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2014-03-28 at 13:32

Sunshine list revealed

By tbnewswatch.com
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The city’s 100K club skyrocketed in 2013.

Ontario’s Ministry of Finance on Friday released its annual public salary disclosure for 2013. The document, known to many as the sunshine list, makes the salaries of any public sector employee in the province public.

The 2014 disclosure, which reports on salaries collected through 2013, shows the City of Thunder Bay had 249 employees earning more than $100,000. That’s slightly more than 2012 when the city had 244 employees, but is a significant jump from the 150 city employees who were on the list in 2013.

The increase can mostly be attributed to Thunder Bay Fire Rescue, which had 106 members on the list. That rise, from 41 in 2012, is a result of a contract settlement reached in June of last year that gave firefighters back pay, similar to the list from two years ago.

“The 249 number will shrink next year, I’m not sure what it will be but my sense is we’ll be well below 200 employees,” said city manager Tim Commisso.

“It’s an anomaly similar to 2011.”

There was also a slight increase in the number of members from the Thunder Bay Police Service on the list, which went from 66 on the 2013 list to 85 in the 2014 version.

Commisso tops the municipal payroll with an annual salary of $229,608. Police chief J.P. Levesque made 209,748, while fire chief John Hay took home $168,267.

St. Joseph Care Group physician advisor of mental health and addictions Lois Hutchinson was the highest paid provincial employee last year with a salary of $405,190. St. Joseph Care Group CEO Tracy Buckler earned $315, 012. Thunder Bay Regional Health Sciences Centre CEO Andree Robichaud's salary totalled more than $385,000.

Lakehead University president Brian Stevenson took home $360,000 and Confederation College president Jim Madder made $226,921. Lakehead District School Board executive director Catherine Siemieniuk made $195,845 while Thunder Bay Catholic District School Board director Joan Powell had a salary of $172,081.

You can read the province's entire sunshine list here.

Note to readers: This is a corrected story. A previous version incorrectly identified the highest paid provincial employee.

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realist says:
And the "Negative Nellies" say...
3/28/2014 1:52:17 PM
yqtyqt says:
Well this "Negative Nellie" says that this jump from 150 in 2012 to 249 in 2013 is huge. One would have to be a civil servant or part of the Working Families Coalition or a Public Sector Union boss not to be outraged at the enormous amount of taxpayers dollars being absorbed by well fed city employees.

Tax increases are the result of the ever increasing sunshine list.

But I'm more interested in the Hydro One, Hospital CEOs and other provincial agencies soaking up taxpayers dollars.
3/28/2014 2:36:18 PM
whatelseisnew says:
Jealousy will get you nowhere!
3/29/2014 8:15:59 PM
yqtyqt says:
Spoken like a true "entitled" civil servant. I wouldn't expect anything less than your comment.

Meanwhile, seniors and other low income taxpayers are struggling under the burden of taxes, public utilities and government fees.

3/31/2014 10:37:31 AM
The Badger Mountain Hermit says:
Police Chief here makes as much as the Chiefs of Chicago and NYC..what a joke...
3/28/2014 1:59:44 PM
SomeGuy says:
How much should the Chief of police make? Please provide enlighten us.
3/28/2014 6:45:57 PM
opinions2014 says:
Alright, let's see how many negative comments we will get from the same individuals.
3/28/2014 2:03:55 PM
yqtyqt says:
And lets see the number of comments from "entitled" gravy train employees that get posted.

The usual suspects including those in denial will appear.
3/31/2014 10:51:18 AM
Slyder says:
No need to check it out. It's 90% cops and firefighters. Quiting my job... gonna be a firefighter boys. It doesn't get much better then that!
3/28/2014 2:22:12 PM
patti says:
Good luck with that Slyder ~ That is why there's 500 or so applicants for every two or three jobs that may come up
3/28/2014 4:11:52 PM
cityisgreat says:
wait..let me get my cheese so i can start to read the comments. ya quit your job and join the firefighters. we would find you curled up crying in the fire house. Perhaps given that most of the people on the list either work for a union or have an unionized workplace maybe the answer is get rid of the unions?
3/28/2014 3:35:11 PM
cm punk says:
Be a teacher instead.
97k and counting per year. Summers off.
March break, Christmas break.
Off work at 3pm. Nothing better.
3/28/2014 3:37:51 PM
Theangryone says:
Really? 97K per year? But teachers do not get paid for the summer. The pay period is only for 10 months. Frozen salary, tons of time put in on your OWN time, courses paid for out of pocket. Can't ask for the money back like those who get courses paid for...sometimes out of town. Off at 3?? Grade 7-12 yes, but they start early and do not get an hour lunch....only 40 minutes. 3 week holiday for March and Christmas? If you work CM do you get holidays? The summer is when teachers go and do their upgrades....or they do it after hours during the week/weekends while they still have their regular job to complete(marking, planning, report cards). So before you go shooting your mouth of CM PUNK...get informed...try being a teacher...get off your rear end and try it...oh yeah....4 years of university, maybe more at 7K per year plus books. Good luck buddy. Let me know how you make out.
3/28/2014 9:35:24 PM
basicfinance says:
To TheAngryOne. Your response does not highlight any job trait which is not encountered in other careers. The "I work hard" defence, or more hours or more upgrades is not unique.
Private sector people put in tons of extra time, require upgrades to remain competitive and relevant....and do not get a raise each year for 10 years just because they peg "up" the seniority grid.
Its not just the pay...its the commuted value of your pensions which is an unseen burden...but this will eventually change. Pensions where not meant to pay some teachers longer than they worked. ie/my father 90+ years of age has been retired longer than he worked....its unsustainable.
3/30/2014 3:23:40 PM
yqtyqt says:
"its the commuted value of your pensions which is an unseen burden".

Well said. Therein, lies a burden for future taxpayers equal to, or greater than, the accumulated debt showing up on the provinces balance sheet. Unfunded future liabilities. You'll hear more about these as taxes and rates escalate in future years with little to no ability to control the past employee costs.

But, it gets the party in power re-elected (working families coalition) when they announce more and more civil servant jobs with more and more future platinum benefits.

Ontario is the second worst province/state in North America with per capita debt. Add the unfunded future liabilities for civil servant entitlements to the booked debt, and we're ready to take the 18 wheeler journey off the cliff (aka maple Leafs) when you consider our economy is tanking more and more each day.

We need a seriously different mindset to avoid the day of reckoning.

Please don't vote pro-civil servant gravy train again.
3/31/2014 10:48:52 AM
Theangryone says:
Oh yeah...teachers having to deal with 30 kids and their parents. Good luck with that. Having to deal with issues prior to the day starting, having your breaks and lunch interrupted by parents without having the RIGHT to say NO. Dealing with issues AFTER your day has ended or even on their own time from home. Do you think firefighters and police have to deal with that?? What was your reply??? NO? Teachers have a difficult job as well PUNK.
3/28/2014 9:44:10 PM
unionbay880 says:
Save it. I have friends who are teachers, best job ever, tons of time off. Yes they are only paid for the 9 months they work 9-3. But the pay is spread over 12 months (80 - 90 thousand a year) the cheques don't stop in the summer. But I say if they are doing their job right developing the next generation they are well worth it!
3/29/2014 9:47:56 AM
ring of fire dude says:
Best job is right , plus a pension that would make any working stiff blush .
3/29/2014 11:23:07 AM
Theangryone says:
@UNIONBAY....if you think it is that easy.....YOU try it.
3/29/2014 10:36:08 PM
S Duncan says:
if you think its hard, you don't know what a hard job is.

everybody thinks they work the hardest and deserve the most pay.

reality is Canada is full of lazy people voting themselves raises and using crybaby strike tactics to strongarm more money out of employers, who then in turn must raise prices making Canada less competitive in world markets.

Great societies like Rome didn't die off, they committed suicide by artificially inflating themselves, much like public service unions do.
3/30/2014 5:51:00 PM
George Street Economist says:
You clearly don't know anything about Rome or economics. Or most of the subjects you comment on.
3/31/2014 12:12:06 AM
S Duncan says:
Whatever you say skyhigh
3/31/2014 9:23:29 AM
fastball says:
The problem is OVERTIME paid to cops and firefighters.
The city finds it cheaper in the long run to pay the guys overtime than to add another few more constables and their benefits to the existing payroll.
It's not "fat cats" or whatever name you guys want to call it...it's OVERTIME, plain and simple.
3/28/2014 3:41:02 PM
yqtyqt says:
And the reason for cops & firefighters being paid overtime is .... too many cops/ff who have booked off sick, on compensation/ off on unpaid leave, suspended without pay, awaiting trial for bad behaviour etc etc.

Do your homework fastball. This goes on in every municipality in Ontario. More than a few, spoil it for the deserving. Cities are all saying the same thing and pricing out their options.

The gravy train continues. Keep the tax increases coming.
3/28/2014 4:39:44 PM
fastball says:
Municipalities all over the place have figured it out - they're saying they've instituted a "hiring freeze" to look good on their yearly budget report....but in essence, they're just paying the overtime money, instead of inheriting more full-time employees.
I'd suggest that the "bad apple" guys you alluded to are a miniscule number compared to the main reason for the overtime...namely, vacation time and lieu time for court testimony for the fulltime officers.
3/28/2014 6:03:40 PM
pub27 says:
What about the apprentices that made the list....now that I don't understand
3/28/2014 4:01:58 PM
musicferret says:
This isn't about people being 'negative nellies' as some posters, possibly working for one of the services, have said above.

This is about people looking at their taxes skyrocketing, their wages stagnating or even shrinking, and watching Fire and Police services getting wage increases well passed inflation year after year. Its not an issue that they get a raise higher than inflation once or twice. No problem. The issue is a compounding issue: 0.5-1% extra past inflation every year; year after year, and you end up with the situation we are in now.

We all value the work our police and fire services do; but we have long ago passed the point of fair compensation.

Please, do what the Dr's did last contract and offer some relief to the people you theoretically 'serve'. Its time for a minimal wage rollback across the board. People are beyond tapped out paying for your sweet deals.
3/28/2014 4:21:39 PM
ThunderBayFullOfCrime says:
Police & Fire deserve decent wages for what they do. It's a risky job and their lives are potentially on the line every call.

I'm not defending all the wages but I do think that if you have a very high unpredictable risk of personal injury or death at your job, you should get paid accordingly.
3/28/2014 4:45:56 PM
Armchair Tom Brady says:
"The document, known to many as the sunshine list, makes the salaries of any public sector employee in the province public."

Not every public sector employee; only those making over 100k/yr.
3/28/2014 6:06:21 PM
reese says:
Public SERVANTS on the sunshine list most overvalued real estate in the world
Seems to me they are trying to send the people a strong message
Bail out and you have nothing to complain about
3/28/2014 6:29:59 PM
pylon says:
The truth is Thunder Bay should be a split volunteer/full time department. Firefighters are carrying stretchers for medics most of the time and that's a pretty low level job if you ask me.

Volunteer departments cover city's all over Ontario and Canada, how would Thunder Bay do? I'm positive there would be plenty of qualified volunteers in Thunder Bay.
3/28/2014 6:41:08 PM
Stephen says:
A hundred large is not really that big of a pay-cheque any longer.
I do have a bit of a problem with the "hire the ornge guy, fire six nurses" manager. 385? seriously?
3/28/2014 7:39:16 PM
Bobguy says:
I believe music ferret has it right. I think public service employees have a fair compensation package now. Any further increases should be tied to the inflation rate so their purchasing power remains the same from now on.

It's a fair trade off for the job security that they enjoy over many of the private sector employees.
3/28/2014 8:00:26 PM
mikevirtanen1961 says:
Dear editor;

At the time of this writing, you characterize the City's sunshine list as having "skyrocketed". However, by the third paragraph, you say it has increased "slightly" from 244 to 249. How can something skyrocket slightly?
3/28/2014 9:34:36 PM
Leith Dunick says:
Because the number was 150 in 2012. The 244 was in 2011, the last time firefighters got retro pay after negotiating a contract.
3/28/2014 11:49:29 PM
Mastermind says:
To music ferret....We all value the work our police and fire services do; but we have long ago passed the point of fair compensation.....and to all you armchair wannabees.....

You still make this comment after a police officer gets shot in Brampton trying to stop a man who may have been an active shooter intent on killing many. You disgust me.
3/28/2014 10:11:42 PM
musicferret says:
Its a tragedy, yes, but a tragedy does not change the fiscal reality we are in.

You are attempting to win an argument with an emotional response rather than dealing with the facts: we can't afford the current system.
3/29/2014 12:10:01 AM
Uncle Guiseppe in Siderno says:
I’m not sure what it will be but my sense is we’ll be well below 200 employees,” said city manager Tim Commisso.

That's my boy!!!
3/28/2014 10:52:17 PM
analyst1 says:
Hey angryone, I guess the truth hurts. You have it so tough. If it is so bad why don't you quit and find another job? You won't because you have it great and you know it. No teacher has ever quit their job and gone into the private sector because you would never have the same salary, same benefits, same holidays, or the same job security. That is why YOU became a teacher. Not because you love teaching as proven by your complaint about working with 30 kids. Obviously, that is the worst part of your job. Stop pretending all teachers are working all summer. They maybe upgrade until they are 30. Then they never work more than a day or two in July or August. You went to university - big deal. So do thousands of people. There is a reason that so many are so desparate to get into teacher's college - even though you will likely end up on a supply list. It's because of the potential to land on that lfetime gravy train. Nobody is buying your whining. Give it up.
3/29/2014 8:07:41 AM
Theangryone says:
...if you think it is that easy.....YOU try it.
3/29/2014 10:37:33 PM
Eastender says:
If you find teaching as difficult and unbearable as you make it out to be, perhaps you are in the wrong profession. Try being a nurse and work 12 hour midnight shifts, or a truck driver, on the road. Try bring s railroad worker on call 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, or try mining. How about working on an oil rig. You dont know how good you have it. You were trained for the work, and you are very well compensated.
3/30/2014 11:47:38 PM
publicdomain says:
For those of you who constantly criticize people who work in high paying jobs, here's a piece of advice. We all have choices in life. You can choose to not attend college or university, or to become a public servant of some kind, work in a clothing store or at a fast food chain. People who choose to pursue higher education and work in a profession that improves or enriches the lives of others, are paid accordingly: they are paid for their education, their skills, and for the risks that they take each day. Sad state we live in when we only a value a police officer if they do something specifically for us or our families, but at any other time we think they are paid too much. Same seems to be the perception of firefighters, teachers, nurses and countless others who help others. I'm sorry not everyone makes the sunshine list, but if you want a chance at it, go back to school, and then let us know if you think you've earned your pay. I think your perception might be different.
3/29/2014 8:16:03 AM
yqt says:
$100,000... What's that this day in age?

It's peanuts!!! 10-15 yrs ago you could have considered that alot of money, now it's just above the poverty line. They need to revise this list to $200,0000.

Now..... Where's my boss.... we need to talk about a raise!!!!!
3/29/2014 8:48:46 AM
rootbear says:
*sigh* where's my WalMart vest?....
3/29/2014 9:10:31 AM
AlexA says:
Did a quick count 55 firefighters and 36 constables............. what's up with that.
3/29/2014 10:02:06 AM
oscarmyerweiner says:
And now I know why my taxes are high.... Maybe a salary cap should be in order here. Definitely would help with the economy. I was against the minimum wage increase but after reading this really changed my point of view.
3/29/2014 10:09:00 AM
CM Punk says:
To THEANGRYONE:

Let me go step by step here so even you can understand.
Yes, 97k and even more sometimes per year.
We are paid 26 pay dates and that includes over the summer and holiday breaks.
Most course taken are paid for by the board and if not, you are reimbursed for it.

Classes start around 9am, we usually do not get there until 8 30 and classes end just before 3. By 3:10pm, the parking lot is clear and everyone is gone.
Don't forget, 3 classes at 1 hr and 15 min each. Plus a spare.

4 years university puts you at A3 and take 1 or 2 courses and QECO puts you at A4. After ten years you re top of the pay scale.
But even so, you start at 45k or more and get 3k per year salary increase.

365 days in a year, teachers, well high school teachers work 160. Do the math! You must be one of those VHS movie types so continue using those in your classroom if you are a teacher.

Keep drinking that steep tea or whatever.
3/29/2014 10:10:59 AM
taekat says:
I taught for 5 years in BC - now it was music/band - but still teaching and it was middle school (6-8). I worked up to 50 hours a week but I didn't have to do marking - most teachers left after school but then did 1-3 hours of marking at home. I don't teach anymore, I have a different job, but it only took about 1 day at a different job to realize that when you teach it is full throttle every class - you can't sit down and read emails - you have to me 100% engaged with the students or that's it - the mental fatigue was incredible. If a teacher is doing their job right they work hard and there is no one who can say otherwise. The problem with all the non-teachers is they think they know just how hard a teacher works because they were students of teachers once and they saw exactly how hard teachers worked and of course they could easily teach just as well if not better. I really hope you think about why you are so hard and negative towards teachers.
3/30/2014 8:23:55 PM
humnchuck says:
Curious how you arrive at 160 working days. The school year is roughly 190-194 days (depending on elementary or secondary) as per published calendars on the public and RC board's websites.

Just because you elect to not put in additional time doesn't mean other teachers all do the same. It's kind of sad how you seem to be quite proud of yourself as you mail it in. Your students deserve better.
3/31/2014 9:58:32 PM
dank says:
Soon its going to be lower class and sunshine listers, no middle class to speak of. Where do I sign up for subsidized housing?
3/29/2014 11:01:44 AM
ring of fire dude says:
Do you want wine with that subsidized housing or bed bugs ?
3/29/2014 11:35:27 AM
Alexa says:
I think the City should look into why so many more fire fighters on the list compared to police constables. Do fire fighters work that much more overtime as compared to police officers??? Something doesn't look right.
3/29/2014 1:11:15 PM
mystified says:
So what. They get it, we don't because we aren't one of them.
End of story, it's done, carry on to the next story of someone getting more than you.
3/29/2014 3:08:52 PM
AlexA says:
painfully obvious that NOTHING has changed at Hydro One. Take a look at the list of over 100,000.00, A list of who DOESN'T make 100,000 there should also be included, it is probably empty.........there is a Artist that made 107,000, a meter reader that made 105,000 and a Warehouse Inventory Specialist made 102,000 and a Customer Service Specialist making 101,000........geeez can't something be done to fix this. it is almost criminal .
3/29/2014 6:20:50 PM
chezhank says:
There would be nothing wrong with the sunshine list if this was the private sector.
However when emergency services(ems,fire,police) start taking more and more of the tax pie there is less and less for other essentials such as roads.
In 2008 40.5% of the pie went to this sector.
For 2014 they are taking 43.8% of the pie.
This is not sustainable!

henry wojak
mayor in waiting
3/29/2014 7:07:52 PM
signman says:
Most of us are just getting by and that's why we need a vote on the propesed Event Centre.
We are not looking at increased propery taxes through the same coloured sun glasses the sunshine club wears.
3/29/2014 8:02:02 PM
jessica1234 says:
I think the hospital needs to take a look at all the people in management positions and the amount they make.Some management positions have two secretaries!! and they want to save money by cutting back RN positions as well as wages!!Currently registered nurses in thunder bay are working without a contract as of today. OHA wants to decrease the number of registered nurses. We have the highest RN to patio ratios. No wonder our sick time is the highest in Canada!Please go to the ona website and sign the petition to our mpp. Without the quality care that RN's provide to your family and friends, people are going to suffer, while management sits cozy making 400,000 a year! doesnt make sense!!.Put the money where its really needed. I understand managment is important and we need managers, but you dont need a manager for every possible thing you can think of!
3/30/2014 6:48:48 AM
trevor99 says:
I am mystified at your posting unless you belong to the group of well paid folk. To the person who says 100 grand is no big deal. Please advise what you are smoking.

If these folks are making 100 grand, then they have qualified for a $60 grand pension that is going to keep on growing, 1/2 funded by us the taxpayer as well. I do agree that anyone can apply for these jobs, but not everyone can get them. Having them does not create the entitlement.

I respect what cops have to do sometimes, but at least half the cops don't have to do it. They are office workers, work plain clothes and lots of other duties that don't involve high risk stuff like the road cops. They make the big bucks too. Fire make the same as cops and someday I am sure someone will tell me why as lots of fire guys have yet to fight a fire.

It is a lot of money that grows every year. Something needs to be done to slow the gravy train down. Levesque and Hay make more than our MP's. Nice gig if you can get it.
3/30/2014 11:36:04 AM
jethro says:
"a lot of fireguys have yet to fight a fire" Wonder where you get info from,,,tbay has most fires per cap in ont, all I read every day is fires, etc, Not to mention, the fine print said that the reason for the lge increase is only due to backpay, in laymans terms, they wouldnt be in sunshine if money owed wasnt held back untill this years list. Makes me wonder if some would rather everyone made min wage and education and hardwork didnt matter??
3/30/2014 12:25:27 PM
brandon says:
Live about a block from from my station 8 years.... pass it twice a day minimum.

I see about 1 truck a year actually leaving/returning or on the road from the station.

I do see the guys washing their nice trucks out front, changing their oil, putting on new rims, loading up supplies for their contracting businesses.
3/30/2014 3:10:22 PM
fastball says:
...until you really need them. And then, by God, you'll change your tune.
We've an elderly parent that's had some health issues, and have been forced to call 911 on occasion. Those boys are there within 5 minutes, it seems. Courteous, professional and compassionate - everything I'd hope for in an individual that only shows up when your world is literally falling down.
I'd rather my cops, nurses and firefighters get the overtime and make the money - instead of some fat banker or other office drone.
3/31/2014 7:39:06 AM
Tbaybmkr says:
Personally I think police and firefighters don't get paid enough for what they do! You people wining about their wages should be ashamed of yourselves! Man the Mayor isn't even on there and I believe he should be paid at least $180,000.00 / year!
The complainers here have no idea what it's like to deal with the public on a daily basis!
3/30/2014 8:19:44 PM
S Duncan says:
Then use all your own money to get them closer to what you think they should get.

You use yours as you see fit, and I'll use mine.

They are all paid wayyy too much.
3/30/2014 8:35:05 PM
trevor99 says:
how do we take you seriously when you make these blanket statements. No one is deserving? Lets start with cops. I have no issue paying 90 grand to the cop who responds when I yell, or risks his health and safety for others. I have an issue that cops who sit at desks, or do far less, get paid the same and I really have a problem with the pay when they get promoted. As for fire. How about we pay a fire guy 50 grand a year and 2 or 3 grand a fire. Count how many fires locally, divide by the number of fire guys and see if this "insurance policy" is worth it.

Others are deserving. I have no qualms paying departments managers in the 120-130 range. I have a big issue with over 200 for the chief given that brutal state of crime in this city but that will never change. No one has the backbone in this city to take on that sacred cow, not even the Mayor who promised it, and ran from it.

various opinions on this. present 3 options and get four opinions but these costs are beyond silly.
3/31/2014 12:57:40 PM
yqtyqt says:
I'd be interested when you would consider enough is enough. $150,000. $200,000. Maybe a half million a year would be enough. Please tell us.

What would you define as enough as enough when it comes to taxes. What you pay now, double what you pay, 4x what you pay for taxes? Maybe 10x your hydro bill?

What are you willing to give up to shell out more to the cops/ firefighters? Roads? Water & Sewer? How about recreation facilities? Seniors facilities? Daycares? Multiplex?

I'm going to guess that you have no idea how expensive municipal services have become.

I'll suggest a solution. Roll back those on the sunshine list. Freeze all other gov't wages or allow modest increases for those at the bottom of the chart. Freeze benefits.

These employees with their great benefits/pensions won't starve. I promise you that.

But gramma may to if she has to make a choice between food/utiliteis and her tax/hydro bill.

We need some backbone amongst our politicians here. Not more spineless jellyfish.
3/31/2014 11:08:28 AM
jethro says:
The more you make the more you pay in tax,, Duncan, if your so worried about taxes then you should be happy these workers make 100,000,, I know that since I got up over 80 my take home pay has stayed the same, that extra your so worried about goes back in the kitty to pay for YOUR roads etc etc
3/31/2014 11:53:45 AM
S Duncan says:
Oh, look, another person that doesn't understand that people paid with tax dollars don't actually contribute to the tax base.

Have you met lori yet?
3/31/2014 4:36:44 PM
mystified says:
I hear they are biting better on twitter so why don't you mosey on over there and troll. You're getting worse.
3/31/2014 7:15:59 PM
moneyfornothing says:
Clearly firemen should be paid at a much lower rate. Cops and Paramedics should be on par.
We do not have fires everyday like someone posted earlier. My friend is a dispatcher and she cannot believe the lack of calls in the city especially when compared to the police. Several trucks rarely leave the firehall at all. Firemen are not held to the same standard and do not have the same accountability as ambulance and police. All the inappropriate photographs from the Brown Street Fire Hall speaks volumes. Cops are always thrown into the middle of controversy where they have to make a decision and apply the constantly changing laws of our land. Then to top it all off they are grilled over their actions in court on their days. Paramedics have a whole list of people they must be accountable for. If your car happens to go in the lake firemen do not go underwater to get you, or if their is a bomb in a seniors home they wont go in. The paramedics and cops will.
3/31/2014 12:18:38 PM
Archer says:
I guess for Moneyfornothing its easy to spew out inaccurate and very untrue statements I usually find a lot of humor in these comments but this guy is truly bitter and I can only assume that he/she tried to become a police officer or firefighter but failed. Good luck and enjoy your sour grapes!
3/31/2014 5:13:05 PM
udecide says:
" Theangryone" you should look for another job if you cannot handle your 30 kids.....you are are an embarrassment to other teachers by your comments. You sound like you are going to
" snap " at any time. Dont worry though Police/EMS will lokok after you ( while firefighters help carry your stretcher )
4/1/2014 10:41:38 AM
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