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2013-01-14 at 20:35

Late night bite

By Jeff Labine, tbnewswatch.com
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THUNDER BAY -- Residents can now place their food and drink orders a bit later at the Prince Arthur’s Landing restaurant.

The Bight restaurant at Marina Park had to close at 11 p.m. because of a municipal bylaw. The original bylaw barred the public from the park between 11 p.m. to 6 a.m. City council on Monday voted to amend the law and allow the restaurant to continue serving until 1 a.m.

At-Large Coun. Larry Hebert pointed out that the amendment looked specifically at Prince Arthur’s Landing and wondered if it should be broader.

Parks manager Paul Fayrick said there’s a number of issues that need to be addressed, including the fact that the public technically shouldn’t be in the park when the city has its firework display on Canada Day since it takes place at 11 p.m.

Since some of those issues may require public consultation, Fayrick said they wanted to just focus on a single issue involving this restaurant.

“The condominiums are going to have people entering and existing at all hours of the day and night,” he said.

“What we want to do is deal with specifically with the restaurant. Part of the discussion with the hotel operator and developers in the Marina Park area is designating areas where we might want to have no restrictions.”

At-Large Coun. Iain Angus suggested that Fayrick should also look at the 11 p.m. bylaw and possibly having extended hours during the summer.

“It really doesn’t make sense to chase people out of a public park just as the sun is going down,” he said.

In other business, council also passed the Urban Forest Master Plan in principal and planned to revisit it.

Council was to hear from the Thunder Bay Youth Suicide Prevention Task Force but that was taken off the agenda. Also taken off the meeting’s schedule was the assessment of the Atlantic Avenue Water Pollution Control Plant following the May 28th flooding disaster.

That report will be coming to council on Feb. 4.

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Chaos says:
How much is the restaurant paying per square foot to the city? Taxpayers want to know.
1/14/2013 9:05:46 PM
advocate says:
Usually these contracts are posted on the website under tenders. If not there, you are free to ask someone at the City or do a Freedom of Information request.

Essentially, most of this stuff we can always find out. We have that ability.
1/14/2013 9:29:25 PM
sky high says:
The next person who asks how much per square foot the restaurant is paying in taxes is going to get a rectangular foot from me. The information is clearly made available to the public and with a bit of effort can be easily found.
1/15/2013 8:33:28 AM
ricky says:
How much is the restaurant paying per square foot to the city?
1/15/2013 10:38:01 AM
woodzee says:
$6.00! That's right six Canadian dollars per square foot.
1/16/2013 10:15:45 AM
city-girl says:
i don't understand why the city is bending over backwards for this overpriced mistake on the lake. i'm all for having a restaurant on our waterfront. i just thought it would be family friendly considering the location, and not necessary to be open until 1am.
1/14/2013 10:03:14 PM
advocate says:
Every other restaurant has the option to stay open later. The others can stop selling booze at 2am. Boston Pizza is open until 3am. There used to be a couple that were open 24 hours.

So the City is not being unfair by allowing it to stay open past 11pm.
1/15/2013 8:24:06 AM
lappeguy says:
Been there once... I'll never go back. Nevermind staying till 1am!
1/14/2013 10:14:52 PM
sky high says:
Sure you have. Let me guess, you wish the marina had stayed the same as it was in the 60s and that you could just feed the ducks in peace. FOMP!
1/15/2013 8:28:07 AM
lappeguy says:
No, I don't wish that at all. I feel that the Marina is not an ideal place for a "high end" restaurant, with inadequate service.
1/15/2013 11:49:35 AM
jest4fun says:
Instead of putting a blanket curfew on the park that affects people who might want to enjoy a fullmoon on a nice evening walk or an early morning sunrise... law abiding citizens, why not patrol the park to on a regular basis to ensure no illegal shennanigans are taking place. Isn't that how it should work?

Also... more people around would help prevent vandalism and the such.

It is safer walking around downtown Toronto at 3:00am than it is Thunder Bay at 10:00pm simply because of the number of people present.
1/14/2013 11:01:43 PM
SomeGuy says:
Can't please em all.
1/14/2013 11:55:58 PM
millie brendza says:
Great food,excellant service.Should stay open longer to enjoy waterfront.
1/15/2013 5:46:50 AM
yellowsnow says:
Great news, hopefully they can help out this local business and let them stay open later. As much as some of the brain trust here would love to see them fail. Pathetic...
1/15/2013 7:25:45 AM
youngintbay says:
here comes the complaint crews. waaa something changed in this town waaaaaa
1/15/2013 7:34:08 AM
Tundrabay says:
Don't panic, eventually this 1940's way of thinking (by-law) will need to be dissolved in it's entirety. You cannot put these restrictions on hotel guests and condo residence/visitors. :)
1/15/2013 8:31:35 AM
bttnk says:
A welcome ammendment to allow this restuarant to stay open late. I've been there several times and the food and ambience is fantastic. I've been with couples and with my young children and it is appropriate for both. The Thunder Bay waterfront is on its way to being world class. If you cant see that and appreciate it you are blind or will never be convinced.
1/15/2013 8:52:43 AM
mazda323 says:
there already is a 'family friendly' restaurant by the waterfront, it's called McDonald's, just up the road a bit
1/15/2013 9:35:18 AM
CM Punk says:
I have not been to the restaurant yet but I am sure its a great edition to the waterfront.
With the condos coming in and the clientele that are buying them, I am sure going to McDonald's won't do.
It does not say anywhere it has to be a family themed restaurant.
You would think they would let the owners open passed 1am especially during late June to end of August.
1/15/2013 10:15:48 AM
Dan Dan says:
Good move by city council. It is businesses like this that will make or break the waterfront.
1/15/2013 11:04:31 AM
city-girl says:
this has nothing to do with being negative about the waterfront develpment or wanting anyone to fail. i just feel that it might be too high priced and eliminate a lot of the people that go to enjoy the marina. no one said it has to be mcdonald's down there.
1/15/2013 12:01:23 PM
conker2012 says:
You get what you pay for. If you want cheap then go to applebee's and get a meal that comes from a bag and is sloped into a frying pan or the deep fryer by a HS kid and enjoy the view of the highway. But if you want quality local ingredents that are not assembled in a factory in Whoknowswhereville, and want to enjoy the marina scenery then spend a bit more. They actually hired a chef not HS kids to make your food.

BTW they do have reasonable food down there in the cantina.

As the down town area takes off there will be chain restaurants showing up. When the multiplex is finished I bet one to two chain restaurants will set up in the down town area within 5 years of the completed facility. They will have all the cheap family friendly food you want (by that I mean frozen chicken fingers).
1/15/2013 3:52:15 PM
unionbay880 says:
So angry about HS kids and frozen chicken fingers, must control rage, raaaaaaah!
1/16/2013 5:45:30 AM
SomeGuy says:
But you can go to a MacDonald's across the street with that's more of your price range then walk across the street. I hardly doubt it's turning people away, if anything it's attracting people.
1/15/2013 4:15:05 PM
mfile says:
Why can't anybody in this city ever just accept things as they are? The city is allowing the restaurant to stay opened past 11 o'clock... Big deal, if you don't like it them just make sure you're done and ready to go by 11. The others who want to enjoy a bit more time there can do so without your pessimistic views anyways.

Grow up and stop acting like 2 year old children who cry for every little change that happens in the city.
1/15/2013 3:13:41 PM
mazda323 says:
Mistake on the lake sounded pretty negative to me. Nevertheless, I'm glad it's a nice restaurant and not a Chuck-E-Cheese. Any restaurant is family friendly if they can offer smaller portions and parents teach their children proper manners.
1/15/2013 4:08:11 PM
Tom Sanderson says:
Typical Thunder Bay welcome to anything that is new. 4 comments pro, 16 negative as of city-girls last complaint.
I for one is glad the city is allowing this business to compete with other establishments by removing the 11pm curfew. If you think this business is not to your liking, shut up, don't go. Not everyone in this town is as depressed as at least 16 out of 20 of you are.
1/15/2013 4:54:04 PM
Blue says:
It,s about time they changed the signs to No overnight camping and moved on. We all know there are people in the overpass area ALL the time!
1/15/2013 6:23:14 PM
razor_burn says:
Not worth it. The place isn't that good and won't be around very long.
1/15/2013 7:27:14 PM
Chaos says:
sky high: where? I tried google search. Please help.
1/15/2013 11:09:17 PM
Jon Powers says:
advocate:
sky high:

Its so very nice to see the "Pro-Bussiness Well-Fare Elite" speaking so very fondly of this "Mistake By The Lake"

FYI:

Bite is only paying just less than $50,000.00 a year in rent to the City Of Thunder Bay; No Utilities.

This after all City Taxpayers paid $2.Million+ for its building. And paid over $82.5Million to build the park too.

Its so great to see the "Business Well-Fare Gravy Train" alive and well in Thunder Bay.

$700,000.00 Waterfront park operational budget + $1,500,000.00 (Multi-Plex) is alot of free Well-Fare to the B.I.A. Elite.

"Sky High" is a great user name let's face it that is what you want everyone in Thunder Bay to pay in taxes.

BTW No one has ever been charged or convicted under this 2001 year BY-Law.

Tundrabay: This BY-Law is just 12 years old,; Why did you think it was from the 1940's?


Great Story!
tbnewswatch.com
1/16/2013 1:23:47 PM
SomeGuy says:
Cite your sources for their rent, none of this here say I heard it on the street stuff either. I want a link to a official document.
1/16/2013 8:24:28 PM
SomeGuy says:
Still waiting for a link...
1/18/2013 11:23:58 AM
Mazda323 says:
Jon powers, the very least you could do in your (once again) negative rant is spell the name of the restaurant correctly.
Btw, there's no reason for them to pay the city for utilities, I don't pay my landlord for them, I pay Thunder Bay hydro for power, tbaytel for phone etc., just like they do.
1/17/2013 6:06:29 AM
Glitterbug says:
I am going to Bight soon and I can't wait to check it out! I would be less concerned with high schoolers cooking - and more concerned about the grownup who can't spell. Check out the caption under the pic! Nice to know Bight has 'chiefs' rather than 'chefs'.
1/17/2013 4:52:23 PM
Jon Powers says:
SomeGuy:

It's in your City of Thunder Bay Budget and Waterfront Documents.

Freedom of Information Act Query; The City Of Thunder Bay won't release that info citing "Privacy Concerns" of the Tennent Bight Eatery.

Mazda323:

"Btw, there's no reason for them to pay the city for utilities, I don't pay my landlord for them, I pay Thunder Bay hydro for power, tbaytel for phone etc., just like they do"

The Taxpayers are paying for their utilities!

Why don't you ask the "Bight" people what they are paying for anyhow!?

Have them post it here on this Web Site!

Great Story!
tbnewswatch.com
1/18/2013 1:41:06 PM
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