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2014-02-05 at 11:27

Mac's robbed

Mac’s Convenience/ YouTube
By Leith Dunick,

A man wielding an axe held up the Mac’s Convenience store on Waterloo Street overnight.

According to the company, the suspect entered the store (see video below), produced the weapon and demanded money from the register.
The employee complied and the suspect fled.

Police say the suspect is an Aboriginal male, standing between 5-foot-7 and 5-foot-9 and weighing between 160 and 170 pounds.

The suspect was wearing a dark leather jacket, dark pants, white and black shoes, gloves and a dark ski mask.

The incident occurred at about 6:30 a.m.

Anyone with information is asked to contact the Thunder Bay Police Service, phone Crime Stoppers at 1-800-222-8477 or submit a tip online at




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Organized Krime says:
I'm sure this would cost a bit more, but if the camera quality was better to where they could actually distinguish a persons facial features would make it easier to track these misfits down?
I payed around $150.oo/ea for my wireless security cameras that have better quality than this...

Didn't macs get the best Security award?

2/7/2014 10:26:03 PM
just a country girl says:
I agree with the old days you didn't know if the counter clerks had a gun or other weapon behind the counter. Counter clerks should have its a bat, pepper spray, stun gun, or better yet a real one!! Or like they do in the states....when a corner or convenient store is robbed the clerks hand out marked/ink stamped cash mixed in with the rest of the money!!!
2/5/2014 11:01:24 PM
Glyder says:
Yeah, give the clerks real guns, then the robbers will resort to real guns, then people get killed...cashier, bystanders, etc. YEah, good idea.

Do you honestly think a clerk is going to say no to a robber over $50 and some smokes? Give it to them and live to see another day. If someone wants to be a hero, that's their choice. But, you never know what someone is willing to do to to not get caught, so really, why chance it.
2/7/2014 9:44:11 AM
GRJ says:
It is very unfortunate that people have such issues, and that their last resort is to commit such acts. This being said, you have no right to judge others. You have no idea the lives they have lived. Nobody wakes up one day saying "hey, I'd like to be a drug addict" or "hey, I think I would like to suffer from mental illness". The very last thing people like this need is your judgement. Maybe instead of putting your energy into writing pointless posts on this website, you should do some research on mental health and addictions. Whining and complaining doesn't help the problem. Advocating for better resources in this city for people suffering from mental health and addiction problems is what needs to be done. Ever wonder why there are so many Methadone clinics popping up everywhere, because the Dr's are making a killing on it. Maybe instead of pushing more drugs on an addict...they should push for rehabilitation and therapy/counselling. Upstream thinking people...
2/5/2014 9:53:32 PM
Gerald Landry says:
Bravo Kyla & glass half full Mol is failing workers,
Mac’s Inc. will build 27 new “ultra-modern” convenience stores and create 170 new full-time jobs across Ontario within two years of being granted the right to sell alcohol
The new stores would represent $54-million of new, private investment in Ontario, Tom Moher, the company’s vice-president of operations for Central Canada, said in a speech
“That doesn't begin to include the millions of dollars Mac's will spend retrofitting our current stores for the sale of alcohol," he said.
Start retrofitting then to protect workers. And Kyla Ps. Glass Half Full, I send the MOL to investigate Mac's every time a worker is physically injured during a robbery...
There is possible emotional trauma also which can cripple a person from normal function in society. They don'y have to do a tour in Afghanistan.
(15-03-02) Traumatic Mental Stress
Oct 12, 2004 - Workplace Safety and Insu
2/5/2014 5:05:40 PM
Harvey P. says:
Mac's is like an ATM machine with a weapon as a debit card.....
I gotta find some other place to buy my snacks.
2/5/2014 4:19:43 PM
Kyla Turner says:
Ps. Glass Half Full, I send the MOL to investigate Mac's every time a worker is physically injured during a robbery...

This failure to protect workers stems from a broken chain of accountability for health and safety, perpetuated by internal responsibility expectations which rely on an employer's assessment of risk within their own establishment. When an employer does not adequately analyze the risk of injury to workers, violent incidents result. These violent incidents indicate safety measures are not adequate and require reassessment. When reassessment after reassessment fails to prevent violent incidents from occurring we must conclude the chain of accountability is broken.

At least this conclusion seems obvious to me... I'm hoping that by making repeated official complaints to the MOL, it will become obvious to the employer that higher safety standards are necessary :)
2/5/2014 3:33:39 PM
Kyla Turner says:
Love your comment Glass Half Full...

Yasir Naqvi, Minister of Labour, responded to my concerns in a letter stating, "The ministry seeks full compliance with the law by all workplaces subject to the OHSA. Ministry inspectors assess workplace health and safety through targeted inspections. When they find contraventions, they will order employers to comply."

While this is true, ministry inspectors assigned to investigate Mac's Convenience Stores cannot make prescriptive orders requiring the employer to have 2 staff working midnights, or to install barriers - even if they want to - because inspectors cannot order employers to comply with regulations that do not exist.

Employers are merely expected to take all reasonable precautions for health and safety of the worker (OHSA Section 25.2.h). Vague terminology in the Act and a reliance on the employer to interpret their duty to take "all reasonable precautions" results in continued violence and occupational injury in this industry.
2/5/2014 3:14:42 PM
Kyla Turner says:

If the Shell was robbed I haven't heard about it. Link please?

The point if a barrier is not to eliminate robberies- it is to protect the employees from physical injury during robberies. However, target-hardening often reduces instances of crime, so a reduction in robberies would likely result from the installation of barriers.

Have you actually been reading my posts? If you had, you might notice I am not merely advocating for barriers at Mac's Convenience Stores....
2/5/2014 2:43:57 PM
Glyder says:
It was the other shell on RRR, on the corner of Clarkson opposite the Beer Store. They have also since put in a late night window. Justsaying had the wrong one. :)
2/5/2014 3:10:58 PM
taekat says:
I have said this before - Ontario needs to do what BC has done (Grant's Law) - which is make a law that forces these stores to run with locked doors and prepaid gas during the late night and early morning hours or if there is only one employee. Customers would pay through a sliding drawer along the side of the building if they wanted any in store snacks or items and would have to pre-pay for gas at the pump or the window.
2/5/2014 1:33:03 PM
unknowncronik says:
Whats needed is INSTANT 6 MONTH(minimum) of instant jail time for robbing ANY store before the judge sentences you for your crime!

This insanity needs to stop before someone gets KILLED over a few lotto tix & some smokes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2/6/2014 9:15:05 AM
taekat says:
Jail time increases would cost way more then updating these convenient stores with the after hours outside pay windows. If the government was to choose between an increase in jail times for robbery or pass a law similar to Grant's Law and help with funding for renovation they would choose the latter and I would support there decision.
2/9/2014 8:48:05 AM
Kyla Turner says:
Mystified continued:

Employers who neglect their duty to take all reasonable precautions for the health and safety of their workers may be facilitating the opportunity for robberies and assaults to be perpetrated on their vulnerable workers. Failure on the part of employers to apply reasonable situational crime prevention measures can lead to poisoned workplace environments of violence and fear. As Yasir Naqvi, Minister of Labour, responded to my concerns on September 11, 2013, “Every worker has the right to return home safe and sound after every work shift.” Because I feel this right is being ignored by Mac's, I will continue to push for more prescriptive regulations in the OHSA. Because I feel my proposal for a buzzer- barrier system is reasonable under the circumstances, I have urged Mac's to follow Shell’s example and ensure there is an even level of protection in this industry.
2/5/2014 1:28:38 PM
Kyla Turner says:

I believe that by following responsible business practices and employing appropriate safety measures, Mac’s has the ability to benefit society by contributing to a reduction in crime and improving the safety of their employees.

Mac's must acknowledge their operations are generating substantial strain on police resources and take appropriate action. Private sector "victims" often claim crime prevention is a police matter and shrug off their duty for the control of crimes specific to their operations.
2/5/2014 1:27:24 PM
glass half full says:
I think our city has lost the right to have Macs / Shoppers / Gas Stations open for business at all hours of the day.

Ministry of Labour has to get involved.

The Labour Act States. An Employer must provide all reasonable precautions in circumstances for the protection of a worker.
Section 25 2 (h) in the Act.

There are other sections that also could apply.

Why is the Ministry of Lobour not intervening? When some one gets injured or killed the MOL should be held accountable for not ensuring the safety of workers.

The MOL runs around handing out orders to large companies for guarding issues, failing to sand walk ways, failing to have training records, no safety plans, no posters on the wall among other common easy to write orders. When has Macs been paid a visit?

This is a clear health and safety issue for the workers.

2/5/2014 1:18:46 PM
keep it real says:
yup, give out more free needles to the poor innocent junkies in the city cause we all know that has nothing to do with the amount of robberies.
Things happen ... that is true but most adults deal with things. I was tought to deal via a boot in the ass and guess what?
I learned there were consequences for my actions ... I deal with things just fine and without drugs or booze!
If it looks, acts and smells like garbage, chances are it probabily is wether your bleeding heart wants to believe it or not

2/5/2014 1:13:40 PM
Kitten25 says:
No one grows up thinking "I want to be an addict when I grow up!". Things happen, trauma happens, life happens. And, it happens to people from ALL walks of life, not just "the wrong side of the tracks". Nice to know we live in a town that refers to our lost ones as "pieces of garbage". I can see what an advanced society we are! :P
2/5/2014 1:01:17 PM
Glyder says:
You're right, but people also grow up learning about the inherent risks associated with doing drugs.

We are not an "advanced society" because we are getting tired of being robbed? People who have to get their next fix don't have a problem putting fear into their victims. How would you feel if I came up to you brandishing an axe and demanding money?

Would you stand up to me and offer me a hug? Or would you quake in fear and beg me not to hurt you? I would suggest it would most likely be the latter.

These people are threatening others with violent assault. Why should we put up with it? And have sympathy and compassion for them to boot? Give your head a shake.
2/5/2014 1:18:47 PM
Eastender says:
When you threaten someone with an axe, which ia a death threat, what should we call you?
2/6/2014 12:09:17 AM
mystified says:
ring of fire dude meds?
The gas station across the street from the Red River Rd. Beer store has an after hours window and a Lexan barrier around the counter to protect the worker.
There is nobody to blame for these robberies other than the person doing it. It is no fault of the business that they target.
2/5/2014 12:52:48 PM
Kyla Turner says:
I recently sent my concerns to city council, requesting our Municipality’s intergovernmental liaison advocate for a better standard of protection for late-night retail employees in Thunder Bay, and across Ontario. Councilor Ken Boshcoff and Mayor Keith Hobbs are on this Intergovernmental Committee and have agreed to bring my concerns up during their meeting this month...
2/5/2014 12:44:37 PM
Kyla Turner says:
Ontario does not currently have a specific “working alone” regulation, or prescriptive regulations for late-night retailers. I am hopeful that as awareness of this issue increases, more individuals will step forward to support my call for a review of the Occupational Health & Safety Act and the development of prescriptive regulations which will ensure an even level of protection in this industry.

Mac’s operates a network of more than 5900 convenience stores across North America, and their Thunder Bay locations have experienced by far their highest rate of crime in Ontario. If anything is ever going to change, I think it must start here, in our city.
2/5/2014 12:43:19 PM
thunderbaycouncel says:
these low lives who rob these stores walk away with less than $100. Just enough to get their fix. Pieces of garbage, their parents or kids are very proud.
2/5/2014 12:37:43 PM
Kyla Turner says:
When two similar workplaces conduct independent risk assessments, we expect both to implement similar safety measures as a result. However, this is not the case. In our city of Thunder Bay, Ontario there is a 24hour Mac’s Convenience Store located across the street from a 24hour Shell Station (888 Red River Rd). To protect their lone midnight employee from physical violence during late-night robberies, Shell has recently installed a counter barrier inside of their store. Alternatively, Mac’s ignores the protective benefit of this type of engineering control and refuses to install barriers, leaving their vulnerable employee exposed to the risks inherent in this industry. These two employees can see each other across the street during their midnight shifts, and it disturbs me to know this gross disparity is commonplace across Ontario.
2/5/2014 12:36:02 PM
#justsaying says:
and didn't that Shell get robbed in October Kyla??? Get all your facts correct when you decide to go on a mission of what you think is he best solution to stop these robberies.

You've posted letters before that you sent to Mac's Head Office, have you done the same for Shoppers Drug Mart and Boston Pizza???
2/5/2014 1:12:56 PM
pylon says:
You missed the point of her post completely. The idea of the barrier is to stop the attack not the robbery. Who cares about the till $ when you can prevent the potential for assault that's the point of an enclosure.
2/5/2014 6:56:25 PM
really???? says:
they really need to start having hourly police patrols at all macs at night
2/5/2014 12:31:58 PM
coffeshoppolitician says:
Macs' robbery incidents should have their own section on this website by now. Maybe with a digital counter.
2/5/2014 12:31:10 PM
blackbay says:
Glad Nobody was hurt!
2/5/2014 12:19:36 PM
ThunderBayIceCaps says:
How awesome is it that Mac's has their own Crime Busters logo?
2/5/2014 11:58:35 AM
cariboukid says:
Dude, why are you so negative all the time?
Macs getting robbed has nothing to do with trying to enrich our city.
2/5/2014 11:58:12 AM
anarnosti says:
It's not even just at night any more... Shoppers and Macs are getting robbed in the middle of the day! it's pathetic. Enough is enough.
2/5/2014 11:57:51 AM
deluxecustom says:
Looks like a guy in a black coat wearing a balaclava holding an axe. Hope this helps!
2/5/2014 11:53:14 AM
ring of fire dude says:
From syringes , knives and now axes , it's getting scary out there at night . But once the Events Center and Art Gallery are built , these criminals will receive a healthy dose of Urban culture and will stop their plundering almost immediately . (cough,cough)
2/5/2014 11:48:09 AM
TBDR says:
As soon as you add Events Centre and Art Gallery to a comment about crime, you automatically lose all credibility. The policing budget is well funded so this is not about dollars spent on capital projects. Anyone who knows anything knows that these robberies are about drug and alcohol addiction.
2/5/2014 12:03:16 PM
AnonymousOne says:
I've Always wondered what would happen if the workers refused to give the thief the money. Workers are trained to just do as they ask. If someone said no, would they have got hit with the axe? I really think people working at these stores should be able to defend themselves via. Baseball bats or something similar, but apparently that is against the law.
2/5/2014 8:42:19 PM
AndersonSilvasLeg says:
Coming from working in the customer service environment (specifically Shell), I can't agree any more.

ALTHOUGH, the safety of the employee is up to the employers and they would be 100% liable if their employee was hurt; something they don't want to happen which will lose them MORE money than the 50$ and a few packs of smokes.

Its really sad that they can't spend a bit of money to bring added safety to their employees though. Rather, it's easier just to risk a life and give away some petty cash.

Thumbs up Macs.
2/6/2014 7:03:38 PM
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