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2014-04-09 at 13:35

Pothole season

A vehicle attempts to avoid a pothole on High Street Wednesday afternoon.
Chase Kruger, tbnewswatch.com
A vehicle attempts to avoid a pothole on High Street Wednesday afternoon.
By Jamie Smith, tbnewswatch.com

Warmer weather is the final ingredient for the perfect pothole recipe.

And that recent spike in temperatures has put the city in a seemingly neverending battle with the crater-like road obstacles that are now popping up.

Milder temperatures means water on the roads, which seeps into cracks in the asphalt. When night falls and the temperature drops, the water turns to ice and expands. Expanding ice lifts the asphalt, leaving motorists with new bumps to deal with every morning.

Roads manager Brad Adams said crews have been out everyday filling in the scourges of spring. 

"It's a continuous process. As soon as we put the material in, traffic get to it or water gets into it and sometimes we have to go back," he said.

While the city doesn't have any numbers yet, Adams said this year is similar to last year in terms of the work being done to fill potholes.

Anyone looking to report a pothole can call 625-2195 or visit the city's website .


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alyssacrark says:
I never realized that whole areas of roadway are desertion from the curb. It's very bad situation out there!
4/16/2014 3:04:31 AM
unheard says:
the city councils sheep at it again
"winnipeg has way more water main breaks "
now its "winnipeg has way worse roads"
so funny
4/10/2014 6:09:56 PM
fastball says:
Take a second and Google "potholes in Winnipeg" to get a sense of their issues. When it gets to the point where ambulance drivers are complaining - you know you've got a problem.
Thunder Bay is NOT unique in our pothole woes.
4/11/2014 10:57:33 AM
fastball says:
People...this headline has probably appeared every spring locally - and probably in every community in northern Canada.
It's winter...and winter creates chaos with pavement. Road beds heave with the frost, causing pavement to buckle. We salt the holy hell out of our streets, so the ice melts and trickles into cracks and refreezes again....busting up even more of the pavement.
Until we stop using so much salt, it's just going to be the same.
We could spend ten times the amount of money on roads - but frost happens every winter. And unless we change our salting practices, nothing's going to change.
4/10/2014 3:32:12 PM
Eastender says:
You want good roads, or an event centre?
You cant have both!
4/10/2014 10:45:34 AM
sky high says:
Should we have a plebiscite? Events Centre, Potholes, or The Potholes?
4/10/2014 11:15:44 AM
bttnk says:
@ Eastender - Comments and logic like yours are precisely why proponents of the Event Centre and city council are having a hard time taking the "Concerned Citizens" seriously and why a plebiscite at any point is unlikely.
4/10/2014 1:22:21 PM
Eastender says:
Bttnk: The comment is made tongue in cheek. Surely you understand dark humour!
4/10/2014 6:21:54 PM
Me n My Opinion says:
Based on your past comments, it's not hard to take your above comment as your genuine opinion.
4/11/2014 10:19:01 AM
LetRrip says:
I don’t know why this is breaking news and being spun as an “isolated incident” due to “weather.” The roads in this city have been subpar as long as I have had a license. What I learned: there is no point in spending money on a nice car because between the crap roads and loose asphalt half fast approach to fixing the holes, a nice car doesn’t stay “nice” for very long.
4/10/2014 8:44:16 AM
SomeGuy says:
A lot of you must be engineers.
4/10/2014 8:29:02 AM
stonecutter says:
I think the city does a pretty good job of staying on top of potholes.
4/10/2014 8:14:19 AM
S Duncan says:
Thats precisely the problem... they are physically on top of them.

they need to fix whats under them to solve the problem.

lets face it, pot hole repair is no different than putting a bandaid on a broken leg. The broken legs need to be mended before we keep wasting money on more band aids... or new sunglasses (welfare dome)
4/10/2014 3:33:30 PM
nvjgu says:
Get rid of the pavement, leave it dirt. At least it could be graded. I have been on better logging roads.
4/10/2014 7:40:39 AM
The Beaver..... says:
@ tsb.. try Victoria Ave.in the so called Bike Lane
@ razor burn you are wrong in your statement and you know it
4/10/2014 7:34:35 AM
tbayvoter says:
Razor_burn has a good point.... The Scandinaivien countries do NOT have near this many issues... Something can be learned from them and their road maintenance.
4/10/2014 12:14:45 PM
Rob20 says:
With modern technology camp the city start utilizing something like this?
4/10/2014 7:28:56 AM
razor_burn says:
If the roads were paved properly using the correct materials this would never happen. As usual however, lowest bidder, sub par materials and this is what you get.
4/10/2014 12:11:29 AM
Gotta ask says:
No kidding..... Cumberland was just done last summer and it's a mess.... Right from day one of completion, there were permanent puddles formed because the road is lower than the sewer grates..... How about hiring competent contractors....
4/10/2014 1:39:38 PM
tsb says:
Stay in the driving lanes on Simpson Street, don't drive in the parking lanes. A few locations near the intersection with Ogden have cracks near the curb that reveal four foot deep voids under the asphalt.
4/9/2014 11:38:39 PM
unheard says:
get what you pay for
cutting cost in advance to earmark for event centre
4/9/2014 11:15:37 PM
TBDR says:
yeah... cuz it's not like the city is spending record $$$ on infrastructure renewal this year... oh wait... they are.
4/10/2014 2:03:43 AM
Watchful says:
This is our usual welcome to spring
4/9/2014 10:38:53 PM
reese says:
Only to get worse soon we will need to use water base asphalt to keep the tree huggers happy
4/9/2014 9:25:05 PM
ranma says:
So how's that study of durability for concrete going? We have 1 street that was done in concrete, how many decades ago..and it's still fine. So when is the city going to conclude that concrete is the way to go, instead of asphalt?
4/9/2014 9:24:35 PM
DougMyers says:

That road (a portion of Balmoral between Miles and Victoria Ave) is not fine. It may not have holes but the heaving means an unsafe drive at anything over 25 km/h.

I would not want the rest of our roads to be like that.
4/10/2014 9:28:35 AM
Vanity says:
Balmoral from Williams to Central is pretty bad. Can't really drive in any curb lane unless you have lots of money for repairs.
4/9/2014 8:46:45 PM
Basher says:
Just returning from Winnipeg today. If you think we have it bad this year, go for a drive through the 'peg! Every road was a hazard and full of potholes and mini-lakes. It's not crumbling infrastructure due to neglect or improper maintenance...it is spring time in Canada.
4/9/2014 8:18:04 PM
sky high says:
The problem is that all of the people (well it's about a dozen or so but they have dozens of accounts so it seems like more) whining about potholes have never been anywhere outside Thunder Bay so they think this is a problem unique to Thunder Bay. If they actually got on a bus and took a trip to Winnipeg they would think to themselves 'geee, thousands of potholes and yet they have a nice arena and a professional hockey team.'
4/10/2014 10:33:58 AM
nvjgu says:
Roads are pathetic all year. Whole town need's to be dug up, no just skimming the top layer off the cracked pavement and paveing over top of the old cracked pavement which cracks the new pavement. Cheap asphalt.
4/9/2014 6:01:50 PM
Tbaylifer 1 says:
Instead of the city asking the public to report a pothole it would make more sense to report a road way.
Oh, well. There goes the 670,000 savings from this years road projects.
Maybe, in the future we could get a Renew Thunder Bay Roads Fund.
You know. Like the Renew Thunder Bay Multiplex Fund.
Hopefully before the Renew Thunder Bay Conservatory Fund or the Renew Thunder Bay Art Gallary Fund or the Renew Thunder Bay Bike Lane Fund.
Don't worry though city council knows," what we want and what we need". LOL
4/9/2014 5:09:17 PM
S Duncan says:
yes, I saw the cold patch crew out this past Sunday getting that double time pay!
4/9/2014 4:56:13 PM
rootbear says:
heck, give 'em triple time! If money needs to be spent it's on these roads. I never realized how bad they were until I got my motorcycle license. Between the drivers and potholes I can't take my eyes off the road for a second!
4/9/2014 5:03:47 PM
S Duncan says:
well, heck with it, just give them $1200 a day, they're risking their lives every day to make our city safer.

We have no shortage of money to give them.
4/9/2014 5:22:18 PM
New Democrat says:
Don't you believe in a free market? If you want the road maintained, then buy it from the city, maintain it, and set up a tollbooth.

If you want the roads maintained, then pay for it. We taxpayers are sick of paying for your welfare projects. I likely don't drive in your neighbourhood, so I don't want to pay for it.

Maybe when you become a responsible taxpaying adult, you'll find less time to constantly comment on TBNewsWatch and more time to get out there with a bucket of cold patch.
4/10/2014 4:55:52 AM
Decide says:
Yep couldn't agree more. Pay them minimum wage to do this. Wait....have to privitize this first. Then you can pay them cheap. Overall costs would still be the same, but the private company could skimp out on quality product to encrease their bottom line. That way they could buy 60k trucks with a little company decal on it that they could then write off, making even more on the bottom line!! Hopefully all this could eventually be made private, that way we could be even more like the states with a extinct middle class and 1% top end being the ”job creators”.
Good call.
Btw.....how do you know their shifts weren't changed so that they would be working at straight time? Wait....forget that, it would still be too much....gotta get em down to $10/hour to make you, mr neo con wannabe happy.
4/10/2014 6:51:44 AM
S Duncan says:
There is NOTHING "neo-conservative" about me or the statements Ive made on this site.

I don't think you actually know what a "neo" con is. Its not just a label you can throw around to make all Conservatives sound scarier to you.

Im traditional Conservative, and taking issue with overpaid civil service unions working for double time for non urgent issues such as cold patching potholes that will be back again next week, is a conservative view point.

not a "neo" con one.

thanks for showing everyone your ignorance aloud though, we enjoyed the laugh at your expense.
4/10/2014 10:50:56 AM
Decide says:
I know what a neocon is. I also know what a socialist is. I can define both for you if you like.

You throw the word socialist around this site like it is candy. Learn what socialism is. It isn't government run jobs. It isn't people employed by a city. It also isn't people on assistance etc. It is a world with no private business. Everything owned and controlled by the gov't. I can define communism or communist too if you like (another fav of yours).

Neo con has digressed from its original meaning, and is now commonly used to include all those who oppose any type of big gov't, or hand outs, or excessive gov't spending. It doesn't mean that, but today, it is what is used to describe that type of person.

That would be you. As judged by your many, many posts.

You can't have it both ways, accuse others of ignorance when you do the same.

Btw, I doubt you know what a traditional conservative actually is. You do not fit the definition one bit.
4/10/2014 5:12:25 PM
thunderbaycouncel says:
its not similar to last year, i dont remember it being this bad! its brutal out there!
4/9/2014 4:08:56 PM
virtualrealityczech says:
It doesn't seem to be just pot holes... whole areas of roadway are deteriorating from the curb... just look at Fort William Road!
4/9/2014 2:18:43 PM
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