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2014-02-21 at 10:04

Digging out

City residents are breaking out heavy equipment to aid in snow removal after Friday
Matt Vis, tbnewswatch.com
City residents are breaking out heavy equipment to aid in snow removal after Friday's dump
By tbnewswatch.com

City crews continue to dig Thunder Bay out from Friday morning’s winter storm.

Snow removal crews began clearing arterial roads at 2 a.m. and then had to give them a second pass around 8 a.m. as snow continued to fall.

That means most residential streets won’t be touched until the afternoon, with city roads division manager Brad Adams explaining most of those streets will only see plowing on one side.

With crews only doing one sided plowing, Adams stressed the importance of residents following calendar parking restrictions. He expects it will take the next few days to get everything completely back to normal.

“It’s going to take us pretty well all weekend and possibly even Monday to get all residential streets open,” said city roads manager Brad Adams.

The city crews are using their full arsenal of 22 graders, nine truck plows and three loader plows to get as many roads cleared as quickly as possible.

For residents, this is their second straight week digging out from a significant snowfall.

This winter storm was created by a system heading north from Iowa absorbing a similar system that has heading towards Thunder Bay from the Ontario and Manitoba border.

Early estimates indicate that between 15 to 25 centimetres of snow has accumulated thus far with more yet to come, according to Environment Canada warning preparedness meteorologist Geoff Coulson.

“It looks like on radar there is still plenty of snow in Northwestern Ontario,” Coulson told CKPR Radio.

“This system is going to continue to move north of Lake Superior later on (Friday) but snow is going to wrap around the western side of it for the rest of (Friday) and into the overnight hours as well.”

And once the snow finally stops, colder temperatures will return.

Coulson warned that residents shouldn’t expect a reprieve until next month.

“We are going to see temperatures start to drop back down to well below seasonal values through Sunday and into the work week,” he said.

“At this point, by Tuesday we’re only forecasting a daytime high of - 14C where the normal high is - 4C. The long range model is showing this stubborn colder than normal pattern that has been with us for much of the winter will continue into March.” 

The city is reminding citizens that calendar and priority winter parking regulations are in effect and that no one should be parked on arterial or collector streets between 2 a.m. and 7 a.m.

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fireice says:
Nice to hear some areas of the city have received fast snow removal, the sidewalks in Grandview have certainly not this winter.The streets have been plowed in a reasonable time frame, the sidewalks wait many days after a snowfall, if they get done at all.Tough to hand over the money for the first tax bill of the year when your sidewalks are impassable.Even tougher to see the seniors struggle on the sidewalks throughout the area and near the 55 Plus Centre and the creek.
2/23/2014 11:14:26 AM
Arch Stanton says:
Well, don't think we've had so much snow in South Neebing in the last 10 years... BUT, most days we are dug out by 10:30. Even after the monster-dump on Friday we were OK by 2:30pm...

SO - HUGE THANKS to the snow-plow and gritting crews. We would be well & truly stuck without you!!!

2/22/2014 7:50:11 PM
lonewolf9 says:
Now if we could get Sewer & Water to get their act together. The chain of broken watermains at all those intersections on Cumberland Street the past couple of weeks wasn't just old pipes and the weather. It's called incompetence by not clearing the lines properly. Ask any retired member of this division. The new people in charge and workers underneath them don't know what they are doing and it's costing the taxpayers thousands and thousands of dollars!
2/22/2014 2:25:22 PM
tsb says:
Everything is terrible. WAAAAAAH
2/21/2014 7:56:51 PM
rbosch says:
@ virtual - the January comment was in relationship to the 2013 portion of snow removal. That budget runs from January to December and is not a seasonal budget. They have new money for the year 2014, hence the snow banks being cleared and the continued good snow removal from the streets.
2/21/2014 2:40:00 PM
virtualrealityczech says:
I guess the City administration must be wishing they had banked the money they had saved in the snow removal budget in previous years.

Hard to fathom why in January the City administration was complaining that they had already gone through the snow removal budget for the year. What were they thinking... that we are sub tropical? According to Environment Canada, average annual snowfall for Thunder Bay is approx. 190cm and by yesterday we were at approx. 140cm well below average.

2/21/2014 12:25:58 PM
SomeGuy says:
There is always at least one...
2/21/2014 1:25:24 PM
fastball says:
Do you EVER listen to the answers when they're posted??
The problem was last April, when we got 79cm of snow, when the average is only around 8cm. Even though it was "last winter", it still counted in the 2014 snow removal budget. So when December/January rolled around, they didn't have a lot left because of April. After the new budget gets approved (late Jan, early Feb) - only then they have the full amount of money.
It wasn't poor management or wasteful practices - it was last April's ten times average snowfall (and subsequent removal costs) that emptied the coffers.
2/21/2014 1:36:42 PM
buddyrose says:

I do not disagree with your point, but your calculation of "well below average" is incorrect. Yes, average annual snowfall for TBay is 187.6cm. But that includes the months of March, April and May which, for this year, have not yet happened. Average snowfall by the end of February is 146.6cm. Today we received 15-25cm, putting us somewhere between 160 and 170cm. That is above average, not well below average.
2/21/2014 2:19:10 PM
Centrist says:
This coming from the guy, who I am sure, has a sound knowledge of snow removal, city budgeting/planning, and an understanding of what is entailed in keeping a city safe.

Seriously, this is where you find your jollies in complaining about? Why don't you take a look at any other municipality and see that they are all blowing their budgets on a bad snow year - including those in april as was stated.
2/21/2014 5:36:57 PM
crypto says:
Kudos to the road crews clearing the streets this morning. Two of you even helped me get to work by clearing the road ahead of me.

The other drivers on the road however... slow down and use your brain. I watched one impatient driver try to overtake one of the two graters clearing Memorial and almost caused an accident with the snow crew.
2/21/2014 11:56:42 AM
Reg says:
Thanks to the city workers for doing a great job all year. It's always nice to hear the plow coming down the street at night,keep it up.
2/21/2014 11:25:32 AM
Papercut says:

Excellent job!
2/21/2014 11:18:27 AM
grs says:
[sarcasm]I blame this snow on the event centre. If we weren't building it we would have sunshine and rainbows, flowers would be blooming and birds chirping. Heck, even if we built it but in Innova Park we would have had only 10 cm of snow instead of 30 cm. Yep, all the event centre's fault[/sarcasm]

Just starting it off, cause you know it is only a matter of time before someone starts commenting on the event centre on an unrelated story.
2/21/2014 11:13:07 AM
CM Punk says:
Its cool, school was cancelled today anyways.
The city this year has been doing a great job with respect to snow removal considering last year they were terrible.
But this year has been a different story.

I sometimes wish I had a snow removal machine because there are people who leave their cars on the road for no reason and have a driveway.
The snow removal person is very patient, I wonder what the legal aspect of that is?
2/21/2014 10:22:07 AM
moi says:
I agree 100% with the part of your post..

"..because there are people who leave their cars..."

I live on a quiet,dead end residential road,and it never ceases to amaze (and anger) me how some of my fellow homeowners will park on the road when their driveways are either empty or half-empty. When I go to back out of MY driveway,I damn near hit their truck/suv because there's not wiggle room to safely leave my driveway.I keep telling myself--"oh well, if I do wind-up hitting their car,then so be it".Where's the justice, or common sense of some people...and what's the point of having a driveway,if you're not going to use it?
2/22/2014 9:29:25 AM
Ranma says:
And yet people will still park where they please, and force the city workers to plow them in. And then said drivers will complain and complain and complain.
2/21/2014 10:21:59 AM
what'sup says:
A big thank you goes out to the roads division for doing an excellent job! It was nice to be able to drive to work without sloppy streets.
2/21/2014 10:15:37 AM
Back-in-the-bay says:
I agree that thanks are in order. Thank you grader guys for filling the end of my driveway 7 times in the last 12 hours. Thank you for needlessly and constantly pushing back snow just to justify your being out there. Thank you for sanding our street twice only to follow 10 minutes later with a grader throwing it all up the excessively now pushed back banks. Thank you for using the city equipment to clear the driveways of two city workers (one sanitation and one roads) on our street while we dug out the end of our driveway for the 5 th time yesterday. I don't mind shoveling, in fact not at all, but the removal planning of snow seems totally random and excessive at best. Watching city trucks dig out their city worker buddies is just salt in the wound - and not road salt either...that was all plowed up onto the banks as quickly as it was spread.
2/22/2014 12:00:39 PM
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