a say, and fears it’s a slippery slope union workers will never bounce back from.

None of this had to happen, said Caccamo, admitting he wouldn’t be too upset if the new Liberal leader forces Broten – or a new education minister – to reverse course.

In November, Lakehead Public Schools and its teachers reached an agreement locally, a deal Broten vetoed.

“We were absolutely committed, as we have been for decades, to engage in labour negotiations with our employers. And each and every time we’ve done that in the past it’s been successful.

“We remain committed that if (Broten) backs away, takes away this contract that she imposed on us, and gives us a fair opportunity to sit down and truly negotiate, which she has not done, we can come to terms with our local employer in such a way that there will be labour peace.”

Disappointment and anger are the words he used to describe the feeling of educators, who have stopped taking part in extra-curricular activities, which has effectively put an end to the high school sports season and curbed other clubs, including drama productions, as well.

Caccamo said he had a chance to speak with several Liberal leadership hopefuls when they debated last month in Thunder Bay, said he heard words of promise from them.

“They echoed the concern that labour unrest is not what they want to see in education, but also made a commitment to sit down if they become the premier and take meaningful steps back to the education system,” he said.

“The minister of education talks at great length of the good will that’s in our schools. In order to have good will, people on both sides need to be treated properly. And we are absolutely firm in our position that she has not treated us fairly. And the lack of good will that’s in our schools right now is a direct result of her actions.”

The hard feelings against Broten run deep in the union, and it might just be time for her to step aside, he said.

“Certainly I think new blood could certainly lead to new opportunities. But at the same time, if she stays in the position, we certainly hope she’ll come to her senses and take some meaningful steps to try to rectify some of the poor decisions she’s made.”

Broten earlier this week announced Bill 115 will be repealed at month’s end now that the contracts have been implemented.

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panzerIV says:
Was the deal between Lakehead and the teachers vetoed or was it stopped by the union as a show of force to the government? I seem to remember the latter but I have been wrong in the past.

Didn't the government say they would repeal Bill 115 when the new leader and government returned? Use the wording in the bill and then scrap it once it has been used up. Again, im not 100%
1/8/2013 4:57:21 PM
DRL1979 says:
The deal was thrown out by the government.

Once the bill has been implemented they don't need the legislation to enforce it.
1/8/2013 5:12:50 PM
eastender says:
Teachers: Your power comes from your late ability to strike, and from your sheer numbers. The governments power, (thats us taxpayers who, by the way, out number you) comes from the fact that we gave you the power in the first place, and now that we have fallen on hard times, must use our trump card, and take the trick. When you strike against a business, that refuses to budge, there is a form of equalization. You lose wages, business loses money, both are eventually forced to negotiate. When teachers strike, they lose wages, but students are caught in the middle, and lose an education, but govt. doesnt lose anything. Many well edeucated people work on salary, and work 10-12 or more hours for far less pay and benefits than you get. Your not going to get any sympathy there.
1/9/2013 1:36:58 AM
vimeo says:
Couldn't have said it better @eastender.

Nobody likes to give up a benefit that they've enjoyed for years. After a while it becomes "they're right". I hear the arguement from teachers who use their graduate credentials as justification for benefits. It's really hard to compare with other careers as many people who hold Masters degrees work for companies who don't have nor need a union.

Folks, take a look around you. Other unions around the country have settled for wage roll backs. You at least have a freeze. The days of banked sick time as a retirement reward are gone. Get over it.
1/9/2013 9:35:58 AM
Thunderbayoutsider says:
I usually am pretty positive on here, but this is getting to me. So the govt is in a terrible financial position and has restricted the bargaining rights of the teachers to incorporate a wage freeze, less sick days, and no more banking sick days for retirement? That's it? And because of that the teachers will no longer do voluntary activities that greatly assist our youth? This is ridiculous! Is Caccamp concerned at all about the kids? Some small business owners and other jobs must be looking at this and wondering what the heck? I have a masters degree In a respected field with tones of experience and do not have a compensation package like this at all! Banking sick days for retirement? They are sick days!!! If I don't use my 5 sick days I lose them ...this issue is a head scratcher for me because at the end of the day the kids are getting hurt :(
1/8/2013 6:30:23 PM
Norshor says:
Any business that is spending more than it makes has to cut expenses or go out of business - common sense. They keep saying this is for the students and future generations, the only thing they are accomplishing is trying to pack on more debt for them to pay!
1/8/2013 6:49:59 PM
TheFloyd says:
The tentative deal never made it to a vote after it was revealed that the minister was changing the language of similar deals in other areas.

Dalton did say he'd repeal Bill 115 but that makes no sense because it was indicated that the bill would be used only once - and that's like beating somebody with an olive branch and then extending it to them, expecting peace.
1/8/2013 7:37:56 PM
Tiredofit says:
Quote "Caccamo said teachers are fuming they weren’t given a say, and fears it’s a slippery slope union workers will never bounce back from."

I'm sorry, but you had a long time to negotiate before bill 115. Your golden parachute is something WE THE TAX PAYERS can no longer afford. Most people don't get 10 paid sick days let alone the ability bank them and us them at retirement.

So you don't want to volunteer your time, oh well, just the kids you claim you care so much about that suffer. Perhaps it's time you grow up and accept it. While I appreciate the job you do teaching my kids, your living in a dream world the public can simply no longer afford.
1/8/2013 7:44:59 PM
tjs54 says:
so basically since the teachers are upset they will use what limited power they have to take away things from their students....who don't vote and are being punished...wow i thought people became teachers because they want to work with children....not get 20 vacation days whoops sorry sick days...can't volunteers come from the community to help get some of these activities back on? i wonder how many students are "disappointed and angered"
1/8/2013 8:58:03 PM
Tbay99 says:
I'm a new bachelor of education grad, fire some of these loser teachers and hire me, I'll gladly do extracurricular activities!
1/9/2013 12:36:52 AM
oscarmyerweiner says:
Strike and be done with it. Show some back bone, just be fair and don't get greedy.
1/9/2013 2:49:22 AM
control says:
Greedy?? what are they being greedy about guy?? not asking for money or extra days off. So, why are they being greedy lil fella??
1/11/2013 2:04:50 PM
desteeler says:
Paul Caccamo are you kidding me. You and your union feel that you are entitled to 20 sick days and the ability to bank them to retire earlier and want pity from the rest of ontarios working force who the majority couldnt dream of such perks. This of course is on top of summers off, christmas off, march break, weekends off and in high school work from 8:30 - 3:30 with a period off and paid lunch. What is that 5.5 hr work day at a rate of 50-80k a year. Now you threaten children that they may not have volunteers to coach or supervise extra curricular activities because our government is taking a stand for the tax payers.

The world has changed for almost everyone and I understand the frustration that your life will take a significant change but its time the teachers caught up to the rest of us. Maybe the union should spend some time in the economics class.
1/9/2013 8:47:35 AM
sky high says:
How about the teachers rally in the summer when they won't be affecting kids and their education? Guess not because teachers will be busy for THREE months lying on a beach at camp eating hot dogs.
1/9/2013 9:52:32 AM
grayrabbit28 says:
The word volunteer means just that. Volunteering is not a requirement to keep a teaching job. It is above and beyond and people need to remember that. Many teachers with young families are unable to volunteer. The ones that do are able and want too and should be respected and thanked. If any volunteering is stopped it is because the union has instructed (told) the teachers to stop.
1/9/2013 10:44:45 AM
Dontlistentome says:
This is an extremely valid comment. I wonder how many people actually realize this? Not to mention, I am positive a huge portion of teachers are expected and bullied into drinking the union koolaid for fear of backlash. I would bet nearly every teacher who volunteered their time to students did so willingly and would continue to do so if 'allowed'.
1/9/2013 6:33:38 PM
Justamom says:
Why punish the kids for the gov't actions. Sad that the ones to lose out are the kids in all this.
1/9/2013 11:07:07 AM
Chaos says:
Shame on teacher who refuse to do volunteer work because of this. Using this logic next time Resolute/Bowater goes on strike are the workers there going to stop coaching hockey or sitting on a boards like many local people do? This only hurts children and those who take advantage of children for there own personal benefit will be punished on this earth and life after.
1/9/2013 12:57:21 PM
tudor says:
The best idea I have seen out of this whole teacher debate was to simply give them a 9 hour work day with one hour unpaid for lunch.

Make them show up at 8 and leave at 5.

They don't have to teach any more hours or be forced to coach. They would have the time to mark papers, prepare for classes, do report cards. Think of the work that could be done.

It would avoid those 6 hour nights that they spend every single day doing all of that work. Think they will go for it.

Send 100 packing. Make the union fight to get them their jobs back. Send it to arbitration where it will take 1-3 years before it will be decided. Give 100 new jobs to trained teachers who want to work.

Send a strong message, along with fining any union that goes on strike $250,000 a day. They want to play hardball.

after being handed the kitchen sink for 8 years, they resort to hurting the kids.

I will spell out in detail the sole issue for the teachers

M O N E Y
1/9/2013 10:52:45 PM
zamindar says:
I read the first sentence..
"Paul Caccamo says unless the province takes a different negotiating stance, he can’t see teachers returning to volunteer duties anytime soon."
and couldn't read any further.
Volunteering by definition is a personal choice to help others for NO MONETARY COMPENSATION. To say that you *or in this case your unions members" are not going to volunteer anymore because you don't get paid what you want means you were never a volunteer in the fist place. absolutely disgusting
1/10/2013 12:20:28 PM
control says:
Keep the jealousy up people, its great!!
1/11/2013 1:17:44 PM
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