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2013-12-11 at 14:29

Ontario crackdown on contraband tobacco not working, study concludes

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Despite pledges to crack down on the problem, there has been no improvement in controlling the use of contraband tobacco products in Ontario.

That's according to the Ontario Convenience Stores Association, which points to the results of a recent province-wide study. 

Association CEO Dave Bryans says data was compiled by an independent firm that studied cigarette butts collected at several locations in each community studied.  And he says the numbers show contraband usage is about the same as in two similar studies conducted over the past five years. 

Bryans says at about 21 percent, usage levels in Thunder Bay are average for the province. 

But he adds that the 28 per cent level recorded at one city high-school studied -- Hammarskjold High School -- points to an alarmingly high level of usage among students. 

Bryans is calling on the provincial government to follow through on promises to give our police enhanced powers to deal with the contraband tobacco problem.


(Thunder Bay Television)

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ring of fire dude says:
"That's according to the Ontario Convenience Stores Association," .... What an completely unbiased report , brought to you by the Mac's in your neighborhood that is robbed on a weekly basis . (roll eyes)
12/11/2013 3:22:52 PM
dynamiter says:
Where do you think these smokes are being sold? What do you think would happen if somebody decided to raid these stores? What do you think would happen to the businesses if they specifically came out against the stores? Do you think that they would be put under heavy pressure. That is why they use their association to raise the issue.
The only difference between smokes and the underground OXY trade is that OXY is much more addictive and lucrative. Big Pharma produces it, Pharmacies fill the prescriptions, Doctors prescribe the stuff. 1+1 + 1 = what? Why cant the government track this stuff? It doesnt want to thats why. Violates individuals rights if they made Doctors and patients account for all of their OXY pills. The same for smokes. Big tobacco produces it. Suppliers buy and distribute it. Government is supposed to collect the taxes from the local distributors. Maybe it is about time to collect the tax at the source ( with no tax exemptions or tax free zones anywhere for anybody).
12/12/2013 1:23:11 AM
yqtyqt says:
That's because there is no effort by the government to stop it.

Contraband tobacco is dangerous to say the least. It escapes the taxes that pay for the health care system that pays for the resulting problems.

But if the government deems them untouchable for voting reasons, then we know the outcome.

No spine, again, from the governing party.
12/11/2013 3:24:29 PM
brooky says:
Cigarettes are so heavily taxed because of the high addiction factor, not for the health costs. Easy money for the government. With your way of thinking, there should be a $2.00 surtax on a big mac.
12/11/2013 10:34:58 PM
yqtyqt says:
Brooky, I'm talking about contraband smokes. The stuff you buy in a plastic bag. No tax on that crap. And no plans by the government to put a stop to it. In some southern Ontario locations, the vendors defy the cops to step in.

But a fat tax on Big Macs. Yes, if people want to live a life of gobbling down fast foods and end up with diabetes, heart disease, etc. I have no problem taxing the daylights out of the companies (McDoods, KFC, etc) that are making millions off their artery clogging food.

This government is running out of ways to feed their spending addictions. These are easy decisions to raise revenue if you ask me.

Now if the tax revenue raised from these sin taxes aren't directed towards the necessary health care items, get in touch with your MPP.
Tell him to get the auditor general to look into it. If you leave it up to the government, it won't get done.
12/12/2013 9:06:23 AM
tiredofit says:
Ontario Convenience Stores Association, a self server entity, nothing more. While I agree that tobacco should be taxed accordingly, it's no different than heading to the Rez for cheap gas. It boils down to them (Mac's etc who are no doubt charge huge fees by the association) compiling about loosing profit. It has nothing to do with health and welfare of the individual.

I haven't smoked in 15 years, but if I was, I too would be buying them on the Rez... a carton there is $30.00-$35.00, at Mac's you'd be lucky to get 3 packs for $30.00-$35.00. People are stick and tired of being taxed on everything in this province and will get a break where ever they can, just like those who shop in the US. It's an addiction, you don't see the Ontario Convenience Stores Association doing anything to help with that are you.
12/11/2013 7:34:58 PM
yqtyqt says:
"I haven't smoked in 15 years, but if I was, I too would be buying them on the Rez" So therefore you're saying that you don't want to be taxed to support the health care system when you need them for some disease from smoking. Well if I knew that, I would tell the health care system to instruct you to go fly a kite.

"People are stick and tired of being taxed on everything in this province and will get a break where ever they can, just like those who shop in the US." I suggest you contact you local MPP and tell him exactly that. People are taxed to the max. Its gov't overspending that has created the higher taxes.

Many Libs on this site don't understand the connection between out of control gov't spending and out of control debt & taxes. We've all become slaves to the gov't. We work to pay for their spending addictions.

But I do understand you frustration. If you need you MPPs phone number its readily available. Call him.

Please don't shop in the USA. It kills Cdn jobs.
12/12/2013 9:47:27 AM
fluffy says:
I don't smoke but you can't blame people for buying contraband smokes and stogies. Much cheaper. Boo hoo for the tax income for them.
12/12/2013 3:23:10 PM
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