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2013-02-11 at NOON

One man sent to hospital in multi-vehicle crash

By Leith Dunick, tbnewswatch.com
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One driver was sent to hospital with minor injuries Monday after a three-vehicle collision at the intersection of Junot Street and Red River Road. 

Thunder Bay Police said a man driving a white pick-up truck was hit, which wound up over a curb and crashed through a traffic light, suffered the injuries. 

"There was a southbound minivan that went through a red light and struck and eastbound pick-up truck. There was a red Pontiac Sunfire beside the pick-up truck. As a result the white pick-up truck went out of control, struck the light standard on the southeast corner of the intersection and did a lot of damage," Traffic Sgt. Glenn Porter said Monday afternoon. 

"The 80-year-old male driving the minivan was charged with failing to stop at the red light." 

Porter added drivers must take extra precaution in post-storm conditions, reminding them that the new LED traffic lights don't melt the snow away. 

"They're great, because they're a lot brighter, a lot more visible for a lot of reasons. However, in weather like this there's no internal heat source on them, so the snow doesn't get melted off as quickly as it did in previous years. So you have to pay attention. You can still see the light, even if it's covered up lightly by snow. But you have to be watching for it." 

Editor's note: This is a revised version of the story. Initially police said none of the drivers were sent to hospital. 

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lance says:
OMG....Learn how to drive!!
2/11/2013 1:09:30 PM
youngtbay84 says:
more like learn to adjust to road conditions.
2/11/2013 1:33:14 PM
Winter Victim says:
Unless both Lance and Youngtbay84 were in the truck or were first hand witnesses don't comment. There are so many factors that cause an accident and until we know them all you are just blowing hot air with no facts. Some times bad things happen to people doing everything right.
2/11/2013 1:39:03 PM
youngtbay84 says:
no i wasn't in the truck, but all accidents are preventable. its up to the driver to drive accordingly to road conditions and traffic. Its called being aware of your surroundings. How about you come to Calgary Winter Victim and dive on hwy 2 also known as deerfoot here. Then talk to me about driving. I've witnessed sooo many accidnets driving on that hwy all due to carless people being in such a rush to get to there destination and not caring whats around them. If you can't drive on that highway, you have to stay off of it unless you have a wish of something happening.
2/12/2013 10:03:42 AM
PAgirl says:
That's kind of an ignorant thing to say without knowing the cause of the accident. A lot of accidents are driver error, while some are not...
2/11/2013 1:41:29 PM
lance says:
I did see the accident so simmer down folks
2/11/2013 2:03:00 PM
TBDR says:
hmmm... i call BS
2/11/2013 3:42:23 PM
FrankieSaysRelax says:
Lets wait until more information comes out everybody. The way it snowed last night made it very difficult to drive. I'm just glad that I didn't have to be anywhere today!
2/11/2013 3:19:17 PM
Gord says:
ummm..... he ran a red light - end of story. I agree with the first and second post -people need to learn how to drive for road conditions. Just because it is slippery, that is no excuse to blow through a red light - SLOW DOWN if its slippery!!! I have had numerous close calls this year due directly to people not driving to road conditions - gets on my nerves.
2/11/2013 5:57:24 PM
North18 says:
All you people that made a comment about learning how to drive and adjust for conditions should go stick your head in a snowbank or just learn to shut up until all the facts are out. And for the ones that said they seen the accident, you just proved yourself to be a liar cause if you had actually seen the accident you would have wrote that a car ran a red light and hit the truck, not "learn how to drive".
2/11/2013 6:17:40 PM
codvx87 says:
I saw the accident and the only problem here is someone over 75 behind the wheel. Letting anyone that old drive is just asking to kill someone. I don't care that 1 in 100 still have their reflexes cause most of them don't and that's more than enough for me. 55+ should have to get tested every 2 years. (in b4 55+ people get mad at me)
2/11/2013 7:41:35 PM
conker2012 says:
Honestly I don't think testing is the answer for over 55, I think we should have a manditory refresher course every 10 years to remind us of the rules of the road, and how they have changed over the last 10 years.

Many of the drivers in this city no mater what age have never used an interchange, and do not know how to merge onto a highway properly. Also cars have significantly changed over the last 10 years and continue to change. Divers need to understand what the standard features do on their newer cars. Traction control was not on most cars 10 years ago and it pretty much standard on all cars now, but if you do not know how it works you cannot take advantage of it to protect yourself.

Young drivers should also be forced to take drivers school before they can get their licence. This program needs to include accident avoidance on a skid pad or closed road section for smaller communities that do not have the space or resources for such a site.
2/12/2013 9:31:17 AM
Dan Dan says:
The overwhelming cause of accidents in Thunder Bay is speeding. Speeding is completely out-of-control in this city. This is where I would like to see Thunder Bay Police focus their efforts.
2/11/2013 11:26:57 PM
razor_burn says:
Classic Thunder Bay drivers at their best. You're all pathetic drivers.
2/11/2013 11:41:01 PM
joey joe joe jr. shabadoo says:
You will only see a drop in accidents WHEN ONTARIO MAKES WINTER TIRES MANDATORY!



2/12/2013 8:58:51 AM
joey joe joe jr. shabadoo says:
...oh yea, I forgot to mention drivers here SUCK! Most drivers in Thunder Bay would cause a 10 car pile-up in a larger city...

MERGE DOES NOT MEAN STOPPING ON EITHER PART OF THE RAMP & OR WHEN IN THE "ACCELERATION LANE" & LOOKING OVER YOUR SHOULDER TO SEE IF ITS CLEAR, it means as you leave the ramp, you enter the acceleration lane.
In the acceleration lane, drivers increase their speed to the speed of traffic on the highway before they merge with it.
Signal and increase your speed to merge smoothly with traffic. Highway drivers should move over,
IF IT IS SAFE TO DO SO, leaving room for merging vehicles...
Whom ever is passing these new drivers needs to be tested themselves!
2/12/2013 9:10:58 AM
moonpie says:
Winter tires aren't going to stop someone from running a red light, just like seat belts don't stop someone from drinking and driving. If the accident was a result of road conditions you might have an argument, but it was the fault of carelessness.
2/12/2013 6:53:07 PM
FrankieSaysRelax says:
So, it turns out that Lance was right after all...It seems to me both PAgirl and Winter Victim owe him an apology, lol. The majority of comments here are utter nonsense. Red light, end story
2/12/2013 9:11:19 AM
lance says:
red light, knew it!!
2/12/2013 9:17:15 AM
jay-ded says:
I somewhat agree with codvx87 - but would like to add that every driver should have to go through a road test every 5 years. We seem to have forgotten that we are not ENTITLED to drive, and that maybe it is too easy to get a license. I think that every driver picks up bad habits. On top of which, I think that every person should have to pass a physical before getting their license renewed. Heart attacks waiting to happen, limited physical capabilities, etc. Unfortunately this practice would be labelled as discriminatory, when in fact it might limit the number of potential accidents, making the road safer for everyone (pedestrians included).
I do not think speed is the root cause of the majority of the accidents in this city. I do believe that the police need to start focussing on more infractions - it is just as illegal to drive too slowly as it is to drive too fast; it is illegal to turn in to the furtherest lane on a multi-lane street, etc.
2/12/2013 12:20:43 PM
mystified says:
What you are suggesting would be just another cash grab for the government. Watch what you wish for. There are enough user fees attached to things we use to do for free.
2/14/2013 2:49:29 PM
FrankieSaysRelax says:
joey joe joe jr. shabadoo you think winter tires for every1 are the solution?? Wake up!! speeding and not paying attention wont be fixed with winter tires, nice comment.....NOT!!
2/12/2013 2:28:12 PM
North18 says:
No, Lance was not right. Lance commented on this story way before the rest of the story was put on here about another car running the red light and hitting the truck. Lance put his comment on when all it said was the truck hit the pole. And Lance, if you "knew it" like you say you do, then why wouldn't you have told us the whole story from the beginning instead of lying and saying you seen the accident?
2/12/2013 3:04:46 PM
mystified says:
Some may have seen the aftermath of the accident but did any of you actually see the collision taking place? All the arguing over who seen what and who has the best solution to lessen the amount of accidents is venting. The problem in Thunder Bay is that it seems to be a drag race from every set of lights. As for merging onto the highway the drivers in this city don't understand that they are to pull into the inside lane to allow traffic to safely merge. They speed up when they see a vehicle trying to merge because they want to be first inline.
I say the police should get a few more officers on traffic duty and put the brakes on all the unnecessary speeding and erratic lane changing. Don't just enforce the laws in school zones but do it randomly all over the city. They can make a killing on people talking and texting while driving also. Accidents are preventable if you take the cause of the road by issuing big tickets.
2/12/2013 7:50:54 PM
razor_burn says:
Joey joe joe doesn't have a clue. Winter tires do nothing to prevent these type of accidents. Accidents like this are caused by stupidity. The same ignorance as people who think winter tires solves all winter accidents. All they really do is make bad drivers even more over confident and drive even stupider. Winter tires should be banned. We should have to drive on slicks. Then these idiots would be forced to drive according to the conditions.
2/13/2013 10:23:41 AM
blondwheeler says:
for jay-ded
Be careful what you wish for, there is a fitness test for driving I would be okay with you going through it as well. I have a medical condition and knew I required hand controls, but had to go through the test for someone to confirm it, by the way the cognitive test is part of it they won't separate it. Nothing wrong with my head it's my spine that is messed. I will give you the number - by the way when I took it 3 yrs ago it was $700, plus the $1000 to put the hand controls in my car (I also opted for extra lessons at my own expense). You really want to do this every 5 yrs, have at it....once is more than enough for me
2/13/2013 1:19:44 PM
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