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2013-03-04 at 13:57

Sit in continues

By Jamie Smith, tbnewswatch.com
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It’s been a week since a group of Lakehead University students began a sit-in protest and they don’t plan getting up until their issue is resolved.

Students set up camp near president Brian Stevenson’s office last Monday to protest the university’s decision to change a course in the faculty of law.

Originally a full-credit course called Native Canadian Worldviews taught through the faculty of Indigenous Learning, the course was reduced to a half-credit on Feb. 15 and renamed Native Canadian Worldviews and the Law.

“The names are similar but the objectives of the course are fundamentally different,” sit-in spokesman Sebastian Murdoch-Gibson said Monday morning.

Students argue that instead of using Aboriginal moral philosophy to analyze institutions like the country’s justice and economic systems, the course will now look at the legal system and try to find Aboriginal perspectives within it.

When the university made its application for a law school, part of why it was accepted was because of the emphasis on Aboriginal philosophy and how it could be applied to the legal system.

Nishnawbe Aski Nation, which was a big part of getting the law school application approved, supports the student protest.

“We feel there’s a great deal of legitimacy added to our movement,” Murdoch-Gibson said of NAN’s support.

The lens shift was enough to have at least three students occupying a lounge area at the university full-time. Murdoc-Gibson hasn’t left since the protest began. The students even have an air mattress to sleep on.

“We’d all like to get this resolved but we have no intention of leaving,” Murdoch-Gibson said.
The students say relations with administration have been good. Their intention is not to interrupt the work day but get attention and raise public awareness. The university has even been providing the students with coffee several times a day.

Lakehead media relations director Toby Goodfellow said the university is actively pursuing means to resolve the situation but couldn’t elaborate on what that meant.

“I can’t speak to that except that the provost is working with the dean and the president to try and resolve the situation,” he said.

The students are holding a rally outside of the university library on Thursday morning.


 

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tadzup says:
This is absolutely ridiculous. I don't throw a huge fit and protest because every course I would like is not offered at a local university. Do any of these people protesting even plan to attend this school?

If you haven't left the university in a week in protest for something that doesn't have anything to do with you, please get off the couch and get a job. Do something productive with your time.
3/4/2013 2:33:01 PM
jest4fun says:
This has nothing to do with a course not being offered. It has everything to do with the university getting funding based on the offering of one program... and then once funding was approved, altering the program and not living up to the spirit of their funding request.
3/4/2013 10:16:30 PM
cm punk says:
In a meeting with new Aboriginal affairs minister David Zimmer Coun. Aldo Ruberto said the city was heralded as a leading example of Aboriginal issues in the province. Ruberto said it’s frustrating that national media has given the city a black eye when relations have never been better.

“Obviously the people that did the interview had an agenda in mind and it was to make Thunder Bay look bad because our relationship with First Nations is probably the best it’s ever been,” Ruberto said.

This article sure does not strengthen Ruberto and his argument that things are good and rosey.
Anyways, LU law school is getting bad press and most likely not looked upon in a positive light over this. The Dean is trying to give the new law school a good rep and then this stuff happens.

The school year will end in a few weeks and exams will start. I doubt this will have any fire left in it.
3/4/2013 3:28:17 PM
Sinjo says:
These type of students will not know what to do in the real world when they get into the workplace. Idealistic views on life dont always transfer to real world. Im sure your future boss will definately put up with type of rebellion if they ever pulled this. Future head of Elementary Teachers Federation maybe.
3/4/2013 4:15:29 PM
jest4fun says:
Looks like LU admin is trying a runaround... apply for funding based on one thing, and then once approved... change the curriculum.
3/4/2013 4:25:48 PM
Delbert Grady says:
Id be pretty embarrassed if my kids were that lazy. Luckily the whole up and coming generation still has a few that realize the way to get things isn't to throw a temper tantrum, then sit there and pout for a week or more.

These people's parents must be pretty disappointed. If they aren't, then theirs probably were.
3/4/2013 4:45:50 PM
ranma says:
Welcome to the real world kids. It's about time you learn that you do not get what you want, even if you fight for it.
3/4/2013 5:58:27 PM
tadzup says:
Why are you not posting the comments not in favour of this ridiculous strike? Your bias is showing.
3/4/2013 6:03:43 PM
Blue says:
" Aboriginal moral philosophy". Please would someone explain this.
3/4/2013 6:59:16 PM
hadenough says:
Fish broth for everyone!
3/4/2013 7:03:38 PM
TB4life says:
cut power to the outlets their using to charge their phones and they'll move along
3/4/2013 7:54:38 PM
razor_burn says:
Kick these children out of there and let people who actually want to make something of themselves go to school. Pathetic!
3/4/2013 8:04:09 PM
Mazda323 says:
Hadenough, you kill me!
3/4/2013 8:54:38 PM
dman31029 says:
Hmmm, "I'm in University so I have to protest something. And I can stay warm inside? I'm in. What are we protesting?...Oh really? Well I guess I'll still show up.|
3/4/2013 10:16:43 PM
Fluffy says:
I wouldn't want to leave either sitting in that comfy looking couch.
3/4/2013 10:59:15 PM
ring of fire dude says:
So this is what happens to out of work Idle No More demonstrators .
3/5/2013 12:12:01 AM
ecostatik says:
(above comments)....says the people who never took the course before
3/5/2013 12:19:06 AM
DGN says:
Again, I see so many negative comments about what these young people are doing. I admire what they're doing. This is not "sitting and pouting" as so many of you are saying. This is what we should be doing about the changes to CPP and EI. These students have the right idea, if what the administration (perceived or not) is wrong, try to change their ways. Its better than the alternative, doing nothing.
3/5/2013 8:41:45 AM
Delbert Grady says:
Negative comments? All I see is negative students. (see how that works?)

Now, if someone doesn't like the changes to EI or CPP, Id say if they want to do something, they should start buy ensuring that they always have a job. Choose a career that gives you the person the ability to work anywhere. A trade, a skill, anything that applies to you, not to your employer.

Next, if you are worried about CPP, how about saving for your future? How about taking the personal responsibility to ensure you look after yourself.

I know that's pretty difficult, but one thing I can say for sure.. sitting around on a couch crying for others to cater to your needs will only get you nowhere.

If these people are there to better themselves and prepare to enter society as a prosperous member of the workforce, they aren't going to achieve it sitting around on a couch all day looking like fools.

Employers like me pay attention.

3/5/2013 9:09:23 AM
student21 says:
Ignorance from uneducated, toe-tapping people is embarrassing for the entire community. Get your head out of the gutter and realize the world we live in. Good luck Sebastian (Whom I know personally). You have my support!!!
3/5/2013 9:03:35 AM
The Badger Mountain Hermit says:
How's the fish broth taste?
3/5/2013 9:06:39 AM
conker2012 says:
Wow a special interest group that isn't actually looking to make a buck off of the protest. I actually support this protest because it is for a cause that does not make anyone money. WE all know teachers and that idle ethnic protest were both about $ not an actual justifiable cause. Even though this protest will not change a thing because LU doesn't care what students want or need (heck they don't want to even compete with Laurentien). All they care about is pumping out teachers into the unemployment line and building their southern ontario campus.
3/5/2013 9:25:09 AM
Shine0n says:
Just to clear some things up. For those telling us "kids" to get a job. Most of us are mature students who work full time and attend night school. Those of us who are full-time students, thankfully share in our passion of Aboriginal issues. We're all still attending class and work, by the way.

For those saying we're throwing a tantrum: Since when is protesting throwing a tantrum? Were women suffragists, Ghandi or MLK throwing tantrums? There are two types of people in world, leaders and followers. These are the type of people who are our future leaders. Who don't simply "do what they're told because that's what society says." Who ask questions instead of accepting things as is. ANY leader past, present or future possess a quality of making CHANGE from what is considered the norm.

If you don't know what "aboriginal moral philosophy" is then take the dang course! I implore you to enroll. Then make an EDUCATED decision on the topic because I guarantee your opinion will change.
3/5/2013 10:08:54 AM
feduptaxpayer#1 says:
People like you whiners should just learn to take your lumps and accept the status quo! Anyone who doesn't do what their betters tell them is a sissy, liberal/socialist whiner who should get a job and stop wasting my taxes!
3/5/2013 7:16:51 PM
young&concerned says:
Sitting on a couch, receiving hand outs (ie coffee's)and demanding change... so fitting!
3/5/2013 12:42:37 PM
Shine0n says:
We've done radio interviews, planned a feast and information session, liased with leaders in the community, and we are continuing to do more to raise awareness. We are not simply "sitting on a couch and receiving coffee". It is obvious that you simply read this article and now insist that you know everything that has gone on in relation to this topic. I've said it before and I will said it again: Please, gather all information before you rush to judgment about what we are doing/not doing.
3/5/2013 1:24:05 PM
blue says:
"If you don't know what "aboriginal moral philosophy" is then take the dang course! I implore you to enroll. Then make an EDUCATED decision on the topic because I guarantee your opinion will change."
It would be pretty sad to have to go to University to understand moral philosophy. Also please do not infer that anyone who speaks out against this kind of meaningless protest is un educated. As for mature students "start acting like one"
3/5/2013 1:16:34 PM
Delbert Grady says:
I too like how these lazy folks always scream to "educate yourself" meanwhile they are the ones who are paying the university to give them an education.

They fail to understand that many of us are light years ahead of them.
3/5/2013 3:32:49 PM
Supporter says:
Letters and information about this particular protest are available on their Facebook page, or if you are so inclined to have a strong opinion, you can receive the facts in person by showing respect and asking the protesters what's happening.

I'm a graduate of LU and generally embarassed by the institution. I am employed and busy taking care of my family and I make the time to stop in and visit with the protestors. Sometimes its on the couch and sometimes its walking around the school, sometimes its in the Agora at a drum ceremony.

They are standing up for something very important. These students are the future leaders, they are working hard to attend classes, maintain their lives and provoke change. All in a days work. I admire their tenacity.

The problems with this change in curriculum are many and it starts with common regional issues: consultation, future planning, and respect.

Lazy is not a word that crosses my mind when I think about what is happening here.
3/5/2013 1:22:25 PM
jest4fun says:
To everyone saying these students are lazy, that their parents should be ashamed, and all the other negative comments... so far the students have conducted themselves honourably.

Unlike some labour organizations who cannot come to an agreement they have not withdrawn services, prevented access to facilities (remember when there were picket lines at LU); there have been no violent confrontations, no rock throwing and no blockades.

A peaceful protest is a commendable course of action considering what the alternatives could be.
3/5/2013 3:19:34 PM
Dan Dan says:
These students are studying to become lawyers. However, they have chosen to protest via sit-in instead of using their other methods available to protest under the system. For example, they should be arguing their case to the senate. You would think future lawyers would jump at the chance to argue a case instead of drinking coffee for photo-ops.
3/6/2013 10:06:20 AM
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