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2013-02-19 at 13:33

Candid cameras

By Jamie Smith, tbnewswatch.com
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THUNDER BAY -- Police are looking into wearable cameras as a way to better protect officers and citizens.

For the past two weeks the Thunder Bay Police Service has been testing a body-worn camera that it hopes will one day be worn by every officer on the force. Insp. Alan McKenzie said while cars will also be getting cameras, wearing a camera means audio and visual capabilities will always be with the officer.

“It goes into the residence, into the liquor establishment, into the laneway, it’s always with us,” McKenzie said after a police services board meeting Tuesday morning.

The cameras would come out of the same $100,000 budget the force is using to install in-vehicle cameras.

The largest part of the expense would be storing information captured on the camera. An officer testing the device recorded about two gigabytes of data after just one shift.

McKenzie said they are already working with a data management company to figure out the best way to store the data and for how long. With police forces across the United Kingdom, U.S. and now even Canada, McKenzie said there are a lot of protocols in place to draw from.

The camera also acts as a GPS unit, and can be hooked up to an officer’s communication system. McKenzie said the whole point is making sure police interact accurate.

“This is protection of police officers as well as citizens. When they tell us something they want to make sure the information is accurate, they want to make sure we’re telling the true story,” he said.

McKenzie is hoping all officers are wearing the camera by the end of this year. 

 

 

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stuck? says:
Good idea. Maybe this can lend an eye to all of the shady incidents happening and give a proper testimonial on crimes and incidents being looked after.
2/19/2013 1:59:37 PM
The Badger Mountain Hermit says:
What took so long? Resistance?
2/19/2013 2:29:51 PM
sky high says:
No, it was the their budget that delayed getting the cameras. Budget, you know, that thing that you whine about every time some department or other gets an increase? You understand, don't you?
2/19/2013 2:48:10 PM
ring of fire dude says:
Oh Ya ...That seemingly bottomless pit called the Taxpayers .
2/19/2013 5:42:34 PM
Tbay99 says:
The city should sell the video to a TV network, it would be must-see TV!
2/19/2013 2:53:17 PM
passlake says:
look up a TV show called "Police POV" (I think it's on Action TV occasionally). It's exactly what you're suggesting. Officers from Baltimore (and a few other cities that escape my memory) wear "headset cameras" and they've turned it into TV.
2/19/2013 8:40:56 PM
sky high says:
That's a good idea. I'd love to tune in and see the guy I couldn't stand in high school getting busted for drunk driving or petty theft. Cops Thunder Bay, it would be an amazing show!
2/19/2013 10:12:21 PM
chezhank says:
This is excellent as it will refute false accusations by police personnel.
Case in point is the tragic death of Mr.Dziekanski,where officers involved are still awaitng perjury charges.
Is the $100,000 included in the capital budget of the police service,oh well even if it is not ,money well spent.

2/19/2013 3:00:44 PM
Baor says:
More likely refute false accusations by the public against the police.....eliminate the "he said she said" bs complaints that the police must endure.
2/19/2013 4:21:32 PM
tadzup says:
and will these be as "useful" as the eye in the sky, where they are so pixelated you can't make out what a person looks like, therefore it can't be used as evidence?
2/19/2013 3:00:48 PM
The Badger Mountain Hermit says:
Highsky...I bet the guys who have to wear them are doing most of the whining...finally, ACCOUNTABILITY. Something we now have TO WATCH THEM.
2/19/2013 5:49:55 PM
sky high says:
What a person like you doesn't understand is that these cameras will pay for themselves in no time, because our police force is forever tied up in court defending allegations of harassment and assualt. Now the cameras will show that an arrest is made and that these useless people are resisting arrest and fabricating. Lawyers will make less money, the cops can be where they are needed, and this is a great thing. You, however, would rather see the cops in court all the time and garbage lawyers making big bucks. Sad
2/19/2013 8:11:09 PM
trips says:
will the cameras be on during their time in robins or when they go for a little nap when working nights?
2/19/2013 6:34:11 PM
North18 says:
Actually Badger, from what I had heard, the officers are actually happy that they are getting these cameras to wear because they are tired of trying to help people and then getting accused of doing wrong in some way. Now they will have first hand evidence when these false complaints come in. And Chezhank, if you slow down and read the story it says right in it that the money is coming out of the budget that is already set.
2/19/2013 6:34:22 PM
chezhank says:
@North18
Which budget is that exactly....
I know the $100,000 is coming from the EIRP which I am you know was created to address the infrastructure deficit in the city.
But is the funding from EIRP being included in the cop's capital budget?
Who cares that council approved a particular item for the police budget which is not kosher,at least it will refute false accusations by police personnel.This may be better than the OIPRD and SIU.
2/19/2013 11:20:49 PM
joey joe joe jr. shabadoo says:
...just wait till the "smoking video evidence" goes missing in an important case...
2/19/2013 7:53:26 PM
gerster says:
Great Idea! We use these in all of our driver straining vehicles and it helps the Students go home and review their lesson. Cameras are a very useful tools that protect both parties: the student and the instructor!

It would be a great thing to see both point of views when it comes to "issues" while a police officer is in the field. It also make both parties be more "professional" if they know they are being recorded. No more "he said, she said", show me the video!
2/19/2013 8:32:42 PM
truthfulsmile says:
A police officer on duty once said to me that "there are too many cameras" . Perhaps the TBPS board should look into purchasing cameras with lens in every direction :)
2/19/2013 10:41:00 PM
Cletus Van Damme says:
Great, I finally decoded the 64 bit spread spectrum pattern on the new police scanners and now I need to upgrade to snoop on the body cams too! Oh well, it will be fun to watch and listen.
2/19/2013 11:13:48 PM
unheard says:
will they be turning them off on private property
pretty sure you can not be recording people with out their permission
2/20/2013 7:42:33 AM
debt collector says:
Actually, it's not illegal to record someone in Canada. All you need is one parties consent and since the police officer knows he's recording that would satisfy the court.

Tape recording your own conversation is legal in Canada and admissible as evidence in court.

Consent to interception

183.1 Where a private communication is originated by more than one person or is intended by the originator thereof to be received by more than one person, a consent to the interception thereof by any one of those persons is sufficient consent for the purposes of any provision of this Part.
1993, c. 40, s. 2.
2/20/2013 11:21:43 AM
The Badger Mountain Hermit says:
Gee...I never realized local cops are "forever tied up in court defending allegations of harassment and assault." Wow, amazing when the cops get in trouble, it doesn't seem to get reported in the "news". Or maybe, you just a FIBBER for the FUZZ.
2/20/2013 8:57:40 AM
Bigtime says:
The more I read from typical people on here, the more I realize how psycho you all are...really.
2/20/2013 12:00:18 PM
blue says:
My only hope is these cameras are used to pinpoint the most common causes for their wasted time and this is acted on, not just recorded and forgotten about.
2/21/2013 10:29:23 AM
karcat says:
well since they want these cameras, then they should also use these on city workers to see if they work there proper shifts, like an 8 hr day
see if we get our taxpayers money,s worth,ty
2/23/2013 11:25:18 PM
countryboy123 says:
Sounds like a good idea but apparently there have been Charter challenges to the use of these cameras already. Basically you don't have the right to a "reasonable expectation of privacy" out in public but you certainly do in your own home. By using their cameras in your home, if no crime has been committed, they could be considered an infringement of Charter rights. As well, I suspect interactions that incriminate officers will be "accidently" deleted, they may "forget" to turn the cameras on, or use the old standby "my battery died"!
2/24/2013 1:30:32 PM
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