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2013-02-20 at NOON

Fund to expire

By Jeff Labine, tbnewswatch.com
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Policing in many Northern First Nation communities are about to feel a financial squeeze.

The Nishnawbe-Aski Police Service, which services more than 30 First Nation communities in Ontario, could be losing eight per cent of its police force after the federal government announced it would be letting its Office Recruitment Funding expire in March.

The $400 million was established in 2008 as part of the federal government’s tough-on-crime agenda with the intent of recruiting more than 2,000 officers across the country.

But with the loss of that funding, police forces are scrambling to find ways to pay for their additional officers.

NAPS acting chief Bob Herman said the cuts mean layoffs could threaten as many as 11 officers.

“It was a one-time funding that the federal government announced, but I think if you look at the impact of putting more police officers in the communities, especially within the First Nation communities, the government can’t fall back and say this is a one-time funding,” he said.

“They went down this path and they have to seriously look at it and continue the funding. There’s a number of options to us. We would look at attrition within the police service and our deployment. We need those officers. We can’t afford to lose them. Layoffs are an option but I’m not sure we’re there yet.”

Herman argues the cost of renewing  the funding over the span of five years isn’t a significant amount for the federal government.

But Herman said there’s a bigger problem on the horizon.

The First Nation Policing program hasn’t had any contributions or increases from the federal government since 2009. NAPS has 150 officers and received $1.2 million from the recruitment fund to cover the salaries of those officers.

Other officers are funded through the province or through other programs offered by the federal government.

But the cuts in funding may force NAPS to look at how they police the First Nation communities.

“The reality is we cannot staff some of our communities now on a 24-7 basis,” he said. “There’s some communities where we don’t have police officers in most communities for days at a time, or even weeks at a time. This is just going to make it much more difficult for us to do it.”

But NAPS isn’t the only police force in this area that’s about to feel some fiscal sting. The Thunder Bay Police Service received between $160,000 to $170,000 to cover the salaries of two first class officers.

With the elimination of the funding, the police service will reduce its 227 uniform officers.

Deputy chief Andy Hay said when two officers retire, they won’t replace the positions.

“We had two officers who were hired as a result of that program and they were put into our beat patrols,” he said.

“What we’ve done is realigned our resources internally so we do not have to cut those beat patrol positions but we will be cutting two other positions internally within the organization to accommodate those two officers staying.”

Hay added that the police service doesn’t have the money in its budget to cover the salaries of two officers and the Police Service Board isn’t recommending an increasing.

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Sailsup says:
Please take a moment to google. " A sacred calling". It's a 5 minute documentary about NAPS officers. It will open your eyes to what is really going on.
2/20/2013 1:07:52 PM
stuck? says:
I'm not pointing fingers here but, did you even watch the documentary? It's well over 5 minutes long....
2/20/2013 1:52:28 PM
stuck? says:
Also, my apologies as there are multiple "versions" of this.... the longer one is directly on the NAN website, while a shorter version is floating youtube (which is what I first saw and promptly called you on, which was my mistake).
2/20/2013 1:54:39 PM
Glyder says:
I am sure they will raise taxes to pay for it. It's what they do here in THunder Bay, so why should it be any different anywhere else?
2/20/2013 2:05:37 PM
chezhank says:
$36.2 million police budget out of property taxes of $159.6 million (22.7% of property taxes)and you don't have enough money in the budget......to make Thunder Bay the Murder Capital of Canada to which you can do nothing about.....throwing good money after bad.
2/20/2013 2:06:21 PM
SomeGuy says:
A little google will go along way before you post. NAPS patrols 35 first nations communities up north making up 2/3 of the province. Only their headquarters are in Thunder Bay the don't police here.
2/20/2013 8:25:15 PM
sailsup says:
No apology necessary stuck? ...I actually watched both versions a long time ago. I know many NAPS officers and I am VERY aware of the conditions that they work in. They are trained at OPC the same place as ALL other officers in Ontario. They have the same credentials and are amazing men and women. They however deal with horrible conditions. Many times they work alone. They are paid less than OPP and have more responsibility ...If anyone is so inclined ..please watch the full length 18 minute documentary ..A Sacred Calling ....
and Chezhank....this isn't about Thunder Bay Police...NAPS is a seperate police service, as are all Police services.
2/20/2013 3:04:38 PM
chezhank says:
Okay,you should take up policing!
2/20/2013 6:11:06 PM
mazda323 says:
Hank, the police do not prevent crime, they investigate after the fact and bring charges against the guilty party(s). If crime is so easily prevented, as you seem to think, by all means, get out there and do your part to prevent it! Perhaps if our citizens would quit drinking, stabbing and murdering one another, the police budget could go down. It would also be nice if our court system would grow a set and start throwing some of the losers in jail instead of handing out probation after probation after probation...
Until that happens, be prepared to pay for the police to INVESTIGATE crime and bring charges in an attempt to make our city safer. You want to play the blame game? Blame the court and the judges, they're the ones who keep letting these losers out on the street to reoffend again and again.
2/20/2013 4:38:37 PM
random says:
Why blame the courts when it is so much easier to blame an entity constantly in the public eye? Not like you see judges running around seeing things first hand. Not like they ever have to answer to anything.
There are a select few that post here that would blame the police even if it rained when it was forecasted to be sunny. Why, even the police announcing cameras on all the officers got automatic responses about the police no longer being able to make false allegations, not members of the public!
False allegations occurr almost daily in our city, but not once have I seen one by the police, and even if there are, they are punished whereas those in the public are rarely if ever held accountable!!
When you only have one drum to beat (crying about the police budget), it only goes to show you really have no ligitimate complaint about the performance of the police.
mazda323 nailed it.
2/20/2013 5:01:30 PM
chezhank says:
@random
When I get a call asking to help someone who was stabbed because emergency services would not take that individual to the hospital....I have issues.
Even having the constabulary wear cameras does not mean that the videos will be available to refute false allegations by them.
Case in point: read the following link:
2/20/2013 6:56:44 PM
brooky says:
Sure there are corrupt citizens in all walks of life. But linking a 7 year old story from Saskatoon hardly supports your theory regarding our local cops. Surely you can do better than that. (yawn)
2/20/2013 10:22:49 PM
random says:
Yes, I looked at your link. So what. Do you seriously think that would happen here, with all the accusations being thrown at police, all unsubstantiated, but treated as fact? Even if it does, the involved officer would be held accountable, no if's and's or but's. To assume our police would intentionally dispose of, or "lose" evidence of that value, is the same as me saying ALL members of the public lie and file false allegations against police. No difference. You can't have it both ways you know.
And again, it isn;t money being thrown at police, it is coming out of an existing budget, to pay for something people have called for for years, and you still make it out to be a bad thing. The ONLY way you will have the level of policing you want is to have a "Minority Report" type system.
I'm all for accountability, but when you condemn something even before it is implemented, it really does show your true nature/agenda. Even you have to agree with that.
2/20/2013 10:24:28 PM
chezhank says:
@mazda323
And you think throwing more money at the police again will get different results this time around.........okay!
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2/20/2013 6:27:35 PM
jonthunder says:
If NAN First Nations are pleading for and demanding better and humane policing services and nothing changes - where is NAN?
2/20/2013 6:30:50 PM
6913 says:
Most of the NAPS road access communities can be policed by OPP as well as APS communities in the south.
2/20/2013 8:31:31 PM
yup says:
There is only about 4 drive in communities....what about the other 30?
2/21/2013 11:56:34 AM
ruralmedic says:
"The Thunder Bay Police Service received between $160,000 to $170,000 to cover the salaries of two first class officers. With the elimination of the funding, the police service will reduce its 227 uniform officers."

227 x $750 = $170,250..

each officer salary reduced by $750 covers the cost of these 2 officers.. crazy, eh?
2/20/2013 9:48:57 PM
mazda323 says:
Hank, you should learn to read. Nowhere in my post did I mention "throwing more money at the police again". I think the police do a bang up job. It's the courts who keep letting people walk when they have no business being out that eats up the $. How many times have we seen "breach of probation" as one of a long list of charges, most times more than once. If they were in jail where they belong, the police would be freed up. Certainly you're not that daft that you can see that, right? If you don't think that's the case, you can visit the Ontario court any day of the week and see for yourself. You need to find a hobby, sir, you've got too much time on your hands.
2/20/2013 10:05:47 PM
one girl's opinion says:
You keep telling people they need to learn to read - maybe the problem is you can't express yourself correctly!!! Too much time on his hands oh those who live in glass houses go back to the coffee shop sir!!!
2/21/2013 10:27:00 AM
razor_burn says:
Hahahahaha. Not a single one of you as a clue what you're talking about. No common sense at all. Thanks for the laughs though.
2/20/2013 11:51:54 PM
bottleneck says:
Judging from the number of people agreeing with Mazda323, it doesn't appear that he has a problem expressing himself at all. If you don't agree with him, that's fine, feel free to post your opinion and debate if necessary. You however, seem to have some sort of imaginary vendetta against him, what's up with that?
2/21/2013 4:07:23 PM
Mazda323 says:
There you go assuming again, one girl,tsk,tsk.
Both you and Hank have attributed words to me that weren't mine, you even put yours in "quotation marks", haha. Now, I have no problem being quoted, as long as it's accurate, and if it's not, you're darn right I'm gonna call you on it. Judging from the number of people who agreed with my post here, it appears that only you and Hank are having a problem comprehending what I said. You should work on that.
2/22/2013 7:00:25 AM
one girl's opinion says:
You are insaine i did not use quotation marks -and those who have so much excess time usually spend it logging on to agree with themselves - how sad utterly sad - your friends at the coffee shop will also agree with you i'm sure - just another day saving the world from your sofa.
2/25/2013 9:30:20 AM
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