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2014-04-22 at 10:24

52 days of gridlock

FILE -- Patient alcoves are temporarily set up at the Thunder Bay Regional Health Sciences Centre in this tbnewswatch.com file photograph. These alcoves led to a fire code violation and while they’re no longer used as a makeshift fix, gridlock continues to be an issue at the region
FILE -- Patient alcoves are temporarily set up at the Thunder Bay Regional Health Sciences Centre in this tbnewswatch.com file photograph. These alcoves led to a fire code violation and while they’re no longer used as a makeshift fix, gridlock continues to be an issue at the region's hospital.
By tbnewswatch.com

THUNDER BAY -- The region’s hospital witnessed a 105 per cent jump in the number of gridlock days in 2013. 

Last year there were 190 days when the Thunder Bay Regional Health Sciences Centre had more patients waiting for admission than there were beds available. The trend has so far continued into 2014. 

From the end of December until mid-February, there were 52 consecutive days of gridlock at the hospital. That's the longest stretch to date. 

Vice-president of patient services Rhonda Crocker Ellacott said the frequency is directly related to the number of alternative level of care patients. 

She added that last week there were 80 people waiting to be moved to an ALC space in the city.

The Health Sciences Centre is now at 35 straight days of gridlock.

This news comes after last month’s announcement from Minister of Health and Long-Term Care Deb Matthews that a $14 million investment would go toward opening 53 new beds in facilities throughout the city. 

Hospital officials hope that will help the system function better overall.

(Thunder Bay Television)

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Stephen says:
Never mind all that, we need an intense discussion about what the the nurses wear. Sheesh!
4/24/2014 9:36:05 AM
captain says:

last time I took a look at the health care agenda here, it was city council that decided to close senior homes. 300 beds I think is the number.
that meant the province either allowed 300 seniors to lose their residence or they had to come up with a solution for T.Bay.

So they are funding 450 new beds or so.

So yes, the dirty dozen as they have been referred to, do have some say in our health care.

And what did the dirty dozen say.

That the money they borrowed for seniors is better spent putting up condo's in Marina Park.

That is what the dirty dozen think about seniors in our city.
4/24/2014 6:34:32 AM
Watchful says:
To btttnk, the assisted living apt that you refer to is filled with many people who should be a home already. And when the nursing home part is completed, they will be closing 3 nursing homes. So we will be in the same hole as we are now, unless they keep all the homes opened. You are the one out of touch and yes I know as my mother lives in the apt building and ever second day when I go over I see way too many of them that cannot even push the button in the elevator and have their room number written on their walkers so that you know which button to push to get them to the correct floor. As my mother says, it is part dementia accommodation and part seniors with their marbles
4/23/2014 9:31:55 PM
Richy says:
I do understand how to maintain the new wing,its called tax dollars. How else was this hospital built. Its amazing what we have tax dollars for but not this.
4/23/2014 12:08:41 PM
canuckchick1980 says:
Those who keep saying to "build another wing" don't understand that an actual physical bed for a patient is only part of the problem. Money still needs to be found to have nurses and doctors to take care of the patiends occupying this new space, food must be prepared, it must be mainained, cleaned, and heated. Where do the funds come for that? It is not as simple as just "building".
4/23/2014 10:06:42 AM
Eastender says:
You dont need more doctors and nurses, just reschedule the same ones who are looking after these patients now to a new facility, which could be built adjacent to the hospital for convenience.
4/23/2014 11:23:04 AM
canuckchick1980 says:
Reschedule?? Are you kidding me? Most of those who look after ALC patients also have a full load of acute care patients. This is not simply a space issue, it is staffing / patient & healthcare team safety issue.
4/23/2014 1:42:21 PM
Eastender says:
There is plenty of money for all sorts of nonsense, just redirect that cash to where it is needed, and hire the appropriate staff. Plenty of nurses looking for work.
4/24/2014 12:03:50 AM
joey joe joe jr. shabadoo says:
Make the new hospital with an arena built in it....hahaha....

"Health Sciences Arena"

4/23/2014 5:25:54 AM
Tbaylifer 1 says:
What should we expect from a government that is focused on corporate profit rather then care of the elderly. Not keeping up with the need for long term care beds while creating a need for the private sector to come in and provide less care at a higher cost to the individual. I don't get me started on the," aging at home strategy". Shameful.
4/22/2014 4:09:47 PM
tsb says:
Aging at home is a good strategy, and a lot of seniors want it, but it shouldn't be the ONLY strategy. Unfortunately, people are being forced to chose between either in-home care (expensive) or sitting on a stretcher in a hallway for weeks (inconvenient).

There were supposed to be long term care beds build to go along with the hospital, and the province axed that plan years ago.
4/22/2014 5:39:59 PM
dockboy says:
grid-lock; see Thunder Bay Regional Health Sciences Centre.
4/22/2014 3:19:34 PM
Richy says:
If 52 days is the record then what are we worrying about. It seems to mean that the provincial and federal governments aren't. Maybe they should of build bigger hall ways.
4/22/2014 2:46:17 PM
insertcorrectpunctuationhere says:
@Richy - the answer is right in the article. 52 straight days of gridlock, longest stretch to date.
4/22/2014 1:55:46 PM
LetRrip says:
If they built another wing there would just be more people ALC in those beds as well! The problem lies within long term care facilities and TBRHSC being a "dumping" ground for people who can not go home and didnt plan their future far enough to put themselves on a LTC wait list...
4/22/2014 1:44:50 PM
Richy says:
I wonder what the record is for straight days of gridlock? Do they keep tabs on these kind of things? Maybe they should build another wing on the hospital.
4/22/2014 11:45:27 AM
bttnk says:
@ Richy - Another wing at the hospital won't matter if 1 in 4 beds continue to be occupied by patients that no longer require hospital care.

One of the biggest causes of gridlock is the inability to discharge patients who no longer need hospital care – patients who cannot go home because there are insufficient supports at home, or are waiting for a bed in a rehabilitation hospital, nursing home or other assisted living facility. These patients are described as needing alternate level of care (ALC). An inability to discharge ALC patients is one of the root causes of long emergency department wait times.

4/22/2014 2:27:56 PM
Eastender says:
Now here is a noble use for that 106 million dollars. Why not use it to build adequate facilities for those now occupying space in the hospital. Move them, and eliminate the gridlock. Now it costs less to look after the chronicly afflicted and the quality of emergency and aftercare is greatly enhanced. Problem solved!

Nah, never convince the dirty dozen of that.

Yes, I know, I'm using this story to promote my opinion, but hey if the shoe fits?
4/22/2014 6:41:41 PM
bttnk says:
@ Eastender - You might be using the story to promote your opinion, but also to show that you are out of touch with what is going on in this city.

Currently there is a development under-way to offer assist with the current issue. The St. Joseph’s Care Group CEISS project is a campus development plan offering 544 longterm care accommodations together with 132 supportive housing apartment units.

Phase 1 of the project is complete and Phase 2 is underway.
4/23/2014 11:21:09 AM
Eastender says:
Thank you for the update, I was not aware of this. I'll try and do my homework next time.
4/23/2014 1:40:11 PM
hadenough says:
You do realize that "the dirty dozen" as you call them have absolutely nothing to do with health care right. It's a provincial responsibility not a municipal one.
4/23/2014 12:00:45 PM
Eastender says:
No they dont have any direct control of health care, however they do have considerable influence in lobbying for funds for worthwhile projects, but they squander their influence towards pursueing castles in the sky.
4/23/2014 1:36:40 PM
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