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2013-12-16 at 15:19

Winter woes

By Matt Vis, tbnewswatch.com
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Winter weather conditions remain treacherous on area roadways as more snow began to touchdown Monday.

The conditions of at least one area highway even became deadly before this recent snowfall. The OPP responded to 46 motor vehicle collisions on Sunday, including one fatal single-vehicle incident on Highway 17 near Shabaqua.

John Lackey, 55, of Keswick, Ont., was pronounced dead at the scene of where the pickup truck he was a passenger of rolled over just one kilometre from Finmark Road.

The 27-year-old driver of vehicle, which was travelling east, was taken to Thunder Bay Regional Health Sciences Centre with non-life threatening injuries.

OPP Const. Diana Cole said it was a busy day for officers.

“I believe weather was a factor. It was snowing on Saturday and Sunday with blowing conditions and the roads became quite icy, causing a lot of vehicles to go into the ditch,” Cole said.

“The past week we’ve had cold weather conditions which has caused the roads to become icy and frost covered. People are driving at the same speed thinking it’s a bare and dry highway when it’s really not.”

Highway 61 was backlogged for much of Sunday afternoon when the roadway was closed near Mount Forest Boulevard due to a two-vehicle collision.

A southbound pickup truck lost control and slid into oncoming traffic where it struck a northbound sports utility vehicle. Four people were taken to hospital, and the driver of the pickup truck was ticketed for crossing the yellow line. A male involved in the collision remains in hospital in critical condition. 

Southbound traffic was backed up from Chippewa Road all the way to the Neebing Avenue and Princess Avenue intersection leading into the Thunder Bay International Airport.

The highway havoc extended into Monday with snow continuing to fall.

The OPP reported seven more motor vehicle incidents early in the morning, with the Thunder Bay Police Service saying they were responding to more traffic calls than normal.

Conditions were not much better on Monday as the snow began to fall again late in the morning. Environment Canada predicted that as much as 10 centimetres would accumulate before Monday night.

City and provincial police were responding to more motor-vehicle collisions throughout the day, but exactly how many collisions have been reported remains unknown at this time.

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starbright says:
We live in Northern Ontario. Drivers need to slow down and give room when stopping.

People who have 4X4 trucks also need use the same driving technique. Just because you have a 4X4 doesn't mean you stop any better then a car. A 4X4 is good to get going. Our SUV is better at times then our 4X4 is.
12/16/2013 3:56:58 PM
ngb says:
I hear people complain about 4 x 4 trucks all the time, but what I noticed yesterday was people in tiny little sports cars driving way too fast and zipping from lane to lane. As a matter of fact, one just about rear ended me because they were going too fast and couldn't stop when I started slowing down to leave lots of room between me and the vehicle in front of me.
12/17/2013 9:20:28 AM
Dockboy says:
Slow down everyone, conditions are that bad.
12/16/2013 4:11:12 PM
Papercut says:
Yeaterday I was EIGHT vehicles off the road and in the ditch between the Neebing Roadhouse and Beaux Daddy's (aprox 1 mile section)! My co-worker said she saw TEN vehicles off the road. To say this section of road is trecherous often times in the winter is an understatement. It was sheer black ice.....all the way to chippewa road intersection where it magically became free of black ice and traction was available once again.

I have called the MTO on a few occasions about this strech of road and how it is often dangerous to drive....... if you feel the same way contact the MTO local office (road maintence divison) 473 2000. Perhaps they can put some extra attention on this area to potentially stop further accidents.

Also....I fully understand that "SOME" of these could be caused by driver's exceeding conditions, but come on....not all are.
12/16/2013 4:17:38 PM
RelaxinginMurillo says:
Perhaps to save on sand (not the price of sand, but rather on having the driver go all the way back to the depot to refill) they only sand intersections and curves. Someone at MTO needs to "up" the standards for contractors a wee bit more.
12/16/2013 11:36:05 PM
Neebing1414 says:
I drive that section of highway daily and found that there was some icy sections but mostly it was not bad.. so why people were in the ditch could be driver error (driving to fast, texting, ect)

as for it being to dangerous to drive I can say I was out driving it during our big snowfall in April where the city was shutting down and did not find it that bad as long as you slowed down.. its not dangerous people are

slow down and you will survive winter driving
12/17/2013 6:34:05 PM
Arch Stanton says:
Yes - there were already seven vehicles off the road at 3pm Sunday on just that one short section of HWY61, including the serious one between the SUV and Truck, to which the emergency services were still responding - and it is a straight piece of road(!)

Never seen anything like it in 10 winters here...
12/16/2013 4:34:23 PM
tsb says:
This winter has definitely been exceptional. We have more snow on the ground right now than we did at any time last year, and it isn't even officially winter yet; we've got three full months of potential snowfall to go!

Slow down out there. And don't forget to brush the snow off your vehicles. Driving in this is hard enough, having to follow a blizzard on wheels just makes bad conditions worse!
12/16/2013 8:57:52 PM
rootbear says:
sorry but my truck box is full of snow, just don't follow me so close.
12/17/2013 12:23:20 PM
Neebing1414 says:
will not feel bad for you when you get a ticket for being lazy
12/18/2013 11:20:22 AM
pub27 says:
Ok here we go, it's all the roads fault, not all the professional drivers of tbay....
12/16/2013 7:46:20 PM
Ranma says:
The roads are just being taken care of. Drove the expressway tonight, ALL the intersections are sheer ice. It was awesome driving 60 on the expressway to ensure I could stop in time for the lights. And, all the traffic was doing the same thing.

How many more people need to die up here before something is done about the condition of our roads in winter.
12/17/2013 12:26:04 AM
gravitysdepth says:
“I believe weather was a factor. It was snowing on Saturday and Sunday with blowing conditions and the roads became quite icy, causing a lot of vehicles to go into the ditch,”.

Typical... Officers can't make up their mind. One minute it is a speeder so they "MUST" ticket them. The next there is a car accident due to winter roads (not negligent driving)... Therefore it must be road conditions? WTF. The intellectual properties that are exhibited these days are truly astounding and may make for a great fairy tale one day.

Funny I am driving a smaller car (front wheel drive), all season tires and passed this same spot moments earlier. The road or weather is not at fault - The drivers are at fault; stop looking for scapegoats.
12/17/2013 12:41:17 AM
livewire says:
I believe the MTO should STOP using their liquid de-icing method and switch back to salt & sand. The liquid takes about 30 minutes to activate but in the time frame it is like driving on oil. Plus it also plays destroys on your breaks .
12/17/2013 7:29:18 AM
bluecollar says:
On my way down Hwy 61 we counted 14 vehicles in the ditch from the 15th side road to just past the Correction Centre.
12/17/2013 8:04:51 AM
unfortunate says:
Complain all you will about the conditions being a factor. The main reason is you cant fix stupid

It's just really bad they hurt innocent people
12/17/2013 8:18:47 AM
SMB says:
...And turn on your headlights! I've never lived in a town where so many drivers go about without their lights on!
12/17/2013 8:21:36 AM
joey joe joe jr. shabadoo says:
If your running summer tires here in NWO thru the winter months,

then the ditch is what you get every time.





12/17/2013 8:48:43 AM
Pussycat21 says:
I totally agree with Papercut! I was one of the first cars in the ditch Sunday morning. I could clearly see the roads were scary bad and adjusted my driving for the conditions, unfortunately the truck that slid sideways into my lane perhaps didn't, I cannot say for sure. He ended up hitting 2 other vehicles.
My defensive driving kept him from hitting me, but I still ended up in the ditch.
FYI, I saw absolutely no sand on the road at all.
While waiting for the police, I witnessed numerous cars still continuing to drive fast and unfitting for the conditions!
12/17/2013 9:04:27 AM
ken1 says:
People! Try snow tires or even studded tires and slow down.
Save fuel and perhaps a life.
12/17/2013 9:05:11 AM
Macy says:
My husband went to the border yesterday and came home with a sparkling clean vehicle....no salt!!!!
12/17/2013 11:43:07 AM
rootbear says:
and you thought texting in summer was hard?
12/17/2013 12:21:15 PM
mazda323 says:
Funny, I went to the border Monday morning and come home with a vehicle covered in salt. I also came home alive because I adjusted my speed to the road conditions, which were horrible. But the plows were out and the road was being maintained as best that it could be under those circumstances. It's not July and the road conditions reflected that, it's too bad the driving habits of the drivers didn't! Can't count how many vehicles passed me, even one minivan on a curve. And yes, there were MANY vehicles driving without their lights on in what were, at times, white out conditions.
Slow down, put the damn cell phone down, turn your lights on and pay attention. If you can't do that, you've no business being on the road.
12/17/2013 2:39:14 PM
Blain says:
Why cant people in this city ever take responsibility for their actions instead of ALWAYS blaming others. If you drive into a ditch, its because you cant handle your vehicle....NOTHING else.
12/17/2013 2:48:29 PM
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