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2013-01-21 at 16:00

Cold roads

By Jodi Lundmark, tbnewswatch.com
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Spotting bad drivers is a lot easier in frigid cold temperatures, says a local traffic sergeant.

“If you’re going too quickly and you’re not driving according to the conditions, away you go. You’re off into the ditch or into the back of the car ahead of you,” said Sgt. Glenn Porter of the Thunder Bay Police Service.

With temperatures colder than -20C, not including the wind chill, right after a substantial snowfall, many of the city’s roads are slick and police are asking area residents to slow down.

While Porter didn’t know exact numbers, he said they’ve been dealing with an increased number of collisions since the weekend.

“We’ve had a busy weekend,” he said. “Drivers have to remember salt really isn’t effective during this cold weather.”

Drivers need to drive slow down sufficiently so they can maintain control and stop when necessary, Porter added.

“It is every driver’s responsibility to be able to drive carefully and safely at all times.”

All of the city’s roads should be cleared by the end of Monday, said Irene Dahl, budgets and operational planning coordinator for the City of Thunder Bay.

All that’s left to do is spot treatments for sand.

“We’re doing our best getting gravel onto the roads, but with the cold weather, it’s very difficult to have everything melting right now,” Dahl said.

Cold temperatures like Monday’s are expected to last throughout the week and Dahl said the cold is harder to deal with than a large snowfall when it comes to maintaining city roads.

“Once that ice is down, it takes a lot to be breaking the ice down. Snow is generally just removing it and we’re done,” she said.

The city’s roads department receives weather reports five times a day and also have the weather channel on 24 hours. Residents can also call the detachment with any concerns they have.

The Thunder Bay detachment of OPP also had a busy weekend.

They responded to 43 motor vehicle collisions, most of which included driving off the road or into the back of another vehicle.

On Saturday alone, they responded to 16 tractor trailer vehicles that either collided with another vehicle or slid off of the roadway on Highway 17.

The highway was closed for about nine hours so the vehicles could be cleared from the road.

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Ranma says:
Drove to Dryden yesterday, and why is the highway even open? MTO says it's snow packed, how about nothing but glare ice? The highway is a skating rink, and the extreme cold makes the ice melting stuff not work. Avoid the highways. If you must drive, slow down considerably, please.
1/21/2013 4:15:36 PM
triceps says:
I saw many accidents today that could have easily been avoided... slow down in these conditions, don't tailgate and stay off the PHONES!!
I dont know why this is such a foreign concept to most people
1/21/2013 4:19:02 PM
razor_burn says:
No common sense equals more accidents. Dummies.
1/21/2013 6:00:14 PM
damanisback says:
> < ^ v . : (game controls)
(DRIVING) It's a little harder than the x box there aint it there kid.
slow down, brake early, = LIVE LONGER
1/21/2013 6:13:59 PM
Glyder says:
I like how you generalize that all the people doing the poor driving are kids. I don't think so. I see poor drivers of ALL ages.

The worst are the ones in the trucks and SUVs that have their snow tires on and think that they can do anything/go anywhere, and ride up your ass and blow by you as soon as they can.

Actually had this happen to me on Sunday, where the MIDDLE aged guy in his big bad truck decided to pass me on the highway and 5 seconds later slid right into the ditch.

Last year saw a soccer mom turn right onto the highway to head north off of Arthur off from the turn lane, speed up, and promptly lose control, do 2 360s across the highway and end up facing south in the ditch. Thankfully there were no oncoming vehicles.
1/22/2013 9:32:44 AM
Glyder says:
Stupidity is not limited to just kids. Its present in all ages.
1/22/2013 9:33:18 AM
yoyoma says:
Drove to Longlac today. Stay off if you can, the stretch from about 50km's out of Thunder Bay until Beardmore is horrible, couldn't go over 60 on much of it
1/21/2013 6:35:46 PM
barry medawin says:
This is crazy! I could barely text my friends with the amount of time I spent sliding around corners. Maybe time for those winter tires too.
1/21/2013 6:42:11 PM
Dan Dan says:
Me too! I had to slow down to only 10 km/h over the posted limit.
1/21/2013 9:06:40 PM
jay-ded says:
I'm tired of individuals, who, while driving their 4x4 trucks, feel the need to purposely fishtail around corners. While I appreciate that these idiots think that they are invisible because they have four-wheel drive, they are making roadways far more dangerous for the rest of us. Along with helping to create slick intersections, I have watched several near-misses, as they were unable to recover, nearly sliding in to an oncoming vehicle.
1/21/2013 9:45:21 PM
Baor says:
See major accident above
1/21/2013 11:30:07 PM
Dr.Feelgood says:
If your fishtailing, you don't have your truck in 4x4. RWD cars that are more dangerous: chrysler 300, BMWs, Mercedes, Mustangs, Crown Vics...
1/21/2013 11:36:21 PM
anon says:
Now, now, we don't think we're invisible. If we thought we were invisible we wouldn't bother trying to look mint while we drift these corners!
1/22/2013 12:52:56 AM
passlake says:
I'm thinking that was a ricky-ism....
1/22/2013 10:20:11 PM
imbroglio says:
Nah, I'm not invisible. However, with my modified truck and exceptional driving skills, I am invincible.
1/22/2013 5:09:37 PM
maggie says:
The roads are terrible nouthing but ice. while out driving I didnt see one bit of sand on any roads.
A friend of mine was looking out his window the other day and actually watched a truck putting down sand with a snow plow right behind him plowing. Only in Blunder Bay
1/22/2013 7:26:18 AM
Glyder says:
With the weather this cold, sand and salt are ineffective. Salt won't melt the ice, and the sand will not adhere to it...it just slides off.

As for the sander/plow, what can I say. Mistakes happen.
1/22/2013 10:23:53 AM
Watchmaker says:
Too many people drive as if they are on bare dry pavement. They follow too closely, drive too fast and seem to think that drivers who are operating their vehicles according to the conditions are in the way or going to slow - they then zip in and around the vehicles creating dangers for the rest of us. It also seems that many could use a refresher in how to merge, change lanes and turn at traffic lights - basic driving skills!
1/22/2013 7:46:30 AM
surveysays says:
I have driven over a million kms in every city in canada and never slowly by any means with zero accidents. Tbay drives to slow, summer and winter. These slow paraonoid nervous drivers causing traffic to bunch up lead to accidents. And we have a ton of em, stopping in merge lanes, not making a left on green and letting it go red and driving expressway at 90 kmh in both lanes boxing in traffic.

yes roads are icy but accelerate and turn smoothly and you can drive posted speeds no problem.

drive half the speed and have cars whizzing by you trying to avoid you and yes you will see some accidents to shake your finger at.

1/22/2013 3:08:07 PM
stuck? says:
a "million kms in every city in Canada" my god that would have taken a long time. Hows your vehicle running?
1/23/2013 3:01:47 PM
Arch Stanton says:
I was following some woman this morning who was all over the road...

I tell you, I almost dropped my razor into my cornflakes.
1/22/2013 5:31:12 PM
jethro says:
I actually remember seeing bare pavement in the winter!!!! ya, it was a few years ago tho, before a private company took over doing our highways. I love the excuse that its too cold for salt or sand. If the snow was scraped and salted right after the snowfall when its NOT 20 below then we wouldnt have these problems.
1/26/2013 12:39:30 PM
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