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2014-04-15 at NOON

First quarter variance puts city police one per cent in the red

By tbnewswatch.com

The city’s police budget is expected to take a small dip into the red after the first quarter.

The Thunder Bay Police Service revealed its estimated first quarter variance at the regular scheduled police service board meeting Tuesday morning.

The variance report shows that the city’s force is expected to be about one per cent over budget, or about $322,000.

Software updates and facility costs are expected to ring are the expected culprits for the first quarter variance.

But the budget could even out. Police chief JP Levesque told CKPR Radio Monday that while they did see some overage in labour costs, it could even out with the possible savings expected from the new courthouse.

“It’s very time consuming to prepare a full court docket with paper,” the chief said, adding that the new courthouse will allow for many of the court briefs to be done electronically.

“So if we can put (the documents together) electronically and give it to the Crown attorneys it will be far more efficient and should save us some time.” 

(CKPR Radio)

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The Beaver..... says:
On top of that, arbitrators are allowed to settle union contracts without regard to the municipalities’ ability to pay. Ontario’s Liberal government could have changed the legislation and put an end to that, but it chose not to. Benchmarking creates a perpetual leapfrog to the top, and the ripple effects flow across the country.
That is the real problem we now have the police performing menial tasks under the cover of Crime with a very big paycheck. Rescuing a dog or cat can be done much more cost effective by Civilians. Under the system of bench marking the OPP just got a 8.8 %of pay increase. Go Figure the Province is broke beyond repair
4/17/2014 12:35:21 PM
The Beaver..... says:
That’s the way it is across much of Canada. The cops and firefighters are taking home the biggest paycheques in town. While other public-sector salaries are frozen, their pay is rising faster than inflation. And the cost is eating small-town budgets alive.
4/17/2014 8:12:09 AM
The Badger Mountain Hermit says:
Next, it will be...gas for cruisers went up on May Long Weekend..what a surprise.
4/16/2014 9:20:24 PM
tsb says:
Haha, kind of ironic: $322,000 is about what we'd save if we cut city council in half!

(Solely in terms of salary. The reduced size of council however will increase the burden on the remaining councillors who will delegate more work to administration, resulting in the hiring of more city staff and those staff often get paid more than the councillors they would be replacing. But they would APPEAR to save money, and that's more important!)
4/16/2014 7:34:04 PM
The Beaver..... says:
hmmm... who would have thought
4/16/2014 6:56:15 PM
SomeGuy says:
Let's say you make $50,000 a year, it's like going over your family budget by $40.00 each month.
4/16/2014 6:28:32 PM
S Duncan says:
so where are you going to get that $40 from?

If you spent all your money.. where do you get more?
4/17/2014 9:42:49 AM
timeforchange says:
The same old song.

Does anyone recall that about this time last year, the Chief was going to find savings for 2014. March was too late in the year to look for 2013 savings.

Later in the year the new shift schedule for officers was going to make savings for the budget.

Now if we can put documents together electronically then now we will get some savings.

It never ends with this group. They are like the Leafs. Wait till next year.

If things are being done electronically can we assume that they will reduce staff and get this overinflated underperforming organization actually doing something.

And before police officer Boar responds with how good they are maybe this time he can speak to why T.Bay year in and year out for 10, 20, 30 years continues to rank poorly in drug abuse violence and all those other great categories that show just how bad things are in this town.

Just because you don't always hear about them does not mean they do not happen.
4/16/2014 4:58:14 PM
Decide says:
Not going to comment on your budget comments, mainly because they seem to be about right. But I will ask you to explain your comment on the police under performing. Explain that, and provide facts to support it. Just how are they underperforming? Facts please.

And please don't use drug and alcohol abuse to support your argument. Those are social problems. Remember, police enforce laws we tell them to. They are an extension of you. They ENFORCE laws, not solve social issues.

Just like it isn't the police who release accused persons, its the courts who do that. Feel free to call the court system underperforming. Or broken. Question those bloated costs. The are the unaccountable, especially judges.

Blame the social services for those other problems, drugs, alcohol, the spinoffs associated to it, as they are SOCIAL SERVICES.

Again, I beg...facts please.
4/16/2014 6:03:02 PM
mystified says:
Those are the costs with fighting crime and keeping the people safe.
There are hundreds of hours spent investigating crimes. If the police didn't do it they would get tarred and feathered by the Cop Haters in this town.
But they will still get flake from the haters just because that is the way those people are.
Keep up the great work.
4/16/2014 4:29:48 PM
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