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2013-01-23 at 10:27

Anonymous threat

By Jeff Labine,
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THUNDER BAY – The hacker activist group Anonymous appears to have put the city's police force in its crosshairs.

Through social media messages and a recently released YouTube video by Anonymous News Canada, Anonymous supporters are asked to join Operation Thunderbird. In the video, politicians and police forces across the country are accused of ignoring cases of missing and murdered Aboriginal women.

While Operation Thunderbird appears to target all police services in Canada, it makes specific mention of the Thunder Bay Police Service.

“You have ignored the horrors of missing or murder of indigenous women for the last time,” says the voice in the YouTube video specifically to the Thunder Bay Police Service. "We can no longer idly standby ... Operation Thunder Bird will begin a downpour of rage and justice.”The video refers to a Dec. 27 incident in Thunder Bay where an Aboriginal woman was allegedly abducted and taken to a wooded area where she was sexually assaulted.

The video accuses the city's police force of exaggerating its efforts in solving that case and is now warning the Thunder Bay Police Service that it has until Jan. 28 to take its investigation seriously.

The video threatens to release embarrassing information about the force and its officers.

Story continues after video (Skip to 1:45 for threats against Thunder Bay Police Service) ...

“Why have you decided there’s too many white males driving green two-door sedans to pursue this case?” the video's narrator asks.

“We have set up a secret nest in the house of indignity that is the Thunder Bay police headquarters. We see your piles of worthless paperwork relating to the kidnapping, rape and attempted murder of one of our indigenous sisters. Did you learn the art of investigation in a small town mall?”

Police spokesman Chris Adams said they’re aware of the video and are assessing the situation and what kind of impacts the threats could have.

Adams warned that any non-attributed statements through social media are filled with errors.

“We stand by our investigations of any case that’s ongoing. There will have to be an evaluation of the exact content. That’s further down the road to determine whether or not any criminal act has been committed.”

Adams did confirm that a single officer is working on the sexual assault and abduction case as a lead investigator, but that at one time there was five officers working the case.

Adams said there are times during the investigation where it slows down to where a single officer is monitoring new information.

“Best way to remain anonymous is through crime stoppers,” he said regarding online chatter about this and other cases. “Anything that’s posted through social media is open for speculation.

"For police investigations, it could become a venue for misinformation. Investigators like working with facts and being able to confirm them. Especially when unnamed persons start making unsubstantiated claims, it starts to really muddy the water.”

Adams said they will wait to see if Anonymous follows through on their threat.

“You have to remember that anyone can step forward and say they are Anonymous,” he said. “Is Anonymous really Anonymous?"

Mayor Keith Hobbs said he didn’t see the video but was brief on its contents. Hobbs, a former police officer, said he considers the city’s police service one of the best and added that they have been completely transparent with their investigations.

He added that police are an easy target for groups like Anonymous to attack.

“I absolutely give no credence to any individual or groups that want to make accusations like this,” Hobbs said. “There’s lots of Aboriginal groups who fought hard to get civilian oversight of police. That’s where these complaints should be handled not on social media or in the media. Anyone at any time can make up allegations.”

The mayor praised the police service for reporting on their investigation on the incident at the Safety Forum last week at the Thunder Bay Community Auditorium. Hobbs explained that the cases are difficult to investigate because they’re hard to prove.

Twitter user @Anony_mmis, an account linked to the  Operation Thunderbird initiative, responded to some of the local remarks made about the Anonymous video.

In the response the user states the city police force's attitude toward cases involving Aboriginal women are too similar to the attitudes police had while investigating some of the missing person cases in B.C. that were eventually linked to the Robert Pickton murders.

"The government inquiry into what went wrong with missing and murdered indigenous women in British Columbia found that there was a deep, deep level of prejudice against victims that lead to murders by Robert Pickton and others," writes Twitter user @Anony_mmis in a direct message to a reporter. 

"We see no evidence that things are done any differently whatsoever in Northwestern Ontario policing.

"Genuinely doing justice with respect to racism means tackling ongoing racism in police, legal, government and social structures." 

Maryanne Matthews, spokeswoman for the Ontario Native Women's Association, said they do not condone vigilante action or violence and stressed that peaceful cooperation is the best course in ensuring a safer community.

“The safety of Aboriginal women and their families remain a top priority for ONWA,” she said.

“Currently, we are working together with Nishnawbe Aski Nation, other Aboriginal organizations, the City of Thunder Bay, and Thunder Bay police to address the safety concerns within the community.”

Over the past two decades, there’s been more than 600 cases of murdered or missing Aboriginal women in Canada. Matthews said ONWA is the voice of those women and their families and works to empower Aboriginal women throughout Ontario.



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Curious says:
Not sure about anybody else but shouldn't these overpaid underworked nut jobs get a life! or how about a job - heaven forbid! As a taxpayer i am tired of paying people to sit around, break the law, and hate everybody because they haven't got anything better to do...get a job!Time the police were given permission to charge these crazy people and lock them up!
1/23/2013 10:38:35 AM
barry medawin says:
What you are is scared! Scared because IdleNoMore can do more than just hold up a sign. They are now using technology to expose the corruption. Make it thunder brothers and sisters!
1/23/2013 10:47:46 AM
DougMyers says:
"Idle no More" is in way way related to "Anonymous"

What an ignorant statement to make.
1/23/2013 11:09:01 AM
sweetazmaple says:
he idle no more movement is about the c-38 and the c-45 bills it is a peaceful movement ,,, my thoughts that this person is just trying to be a wanna be and to through negitive thoughts in ppls heads ,,,, as a white woman i support the idle no more movement ........ its peaceful and no violance has been done by the native ppl ,,,, here in toronto there was all ethnics there asians ,, black ,, aborgials ,, whites
as for this person sweetie its not that anonymous there is many ways to catch them soon as u sign in to the site your isp is recorded if you have a proxy a good computer guru can go through that in due time
asfor jan 28th is the date that harper and all the others go back to parliment and there is "idle no more" things going on that day .... i personally would call this persons bluff
1/23/2013 1:52:15 PM
Sui Generis says:
You're more than just a little uninformed.

Anonymous, in this case, does not mean hidden or unknown. Anonymous is a world famous social activist group that uses the internet to fight back against political corruption, bigotry, etc. And they are hidden, for their own protection. If they weren't caught when unleashing a cyber attack on the pentagon, I hardly think the Thunder Bay police stand a chance of finding any of them.
1/23/2013 2:49:35 PM
sky high says:
So our Sui supports empty blackmail threats, does she? They have nothing on the Thunder Bay police force and they will now bow to these cowardly threats. You're biting the hand that protects you...
1/23/2013 7:42:44 PM
Tj says:
This video is bringing awareness to all the missing and aboriginal women that police don't care about. Nothing to do with the Idle no more, and its about time someone is bringing awareness about this issue, and everyone should be a little bit concerned this violent crime even happened and the perpetrator haven't been caught, regardless of the race of the victim. And that's what everyone should be concerned about not finding who the anonymous group is
1/23/2013 6:37:52 PM
Meta says:
Why do you promote hate Barry?

This is not what the Creator teaches us. We should seek peaceful resolution not anger and fight.

This is why as first nation people are in the state we are in. Mind sets like yours.
1/23/2013 6:20:58 PM
jb says:
What are you rambling on about? Overpaid but at the same time they don't have a job? Anonymous isn't one or two people sitting around on welfare. Anonymous can be your neighbour, your doctor, your child or any other person that interact with. Do a little research before you start speculating and spreading misinformation on something you know nothing about.
1/23/2013 11:31:37 AM
mfile says:
Couldn't of said it better myself!
1/23/2013 12:04:57 PM
whatever1239 says:
Everybody should read this - sums it up. If you want equal rights then be equal with all Canadiens ....
1/24/2013 9:44:18 AM
JubJub says:
"The group says it will release embarrassing information about the force and its officers."

Our police take care of this themselves, Anonymous may want to come up with something stronger.
1/23/2013 10:42:51 AM
bv310 says:
Anonymous isn't a group. There is no organization, or structure. This is some kid from here in town that's gone on 4chan a few too many times, and decided that they want to try and use a name to scare someone.
1/23/2013 10:43:03 AM
DougMyers says:
Apparently you have been living under a rock for the past 5 years.
1/23/2013 11:10:06 AM
bv310 says:
No, I've been paying a hell of a lot of attention to Anon. The entire point is that there is no "group" or "feed". By just being a name to use as a front, the point is to give the participants in a given action some form of anonymity, hence their name.
1/23/2013 9:12:44 PM
musicferret says:
Actually, no. This is the real Anonymous feed for Canada. This is the official channel.

Of course there is organization in Anonymous. The whole point is to make the average person think there isn't and to make it difficult for law enforcement to find if any 1 higher up person gets found.

They have in the past released sensitive documents on Canadian Politicians shifty dealings, military abuses and a myriad of other things. Call them 'some kid from here in town' (and that may be the person who brought this story up to the national group) but anonymous is so much larger than you think. How else do you think they get such top-notch info to leak?
1/23/2013 11:29:11 AM
bv310 says:
The group "Anonymous" doesn't do anything. The entire purpose is to be a non-existent name for a bunch of normal people. Having a "feed" is the exact opposite of the group's philosophy. The ENTIRE POINT is that they're supposed to be anyone, without being findable. There is no national group. When you want to run a raid under the name of Anon, you rally a bunch of people to your cause and go from there. They get their info to leak by having someone from the source decide to take a stand against something, not running some shadowy organization.
1/23/2013 9:21:35 PM
pagirl says:
So if the crime doesn't get solved, the police force is racist? And what about all the crimes and murders that have been solved right away? Sometimes there just isn't enough evidence, no witnesses, or no witnesses willing to speak...who do you propose is done then?
1/23/2013 10:47:30 AM
musicferret says:
Interesting use of the word 'idly'..... hmmm

I do however see the point of the video. It seems like TBPS do a poor job at any real cases even when there are very specific descriptions and details. They are great at basic traffic stops and the usual obvious robberies, but thats about it.

I wish we had a switch from the system of big police funding we have now to a more social based funding. Poverty is the enemy, no matter the race.

It will be interesting to see what comes out from anonymous in regards to dirt on the force. Based on the level of computer skills we have seen in their annual surveys, I would guess that the firewall to the servers at police headquarters involve some form of plant being placed in front of the server itself so its more difficult to see. We shall see.

All this being said, I do believe there are many on the force who truly do work hard and try to make change in this community. Its just the other 2/3 of the force that don't.
1/23/2013 10:50:07 AM
pagirl says:
What to you is a "real case"? Most of the murders have been solved, and quickly. There are only a handful of unsolved murders in this city.
1/23/2013 11:13:13 AM
ring of fire dude says:
People will always be poor if they choose to do drugs , booze or poor financial choices . A person has to want to change , it would be an epic battle but everyone has a chance to better themselves
1/23/2013 7:32:53 PM
jetpowered says:
dont be fooled..."Anonymous" isn't some kid in his basement...this is a worldwide movement on the can bet the TBPS is taking this very seriously. Anonymous has been responsible for some very serious internet attacks on companies, governments and organizations. It'll be interesting to see what comes of this.
1/23/2013 11:04:38 AM
billibie says:
This is nothing but a joke, nice try though. Anonomous is not a group, you cannot contact them etc.
1/23/2013 11:15:03 AM
localdog says:
Try getting out of Thunder Bay for a while, see what goes on out there in the real world.
1/23/2013 11:52:20 AM
The Badger Mountain Hermit says:
"Threat" Kinda hysterical, don't you think?
1/23/2013 11:16:59 AM
stuck? says:
Leave it to Anonymous to fix the worlds problems.

Because DDoS'ing and "humiliating" people makes things right and proper.
1/23/2013 11:20:32 AM
1788 says:
Isn't this the same group that took down PS3 network for a couple months?
1/23/2013 11:27:44 AM
stuck? says:
same group, not necessarily same people.
1/23/2013 11:41:15 AM
n00n says:
This isn't Anonymous.

Journalistic integrity is a thing of the past...welcome to the bush league.

Too bad about that Oregan Mayor....
1/23/2013 11:29:47 AM
stuck? says:
One thing that strikes me about all of this is... that it seems that people are so hasty for things to get accomplished they don't realize that sometimes, it takes time to produce results.

Just because we live in the digital age, don't expect EVERYTHING to be instant just like your coffee or text messaging.

There are rules, regulations, stipulations, etc etc that people need to follow in order to do proper investigations and procedures.

You can't go arrest people just because somebody saw a dude in a shirt wearing jeans with a moustache whose about 5'10" because somebody LABELED them as the culprit. You have to PROVE it. Hell, the description of one of the people mentioned almost described me to a T, except I'm not 5'10".
1/23/2013 11:53:58 AM
Is this really anonymous? who knows, but I hardly think that they would waste their time in Thunder Bay. This group targets big cities and corporations. Thunder Bay is small peanuts. It could however be someone in Thunder Bay making a big deal using some other organization. People have to realize that hackers aren't kids anymore. more and more people are becoming these. that's why home security is very important now days. people use routers and don't open up too many ports on them either. Use protection for your internet at home. Don't let anyone come in to your network unless they are protected as well... and don't use your phones through your wireless network either unless you have to. just a thought.
1/23/2013 12:29:38 PM
nvjgu says:
I cant wait for the 28th.
1/23/2013 12:38:09 PM
ring of fire dude says:
Maybe Anonymous can show us who signed the windfarm deal years ago and why the City is sticking a Arena in a lot the size of a parking lot .
1/23/2013 12:47:13 PM
fastball says:
Oh get over it, you big (I don't know it they'll let me print what I want to say....but you know EXACTLY what I mean). You can't always get what you want, nor always going agree with everything going on it in the real world. Either one of those decisions won't affect your life in the least. Safe your moral outrage for the IMPORTANT stuff.
1/24/2013 7:55:55 AM
eddylives says:
How interesting.....
Nothing wrong with a sorce of otherwise covered up topics that never make it past the censorship of politics , government and media as long as their facts are truthfull and complete.
I wonder how they choose their topics to reveal?
Many would like to see the revelation of money recieved by first nations and where it went in full.
Many people are going to follow this closely and some may be very concerned over facts becoming public.
Time will tell.
1/23/2013 1:03:42 PM
Jon Powers says:

If "The Police" have done nothing wrong, then they don't have anything to fear; Or Do They?

Don't you and the rest of society that pay for every "Police Officer's" Taxes believe that you have an unequivical right to know what they've been spending your money on?

If not continue being blind and maybee it might work out for you in the end.

If "Anonymous" reads this post and the others;

Keep Your Promisses!

Great Story!
My Thoughts And Prayers Are With All Of The Victims.
1/23/2013 1:28:39 PM
equality4all says:
Violence to any woman is horrible and should be stopped. It is not just indigenous woman, it's all woman. I find that the focus is less on non-indigenous woman at times. They have also suffered horrible crimes against them as well. All crimes should be treated the same. Violence against woman is not a cultural thing.
1/23/2013 1:29:22 PM
huh says:
maybe they should become police officers?????
then they'd get an idea as to how life works!
this is rediculous!

I commend our local police......they do what they can!
1/23/2013 1:39:24 PM
clevercat says:
Wow violence is a horrible thing and I can believe how many people disagree that protecting themselves is wrong!! If a violent act happened to you and one of your family members I'm pretty sure you would feel these same way as these families do and that you would want anything done for justice to be served. Thank you for posting this video and for the people who are out there supporting this issue!
1/23/2013 1:51:40 PM
truthseeker says:
well if anonymous does have dirt on the thunder bay police force best that they release 'the dirt' to out of town news organizations. I wouldn't trust the news outlets in this town to as one would say 'rock the boat'. It's going to get interesting.
1/23/2013 1:57:46 PM
deluxecustom says:
Fear not of these "Whack jobs" Hidden behind the cheesy Guy Fawkes masks are individuals with nothing better to do than take up fights they have no business being in.Conspiracy loons at best. nearly high quality videos will impress some people into thinking they are a pro team. Think again..Take the masks off and record your own voices.Until then, go away. Medewin..Dont think these guys are going to help you make thunder.Sexual assualt is not just a crime against native women buddy. It is a crime against all women. Get that straight.Be careful who you allie with. This "group" may turn on you if it suits them.Remember that..
1/23/2013 2:17:51 PM
Biteme says:
Online bullying at its finest.
1/23/2013 2:17:57 PM
oscarmyerweiner says:
Why stop with only women, what's wrong with every other violent crimes, murder, rape, armed robbery. All these crimes are absolutely horrifying and to top it off, we have such a weak and broken justice system.(2 years for killing a girl, less than three for beating and burning a man.) Just plain sickening, utter disgust and disrespect for the families and loved ones. If this is just a start to fix such a broken and abused system all the best.

And justice for all.

1/23/2013 2:19:24 PM
onebyside says:
pagirl says:
Reply to this comment.
What to you is a "real case"? Most of the murders have been solved, and quickly. There are only a handful of unsolved murders in this city.

Yes, my family has been waiting for sometime on resolution of my brother's case. Our dear Mayor Mr Hobbs was one of the first officers on his case....unresolved.

Cold Case: Homicide

On the morning of December 01, 1984 the body of Scott DOVE was located in a rock quarry off of Copenhagen Road. Scott DOVE was last seen leaving his residence on the morning of October 31, 1984. On November 08, 1984 his car was found in the LPH parking lot on North Algoma Street.

1/23/2013 2:22:20 PM
canuckman55 says:
While I'm sorry for your family's loss, your second paragraph is false... I had to do some digging to find this information, however:

Hobbs wasn't a detective until the 1990's... so he wouldn't have been "on the case" unless it had happened at least 6 years later.
1/23/2013 5:18:25 PM
tiredofit says:
Canuckman55, read the statement again, he said that Hobbs was one of the first OFFICERS on the case. Officers are often tasked with assisting cases.

Mark, ignore him and any other person that starts questioning your statement, unreal what some people are like in this town.
1/23/2013 7:15:13 PM
itmatters says:
I thought of Scott immediately after reading some of these bias rants. I pray for a resolution to his case for your family.
1/24/2013 12:46:55 AM
milkman1000 says:
Why is it so horrible when you see a message with threats and due dates by al qaeda, or some other extremist group! but now some hillbilly with a video camera is doing essentially the same thing its ok! grow a pair and take off the mask little fella
1/23/2013 2:23:51 PM
localdog says:
Theresa Spence has been threatening to starve herself if demands aren't met by specific due dates. Is she a terrorist or a hillbilly? Is there a double standard that make her actions acceptable where Anon's are not?

"grow a pair and take off the mask little fella" said anonymous user milkman1000. Classic!
1/23/2013 4:01:52 PM
stuck? says:
There's a certain "importance" that Anonymous has. The way they go about making their points is a bit juvenile, but the messages they are trying to get across is being heard across the globe.

Because of Anonymous and the internet, people, companies et al. are being thrown into a sort of spotlight for everybody to notice. Many of the things they point out, people are aware of already but they generally bring a larger scale of awareness to the table by employing these tactics.

The more people know about these things, the more that can possibly be done.

I won't get behind and back them with what they do, but I think it helps get people informed with all kinds of happenings.
1/23/2013 2:58:47 PM
dad3192 says:
If there truly is "dirt" on the Thunder Bay Police, then bring it forward. Enough with the stupid terrorist style videos....what's next, bound, gagged and blindfolded hostages? Seriously....
1/23/2013 3:17:45 PM
nivlacw says:
Anonymous (group)From Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaJump to: navigation, search Anonymous

An image commonly associated with Anonymous. The "suit without a head" represents leaderless organization and anonymity.[1]

Individuals appearing in public as Anonymous, wearing Guy Fawkes masks.
Formation 2003–present
Type Multiple-use name/avatar;
Virtual community;
Voluntary association
Purpose/focus anti-cyber-surveillance;
Internet activism;
Internet trolling;
Internet vigilantism
Region served Global
Membership Decentralized affinity group

See also: Timeline of events associated with Anonymous
Anonymous (used as a mass noun) is a loosely associated hacktivist group. It (is estimated to have) originated in 2003 on the imageboard 4chan, representing the concept of many online and offline community users simultaneously existing as an anarchic, digitized global brain.[2] It is also generally considered to be a blanket term for members of certain Internet subcultures, a way to refer to the actions of people in an environment where their actual identities are not known.[3] It strongly opposes Internet censorship and surveillance, and has hacked various government websites. It has also targeted major security corporations.[4][5][6] It also opposes Scientology, government corruption and homophobia. Its members can be distinguished in public by the wearing of stylised Guy Fawkes masks.[7]

In its early form, the concept was adopted by a decentralized online community acting anonymously in a coordinated manner, usually toward a loosely self-agreed goal, and primarily focused on entertainment. Beginning with 2008, the Anonymous collective became increasingly associated with collaborative, international hacktivism. They undertook protests and other actions in retaliation against anti-digital piracy campaigns by motion picture and recording industry trade associations.[8][9] Actions credited to "Anonymous" were undertaken by unidentified individuals who applied the Anonymous label to themselves as attribution.[10] They have been called the freedom fighters of the Internet,[11] a digital Robin Hood,[12] and "anarchic cyber-guerrillas."[13]

Although not necessarily tied to a single online entity, many websites are strongly associated with Anonymous. This includes notable imageboards such as 4chan, their associated wikis, Encyclopædia Dramatica, and a number of forums.[14] After a series of controversial, widely publicized protests, distributed denial of service (DDoS) and website defacement attacks by Anonymous in 2008, incidents linked to its cadre members have increased.[15] In consideration of its capabilities, Anonymous has been posited by CNN to be one of the three major successors to WikiLeaks.[16] In 2012, Time named Anonymous as one of the most influential groups in the world.[
1/23/2013 3:22:09 PM
myusername says:
Grow up. This isn't the real Anonymous. This is some lame Canadian offshoot trying to feed of the name and doing a poor job at it.

There is some awful brewing in Thunder Bay, the tensions are rising and there will be big fall out soon from the racial divide. The police are full aware. People are getting tired of the inequality, and I am not speaking of the Natives rights and treaties. I am speaking of everyone being punished for the past mistakes of the settlers and how it can't go on for much longer without a breaking point. Take a look at the US, and how they handle things. It's time to move on with the future and stop dwelling on the past.
1/23/2013 3:39:42 PM
RicknB says:
Inequality is still being perpitrated by the government. You need to read the Indian Act, its outdated and made to keep natives in poverty.
You are looking at the wrong people. You need to get angry with the Government and their policies not the people that they oppress.

Shaking my head at the uneducated!
1/24/2013 10:55:51 AM
hunnybunny says:
So i am assuming when they refer to the rape and attempted murder of "our indigenous sister" that this is an aborigonal in one article they are threatening police and in another they are trying to develop a better relationship with them. Rape is a hate crime against ALL women.
1/23/2013 3:58:54 PM
jb says:
well, you assumed wrong. Watch the video again, listen to what they are saying, read the transcript and then do a little research on what Anonymous really is. It's not hard to take some time and do a little research before commenting.
1/23/2013 4:22:22 PM
awalkingcalamity says:
Forget the Police. People need to be responsible for their own and stop blaming others for what isn’t being done. All finger pointing does is encourage irrational, useless behaviour. Words are far less powerful than individual action and I am sick of the negative demeanour our community has inflicted upon ourselves. If a crime cannot be solved it’s because there is not enough evidence, the Police can only work with what is discovered and crimes go unsolved because unfortunately everyone is not paired up with a babysitter for their entire lives.
1/23/2013 4:21:14 PM
mercy mercy me says:
going to need to assemble a task force and consultants post-haste to deal with this,also maybe a travel agent to book us a flight to a country with a 'no extradition policy'
1/23/2013 4:47:35 PM
myusername says:
Dig a little deeper. This "Anonymous Canada" has a facebook account made January 7 2013. There was already another "Anonymous Canada" which has obviously been around a lot longer. It appears this one was made solely with the purpose of opposing bill c-45 and supporting Idle No More along with other native protests.
1/23/2013 4:59:00 PM
westfortscum says:
Anonymous for those that don't frequent 4chan a few years back, is a group that would expose big governments secrets. Then the leaders got busted, and the group went into disarray, but then regrouped under a new banner. I think the newer anonymous is not as big picture as the old anonymous. The newer anonymous seems to look at smaller picture stuff like Thunder Bay or the shooting in that school. Seems to me that anonymous aren't as powerful as they once was but still hope they can reveal the truth about the missing native women. Anonymous sounds like the leaders change hands from time to time or it might be regional, but a youtube account will change because they are doing illegal things, so new videos may have a new account each time.
1/23/2013 6:17:12 PM
Lotus says:
I think ANON is wasting too much time digging around in "secret" files. This "group" can apparently find secret information and deliver "leaks" all to make a point, why don't "they" just come to Thunder Bay themselves and solve all these simple unsolved murders? More action, less talk.
1/23/2013 6:29:20 PM
yqt says:
Who showed "Operation Thunderbird" where the power button on the computer is?????
1/23/2013 6:37:06 PM
Armchair Tom Brady says:
Judging by this comment section, looks like you've all been TROLLED.
1/23/2013 6:39:05 PM
myspace_ says:
I support the TBay police, they do a tough job in tough times. Not sure why anonymous is so upset, so the case didn't get solved yet, I am sure that the police are devoting the same time to rape cases of white women, indigenous women, old women etc. They do not prioritise rape cases according to race our anything else.
1/23/2013 6:40:23 PM
blah blah says:
cj looks like you had nothing better to do than go back and like your own comment. Need to get out more
1/23/2013 6:45:20 PM
sailsup says:
Hey...maybe anonomous can find out who the thugs are that keep knocking off the Mac's while there at it.
1/23/2013 7:35:03 PM
Denthygmeech says:
pagirl says:
Reply to this comment.
What to you is a "real case"? Most of the murders have been solved, and quickly. There are only a handful of unsolved murders in this city.

Yes, like the Dove family we also have an unsolved murder. Remember Jason McQuaker. Thunder Bay Police have not been able to solve this one either. No one was charged with murder in this case. Thunder Bay Police have long forgotten about Jason they don't even list his murder on the Crime Stoppers website

Kip Hallow, Alma Teravainen, Sandra Johnson, Not just a handful to the families that have lost their loved ones!
1/23/2013 7:37:09 PM
et says:
seriously come on!! any rape is serious who cares what colour you are and what do you want all evidence and info they have pertaining to case be revealed so can be thrown out of court or make the preprators get away ..come on !!!
1/23/2013 7:41:23 PM
Dan Dan says:
First of all, this is a hoax.

Secondly, anonymous is just script kiddies in their parents basements.
1/23/2013 7:53:00 PM
dmrocs says:
Its funny how people are never happy with the pace of investigations. What happened to the women indicated in the article is horrible, but to suggest that the police dont care is stupid. The TBPD are busy dealing with a wide range of crimes in our community. None more or less important than the next. In the time it took me to write this response, another Mac's was probably robbed. There's a lot of problems in this town. Let the Police do their work.
1/23/2013 8:51:45 PM
spacko says:
Crime IS out of control in Thunder Bay, so this is probably a good thing for the city.
1/23/2013 10:02:40 PM
brooky says:
It's really mind boggling when some kids playing on their computer can generate so many responses.
1/23/2013 10:20:48 PM
downtownie says:
Do we not have Tech Police officers to see where the I.P address is located since it was on It's a Bully threat to our city police service.
1/23/2013 10:23:11 PM
Armchair Tom Brady says:
It's not that easy. They would have to request the IP from YouTube, and to do that they need a court order.
1/24/2013 9:11:11 AM
1788 says:
Then get a court order!
1/24/2013 11:27:25 AM
stuck? says:
again, it's not as easy as just calling somebody up and asking for a court order.

The privacy of thousands upon thousands upon thousands of people are tangled in that web and could lead to some interesting legal situations.

Not downplaying the situation but thems the breaks. Unless you live in the USA, then the government can play with you as they see fit.
1/24/2013 2:59:09 PM
passlake says:
"allegedly abducted"

whenever I read a story about this incident, the word "allegedly" is always in there... and it makes me wonder whether the police can actually prove whether or not this incident happened.

1/23/2013 10:28:09 PM
unionbay880 says:
Alleged = Innocent until proven guilty. This seems like someone trying to divert suspicion from themselves. Perhaps it is a ploy by the guilty person. Also "piles of worthless paperwork", don't the police use computers, these Anon. guys watch too much Hill street blues.
1/24/2013 8:19:05 AM
justaregularguy says:
i know of 2 young native girls that were victims last nite by white males....i say if you are angry do not take it out on vulnerable people....
1/24/2013 1:14:34 AM
Pagirl says:
No one said there were no unsolved murders, but that there are relatively few that are left unsolved. The importance of those few is not downplayed, but thankfully it is only a small number. I'm sure every city has their few lingering unsolved cases, unfortunately.
1/24/2013 2:48:14 AM
jetpowered says:
Anonymous gets the story out....they rely on hackers to do the dirty work for them. I hope the TBPS computer system is locked up tight!!
1/24/2013 8:45:29 AM
gerster says:
1/24/2013 9:32:49 AM
bttnk says:
Anonymous has been effective at pushing action, where there was inaction in many cases world-wide over the years. Can anyone honestly say with a straight face that there isn't racism toward native people within the police force? Where have you all been over the past several years? Just a few months ago the racist comments were inadvertently released from the police force. We all know this is true, now someone is threatening to release or expose the TBPD even more. That is the story here. Sounds like we'll see if this is all a bluff.
1/24/2013 9:54:24 AM
becker says:
The only thing the email from Tbay Police released stated was "Fresh Breath Killer was caught". Because there was mouthwash found at the scene. Am I wrong, or does mouthwash not freshen your breath? If the killer was white and this comment was made, nothing would be wrong would it? The fact that you are linking RACISM to MOUTHWASH, means that it is already on your mind that there is some sort of bond between the two. Nobody said it, but everyone thought it right away and called it racism. Pathetic how wildly that word is used, when people on here stated they do not support the Idle No More Movement, or that they did not agree with the roadblocks...they were called racists!!! The word is used as a scare tactic nowadays, if you dont agree your racist, if you do not solve a crime that has little to no evidence, your a racist etc etc. People like you are truly what is wrong with the world.
1/24/2013 11:32:16 AM
yqt says:
Operation Thunderbird might wanna look in the mirror and see who the real criminals are !!!!
1/24/2013 10:31:21 AM
mazda323 says:
Operation Thunderbird may also want to look in the mirror to see who the real racists are!
1/24/2013 11:44:34 AM
becker says:
I am going to go out on a limb here and just guess that NOBODY that is commenting on here is, or ever has been a Police Officer. Which would lead me to assume that they in turn, know ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about police work. There are unsolved crimes all over the world, the biggest and best Police Forces in the world have unsolved crimes, thats life folks. Unfortunately even if they have a clue of who the bad guy is, they require a little thing called EVIDENCE. You cannot go out and just slap cuffs on anybody because the victim said, "yup, thats him". They have to PROVE IT before even touching him. They stated the case has very little evidence, the victim herself stated the vague description. What makes you think that a crime like that can be solved right away? Sometimes the best officers still have to jump through bureaucratic hoops just to bring a case to court. The police in this town do everything they can with the resources they have and I believe they do a good job.
1/24/2013 11:45:25 AM
Tom Sanderson says:
In my opinion....I'm entitled to have one so I don't need any of the armchair experts telling me I'm wrong...look it up in the dictionary.

There is a transient population that moves through this city that nobody ever thinks about when a crime is committed. Pretty hard to solve a crime when there is no physical evidence. If you run with the wrong crowd and owe there are debt collectors that come and collect and leave town when the job is done.
All I see happening because of Bill c45 is the racial divide is getting wider. It's sad but it's true.
1/24/2013 12:19:15 PM
barry medawin says:
Yah for the hactivists!! Bring this corruption into the light my brothers ans sisters! The time to rise is now!
1/24/2013 12:20:59 PM
dad3192 says:
Just like December 21st came and went and the end of the world according to the Mayan calender didn't pan out, so too will January 28th.....
1/24/2013 1:13:05 PM
drdolittle says:
I'm sure the Thunder Bay Police will bust some weed dealers to distract attention away from this issue. It's a lot easier then doing real police work.
1/24/2013 2:11:21 PM
becker says:
I am pretty sure weed is still Illegal, which means, dealing weed is illegal, which means police busting them, is police work. Would you like for me to draw this out for you with a crayon? Or are you not that stoned yet and understand it clearly?
1/24/2013 4:35:00 PM
Tj says:
I think many people are missing the point of this video, they are standing up for the rights of missing and murdered aboriginal people because, unfortunately, many of them go unsolved for various reasons..but the numbers are too high and it has to be stopped
1/24/2013 2:12:14 PM
Jon Powers says:
becker :

"Unfortunately even if they have a clue of who the bad guy is, they require a little thing called EVIDENCE. You cannot go out and just slap cuffs on anybody because the victim said, "yup, thats him". They have to PROVE IT before even touching him."

The "Police" did just that in the cases of Guy Paul Morin, Steven Truscott, And also David Millgaurd.

Plus Many More!

I guess you don't consider the family of Cristine Jessop the person Guy Paul Morin was convicted of murdering "Wrongfully";

They want someone to answer for that crime.

Don't you!?

Too bad your government covered that one up too!

People like you and others at this site don't want to know what and where your taxes get used up.

The case of Guy Paul Morin cost Ontario Taxpayers over $25.Million.

Ontario spent $22.Million on your "Misstake By The Lake".

Don't hide your head in the sand!

Great Story!
Can't Wait To See What's In The Future!
1/24/2013 2:23:28 PM
Bigtime says:
Wow. Conspiracy theorist much? Also known as being completely psychotic. Glad to know that your opinion "matters" on tbnewswatch, but your senselessness need not apply in real life. Good reference to a past crime, I know how to use the internet too. So because there was a botched investigation, this puts a black spot on all other after right? I would love for people to answer for their crimes, including some of which I myself have been victim too. (car break ins, bike theft) however this is not always the case is it. Sometimes, the case goes cold and I really do not know what you and others are expecting out of this. If the police cannot prove it happened, or if they have a person of interest, if they cannot prove they did it. Then what? By your logic, I should be able to go out and say YOU assaulted me, and just because I said it, no proof needed, your under arrest. I am in the process off making you a map, at the end of this map, is a clue. I wish you best of luck in finding it.
1/24/2013 4:26:41 PM
dozerman says:
It is time to put an end to this comment page and this topic. The media is feeding the fire! The RCMP should be called in. If it isn't handled quickly it could only get worse. Who are the criminals now!
1/24/2013 2:30:35 PM
scarfly123 says:
Imo i dont really care who the anon group are, as long as they are bringing more awareness to the aboriginal women that are still missing I am sure the familys of these ladys are still looking for answers.doesnt matter which race you are i am sure you would want to know what happened and the more the people that are looking the better
1/24/2013 3:56:01 PM
Lotuslove says:
The "alleged" incident that took place in Dec has me highly suspicious. A 30+ woman was followed in a heavily populated area. She continued to walk while being "harassed" by the two men in the car which eventually led to items being thrown at her. At which point of time was she going to snap into reality and realize that this could soon be a bad situation?? How did she not see a whole or partial plate while being followed for some time. Why wouldn't she make her way to a house to report the incident with police after the racial slurs had been heard??? After being followed and assaulted by items thrown from the car the men then stop the vehicle. It makes me question this whole situation. As these men jump out of the vehicle, she made the decision to stand by and allow herself to be "victimized", instead of the obvious. RUN. There were homes all around her. Help available long before this allegedly turned really bad. Alleged assault is exactly what is it. Seems very suspicious to me.
1/24/2013 5:13:57 PM
billibie says:
Lotuslove...I think it is very suspicious. The whole story is just unbelievable.
1/24/2013 7:31:54 PM
northshore77 says:
Holy comments Batman!!!!
1/24/2013 8:49:39 PM
Tom Sanderson says:
The Spin Doctors are creating a lot of BS. Look at any city in Canada and there are unsolved crimes against citizens. Thunder Bay is no different than any other place. It is terrible that the people affected don't have closure and many of these crimes were committed before DNA became a tool.
PS barry The corruption is going to come to light.
1/24/2013 8:54:25 PM
Renegade120860 says:
Having to wait for the 15 second ad is worth it!

Here's your "Legion"!!!!! :)

1/25/2013 12:26:04 AM
moi says:
That is SO funny Renegade! Gotta luv youtube..
I clicked it on and watched it..thanks for posting it and giving me my morning laugh.
1/26/2013 10:15:21 AM
mazda323 says:
With all due respect to the families of those involved, I find it interesting that Anonymous is going on about unsolved murders of their indigenous sisters, yet, of the four unsolved murders in Thunder Bay, only one was an indigenous sister, two were male and the other was an elderly Caucasian female...
I'm not seeing any racism by the police here, considering that most of the murders in TBay involve Aboriginals, it seems they're doing a pretty fine job solving them. From what I read on the Crimestoppers cold case page, none of the unsolved murders happened in the last 20 or so I'd say the solution rate is pretty good, considering we're considered the murder capital of Canada.
Again, my condolences and all due respect to the families of Kip, Alma, Scott and Sandra.
1/25/2013 9:00:31 AM
Jon Powers says:

"Then what? By your logic, I should be able to go out and say YOU assaulted me, and just because I said it, no proof needed, your under arrest"

That is exactly what happend during Paul Bernardo's Reign of Terror.

Your Government convicted Anthony Hanemaayer of Agrivated Sexual Assult with a Weapon due to their reckless abandonment.

A Crime Bernardo confessed to.

Let's not forget the Dr Smith Affair with over 200+ cases for review.

After he lied in court numberous times; How Come He Still Is A Free Man?

When are you going to realize that your government is not accountable to you.

Great Story!

1/25/2013 2:17:46 PM
dad3192 says: the video, the "anon" mentions Steubenville. The legit anonymous group brought to light real evidence in a case in Steubenville Ohio, where a high school football team raped a drunken girl and posted the videos.
They did not threaten to rain down justice on the police department or anything else like that....
they brought forth real evidence of a crime that actually occured, and assisted the police in laying charges.
It's January 28th "anon"...where r u?
1/28/2013 9:59:26 AM
wayne says:
*yawn* it's the 28th and all kinds of dirt was going to be unveiled about TBPS. oh well, I suppose there are bigger fish to fry.
1/28/2013 2:51:38 PM
moi says:
So much for the supposed "leak of embarrassing info about the force and it's officers".
What a joke,what a laugh... did little timmy get his computer taken away by mommy?
1/29/2013 11:40:11 AM
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