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2013-12-05 at 17:22

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While there is still no timeline on when the James Street Swing Bridge could re-open to vehicle and pedestrian traffic, it will be at least another three months before the Canadian National Railway moves forward on any repairs.

Fort William First Nation Chief Georjann Morriseau met with CN officials Thursday to discuss the current state of the bridge that has been closed since late October after it was damaged by fire.

Although it was a positive meeting, Morriseau told TBT News there is still no concrete decision on when the bridge could re-open to vehicle traffic.

The chief said the company is waiting on a consultant's report before moving forward on repairing the structure.

"They don't anticipate receiving that for at least another three months," she said.

The company did mention pedestrian traffic could be allowed again "soon," added Morriseau.

In the meantime, Morriseau said she has reached out to Thunder Bay Transit to see about getting more buses to the community and she anticipates another meeting with CN.

"We need to maintain that dialogue,' she said. 

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tom0066 says:
3 Months?? Really? Just tear it down and build a new one...we don't need a bridge that will allow boats anymore. This is just ridiculous!!
12/5/2013 5:48:34 PM
Tbay99 says:
Brace yourselves taxpayers, city council will now likely spend millions on a new bridge.
12/5/2013 6:01:30 PM
Bigtime says:
Well, thats what your tax dollars are supposed to be spent on you idiot. Roads, bridges, infrastructure etc. Choose your battles, you can't complain about wasted tax dollars on marina park art etc, then complain about when its used for what its supposed to be used for.
12/11/2013 10:12:55 AM
Luxe says:
And soon there is going to be a death at the intersection of Chippewa Road and the highway. People are just merging without checking the speed of oncoming traffic and then doing 50km's all the way to Arthur Street, and others are turning off the highway onto Chippewa Road cutting off oncoming traffic. I have been slowing down to 60 and flashing my lights constantly as I approach the intersection.
12/5/2013 6:07:04 PM
unknowncronik says:
Take all the proper time needed to do a proper job. Rushing now to suit convenience would only hurt in the long run.
12/5/2013 6:39:25 PM
Rock49 says:
The way CN has maintained that bridge throughout the years has always been a disgrace. This is yet another slap in the face to Thunder Bay and First Nation residents. They have an agreement with the city for traffic to cross that bridge. If the rail service was to stop, see how fast they would fix it.
12/5/2013 6:43:37 PM
jimmyboy says:
3 months which will turn into more like 6 guaranteed...
12/5/2013 6:45:34 PM
Who-cares says:
I love it. Pedestrian traffic soon!
12/5/2013 8:18:18 PM
humnchuck says:
Attn. tbnewswatch: Are the terms as set out in the contract between the city and CN available publicly? It would be interesting to see what obligations actually exist in this situation.
12/5/2013 8:53:10 PM
anvil of crom says:
the screwing up continues!
12/5/2013 9:51:58 PM
spinme says:
I say barricade! If we can't go over it - why should the trains? If this bridge, that has been deemed safe and sturdy enough for trains to go over several times a day since 4 days after that fire back in October, why on earth is it going to take 3 more months to determine if they should start fixing the vehicle part of it? This is affecting businesses on both sides, the kids going to school, people's commute to and fr work. My KMs have almost doubled in a weekly commute. Hey CN, I want've been pretty silent throughout this whole thing. I realize it's "your" bridge, It is in everyone's best interest to get this done and you're not "getting on it". What happened to weeks? 3 MORE MONTHS? How long are you going to have your vehicles run and have someone man each side of the bridge 24/7? I can't believe everyone is just accepting this as the way it is...It only takes 1 person to start something...
12/5/2013 10:17:27 PM
brooky says:
LOL..Welcome to the real world where contracts exist.
12/5/2013 10:58:34 PM
donnybrook says:
The city and FWFN have had 100 years to think about building another bridge across the river. Like everything else in life, people only want their voices to be heard when a situation becomes an inconvenience for them. Leave it to the last minute, then panic.
12/5/2013 10:47:43 PM
young&concerned says:
Hobbs stay out of this!
We the taxpayers are NOT funding a new bridge!
12/5/2013 10:57:14 PM
conker2012 says:
Just so you know the bridge connects the city to the city.

Both sides of the river within thunder bay, Coastal steel, McAsphalt and everything north of city road is part of Thunder Bay. The road is the boarder. So it actually would be the city's responsibility if a new bridge is build. Now if FWFN were to kick in say half of the money then it wouldn't be such a bad deal.

The problem is removing the dependence on CN and the long delays from the rail crossing.
12/6/2013 11:03:35 AM
S Duncan says:
If the bridge connects city to city property then what business is it of Georgann's?

Thunder Bay citizens dont tell them how to manage their property so why are they telling us how to manage ours?

Theres a perfectly good road to use.

What's the problem?
12/6/2013 3:35:22 PM
moi says:
..and I see the one post that was critical of chief Morriseau was promptly removed from this thread.
"" Good to know the chief reads the comments posted here,and hopefully understands that CN will be the ones(NOT the FN's or the city) to make any decision regarding the bridge.I agree with the point that mystified made--CN owes nothing,to no one and doesn't have to justify any decision it makes.
12/8/2013 9:16:58 AM
Mystified says:
CN owns the bridge and can be held liable if someone is injured if CN said the bridge is ok for vehicular and pedestrian traffic
Suck it up people. CN doesn't owe you anything and can take as long as they want to fix the bridge. CN is in the freight business and doesn't give a damn about vehicular traffic.
12/6/2013 12:48:12 AM
Neebing1414 says:
agreed.. and they have been wanting to stop vehicle traffic crossing the bridge for a long time now.. and heres their chance so get use to it people.. and get use to highway speeds not 50.. your going to cause an accident and hurt yourself or someone else
12/8/2013 10:26:42 AM
spinme says:
My point is simply this. CN is not giving us any answers. Have they determined what happened? Why are they doing what they are doing? Why is it going to take so long to determine to start working on the bridge. Originally, it was just suppose to take a few weeks for this "consultant's report" before they start working on it - now it's going to be at least 3 months? Seriously? Both sides of the bridge do deserve more answers at the very least...and the fact that it's "their bridge" is not an acceptable's just simply not. If any of you want to accept it and just be complacent - live your life like that....I don't accept it.
12/6/2013 7:10:47 AM
moonpie says:
What do you plan to do about it then other than post your objections here? CN doesn't have to give you any answers. I'm sure they will at some point as a good gesture, but they're not obligated to. "Both sides of the bridge" now have the opportunity to think about how they're going to help themselves rather than stand with their hand out waiting for CN to help them.
12/6/2013 11:12:00 AM
Idontknowitall says:
@ Punk. How about a little respect?
12/6/2013 7:28:43 AM
Papercut says:
Just a thought:

How long would this bridge be allowed to be shut down if it were the main artery to get to a place like River Terrace for instance?????

I think it would have been demolished and a new one in place by now;-)
12/6/2013 9:02:02 AM
tbay99 says:
Hmm I sense some River Terrace Envy!

...And just a fyi residents in River Terrace pay some of the HIGHEST tax rates in the city so you should thank them rather then brush them all off as if they are entitled snobs.
12/6/2013 12:17:22 PM
arjay says:
there is a national group called "IDLE NO MORE", they could perhaps provide a little assistance?
A new Bridge off Mountdale, is long overdue!!!!!
12/6/2013 10:19:30 AM
favpal says:
Racism aside as a "younger" native woman paying taxes happily on this side of the bridge im lacking the understanding of why a new bridge isnt or has not been built a long time ago or started our taxes keep rising no matter what and so y not get somwthing worthy of paying in conjunction with fwfn that bridge was scarry to begin with but 3 months my gosh someone is going to have loss of life at the Chippewa I tersection slow down ppl lifes to short to rush and ppl have children in their cars
12/6/2013 11:06:06 AM
Neebing1414 says:
or speed up and don't cut the people off on the highway going 90+ and stop driving 50 on a highway! people that do that are going to cause an accident
12/8/2013 10:33:18 AM
basic smarts says:
lets get CN RAIL to fix it they MUST have insurance on the bridge !!! what ever happened to the lady that fell though the bridge a while back??? did she ever get any money for falling though the bridge ??? nevered herd any thing...( ARSON )INSURANCE would cover the fixing of the bridge.!!! SO GET ON IT CN RAIL !!! OR MAYBE I WILL PARK MY TRUCK OVER THE TRACKS ON JAMES ST TRACKS ..
12/6/2013 12:01:02 PM
whatelseisnew says:
I for one am glad that CN is standing their ground on keeping this bridge closed. Lets all remember for a minute that this is a CN train bridge and that's exactly what it is. Why should CN be in any sort of rush to repair the vehicular area of the bridge when it really was just there as a favor for the last 100 years. I do not see the problem with using HWY 61 and Chippewa Road as access as well as Mountain Road. As for people crying that it "takes longer" or "its adding more mileage to my car" is a very weak defense. CN givith and CN taketh away.
12/6/2013 12:05:57 PM
DougMyers says:
Where have you been?

It is already established that they have a contractual obligation to remain open to public vehicular traffic. That was part of the deal in having the bridge that is built on city owned land.

It was not a favour (not favor), it was and is an obligation.

My guess is they are testing the waters to see if they can push it long enough to just do away with it quietly.
12/6/2013 1:05:40 PM
joks says:
I think CN is just playing a waiting game. The longer they delay, the more chance it is that the city will kick in money to fix or build a new bridge letting them off the hook for providing vehicle access across the river.
12/6/2013 12:29:35 PM
rootbear says:
something's screwwwy here...heheheheh
12/6/2013 12:38:50 PM
papercut says:

The tax rate is the same for all residences. You pay that rate multiplied by the home value. So inferring that one neighbourhood pays a higher rate is decieving.

PS....I pay just as high taxes where I no envy on my part.
12/6/2013 2:49:33 PM
RantingRespectfully says:
This is not surprising. This is usually what happens; the city hires a consultant, and nothing happens for months. Then they instantly decide( without getting the public opinions, or they do, but suddenly get amnesia or go deaf)to spend millions of taxpayers money on something we do not need.I am being optimistic here, but I hope that they decide just to tear down the bridge, and rebuild a better, safer bridge. I think that would be the best decision, and probably the cheapest,because of what it might cost to repair. At least money would be spent on something useful for once!
12/7/2013 5:56:20 PM
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