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2014-03-12 at 11:28

Ontario Liberals propose wage freeze for MPPs

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By tbnewswatch.com

Ontario’s Liberal government plans to introduce a bill to freeze MPP wages.

The freeze would mean MPP wages would remains unchanged until at least 2019, and it’s something MPP Bill Mauro (Lib., Thunder Bay - Atikokan) says he supports.

Calling it a good example to set, the Thunder Bay area representative says it is a small gesture to help combat Ontario’s deficit.

“I would point out the the federal government and their (MPs) are not doing the same things,” Mauro said during a phone interview with CKPR Radio Wednesday. “And obviously they’ve been in a deficit for a very long time as well.”

The proposed freeze would block a scheduled increase that’s set for April 1.

Opposition parties are criticizing the move, calling it a distraction to a poor financial record. The opposition at Queen’s Park is also critical of the government’s timing, considering there is a possibility of a spring election.
 

(CKPR Radio)


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jonthunder says:
Not to long ago they supported and got a HUGE increase. It should not be frozen, based on their terrible performance it should be slashed at least 30%.
3/12/2014 12:39:22 PM
glass half full says:
Will this help buy some votes?

I love election years!!!!

Keep the responsible decisions flowing...
3/12/2014 12:52:54 PM
caesarjbasquitti says:
Suggestions, to make a good system better !

1. The people elect the Premier, no special powers.

2. We elect at least three people locally for provincial or federal positions. Each votes locally and in the assembly based on a weighted vote system. Ie, if they received 55% of the vote, they are a majority and their vote would be so voted. If they win with 30% of the vote, then the other two would also have a determination on the vote.

3. Wage ceiling on salaries. Take the minimum wage, full time and double it, or triple it. Right now it is 5 to 6 times higher. (that will save on deficit)

4. Enact laws that allow governments to spend within their budgets. To discourage spend now, pay later. Or short term gain, long term costs.

5. More auditors, strict accountability to determine value per dollar spent.

6. Protect front line workers jobs.

7. Reward profitable operations. All systems should make a profit, that is given back to the community. TBaytel does !
3/12/2014 1:12:45 PM
pc says:
wasn't it the liberals who said all public sector unions would have a wage freeze? I don't think they kept that promise so why should we believe them when they say they will freeze their own salaries?
I agree with the opposition on this being a good distraction.
Maybe the GTA people will believe them but the folks living in the real world will see it for what it is. Hopefully the people in the 2 TB ridings will also see it for what it is.
Not holding much hope for that but it is on my wish list.
3/12/2014 8:28:26 PM
lori says:
yes in good old hicktown t.bay, we see the same old comments.

The MPPs have not had a raise for years. i don't feel sorry for them, they make a decent living for what they do, but compared to MP's, they are a distant, distant second.

And if they would have taken a raise, we would have heard the complaints about that.

MP's just got a raise, but no story nor any criticism about that, and they get it every year.

Our MP's get a pension after six years service. MP's get ZERO for a pension, but no negative comments about that.

Our MPP's keep bringing money and jobs here and this site just wants to complain.

Our MP's bring nothing here and no comment.

Good old blunder bay
3/12/2014 10:16:12 PM
CRay says:
how about when they stop putting Ontario further into debt, and they actually eliminate the provincial deficit then we give them a raise?

will they earn a raise or will they just take one?

Canada's debt is going down. Ontario's in increasing. Feds deserve rewards, mpps obviously do not.
3/12/2014 11:28:06 PM
pc says:
"Our MPP's keep bringing money and jobs here and this site just wants to complain."
I seem to recall some jobs brought here by our MPP's in the form of pop scicle sticks.
That did a lot for TB and region didn't it.
I recall mills closing and lumber trucks not driving the highways, That did a lot for the region, didn't it.
I know a mine is closing due in part to the high cost of energy.
I hear of mines not opening Not in the ROF but in the immediate area. Due in part to the ineptness of the gov. dealings with the natives.
Oh yes they brought Bombardier jobs and they kept 1 coal plant running I think.
Big whoopie doo for those 2 things.
Heinz closed, Aylmer has moved across the border I think. An agricultural School is closing and the Libs are doing nothing to help them out.
Our children are leaving not only the region and the province but many are leaving for different countries.
So yes TB a hick town maybe. It is that due to ineptness of our provincial gov.
3/13/2014 7:26:02 AM
unknowncronik says:
If they get their raise, ALL workers everywhere should get an increase for the exact amount!

3/13/2014 2:25:44 AM
YellowSnow13 says:
MPP's keep bring money and jobs here? What jobs? We had a Federal Liberal Government for 12 years and they did nothing for the region and you want to slam them. Tell us why a Conservative government should give T. Bay anything since it always votes Liberal and NDP? You ever heard of you scratch my back, I'll scratch your's?
3/13/2014 6:35:46 AM
The Badger Mountain Hermit says:
Gee...do ya think an election is coming up? Dont worry, all you Billy and Mikey lovers...a week after the Election, theu'll merely award themselves that raise, RETROACTIVELY. That's how these cash-addicts operate.
3/13/2014 10:08:18 AM
trevor99 says:
where would Cray get his info. The reality is, Canada's debt is 616 billion, increasing about 160 billion over the past 5 years. As for PC If you wish to debate the merits of the Liberal Government in Ontario, I would be happy to do so. I can see their flaws as well as anyone, just like I can see the flaws in the Federal Government which you seem to conveniently ignore. I also saw the flaws in the Mike Harris government and the Bob Rae government. But I will disagree with your opinion on what has gone on locally and this from someone who has not voted in 2 elections. You blame the gov't for Heinz but what about the companies leaving from other provinces. No blame for Ottawa?
Locally, unemployment is great, housing is high and more jobs came than left. Forestry was a world wide problem yet you want to blame this gov't because of agenda. I am not a fan of any gov't, but to suggest that nothing good has happened here, shows your true colours, along with your name. PC says it all.
3/13/2014 10:38:58 AM
pc says:
I am glad you can see the flaws in the NDP government. If you couldn't, I'd send you the address for a seeing eye dog. This article was about the Ontario government, so why bring the Feds into it? More distraction, would be my guess.
With the Liberal's "green strategy" we are paying more than any other province for electricity. We're actually paying another country to take our excess power. Talk of raising corporate taxes keeps companies from building here. A tax on fuel will be the last nail in the coffin for many companies already here. How does this benefit Ontario? Companies can move, seniors on fixed incomes should knit more sweaters?
By the way, the name I use here stands for 'not-Politcally-Correct', but the PTB running this board wouldn't accept that when I first signed in. Oh, and one last thought... if you don't bother to vote, you get exactly what you voted for.
3/13/2014 8:15:40 PM
cityisgreat says:
it amazes me how left leaning communist like people are on this site. really you think because other people get a raise EVERYONE should get a raise? people if you want to make money then invest in yourselves through getting a good education, upgrading your education or get a trade. No one owes you anything, if you want something work hard for it and stop complaining.
you make this city look like a bunch of leftist welfare recipients and its pretty embarrassing
3/13/2014 12:56:42 PM
lori says:
this has nothing to do with this story but I wanted to ask the question. In the Quebec election, the PQ spoke about what would happen if Quebec left Canada. She said that Quebec would still use the CDN dollar.

My question is just this.

How does Quebec get to decide what currency they would use. If they wish to leave, I for one would be happy to hold the door open for them.

At some point it would be nice to end this continued silliness or do they simply get to keep asking the question until they get the answer they want.

I for one would love to give them all of NFLD and Labrador, bring those people into Quebec, a straight swap, and wish them all the best.

3/13/2014 6:03:04 PM
pc says:
Prime Minister Harper has said that if Quebec leaves they will not be able to use the Canadian dollar as their own currency.
They will have to give back the Canadian Passports as well.
They can use the currency the same as you can use the American money.
You just have no say in what the government does with it and you cannot print it.
It will be the same with Quebec if the Conservatives are in power.
It will probably go Quebec's way if Justin is in power since he said if the Conservatives win the next election he would join with Quebec and leave Canada.
3/13/2014 8:23:15 PM
lori says:
pc, the stuff that you present as fact is quite astounding.

Please tell me when Mr. Harper made those statements.

Please tell me when Mr. Trudeau said what you posted above.

I am anxious to read this or listen to the clip where they were said.
3/14/2014 9:15:33 PM
pc says:
here is one article address from years ago but still looking for the more recent one.
http://news.nationalpost.com/2014/03/15/how-harpers-reform-party-pushed-chretien-government-to-recognize-50-plus-one-in-1995-quebec-referendum/

The one of Trudeau was from a Quebec talk show I think or the same article where he was saying the only good prime ministers were from Quebec.
But do a search and I am sure you could find those references.
3/16/2014 9:34:10 AM
alarmforce says:
I would strongly suggested to them to give each MPP their pink slips. Have an election and then decide on wage freezes, rollbacks, etc., for those who are left in office.
3/15/2014 1:15:25 AM
hotchoc says:
The Chief of Police makes over 200 grand
The Deputy Chief at least 180
The City manager is over 200
City department managers are in the 125-140 range
MP's make in excess of 160 plus pension after 6 years
Staff Sgt's at the police station make about 120 grand or a bit more.

I don't have much trouble paying 120 grand for an MPP.

I may be in the minority but given the salaries we pay others this does not seem excessive to a position anyone can run for.
3/17/2014 5:50:58 PM
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