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2014-05-14 at 16:30

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FILE -- Evacuees from Kashechewan First Nations arrive in Thunder Bay. The residents of the remote, far north community were forced from their homes over the weekend due to flooding conditions.
Matt Vis, tbnewswatch.com
FILE -- Evacuees from Kashechewan First Nations arrive in Thunder Bay. The residents of the remote, far north community were forced from their homes over the weekend due to flooding conditions.
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By Jamie Smith, tbnewswatch.com

THUNDER BAY -- The city's fire chief doesn't put too much stock into reports that evacuees from Kashechewan will be out of their homes for at least three months.

With almost 600 people forced out of their community because of flooding now in Thunder Bay, Thunder Bay Fire Rescue chief John Hay said the province's emergency operations centre doesn't have a timeline and likely won't until a damage assessment can be done on the community.

"That's the only verified information that we can really work off of," he said.

Some media reports, and even a Kashechewan spokesman, said residents wouldn't be heading home for at least three months. Hay said it's unlikely anyone knows that for sure right now.

"What's hard to get is information from the community up there as to conditions and things like that," he said.

Evacuees are now in hotels and the city's parks and recreation departments are setting up programming.

Hotels have also pitched in with things like movie nights Hay said. There's no set amount of days before more permanent accommodations need to be found. Hay said there are several options but its up to community members to figure out what their needs are and request them.

"They're pretty good at identifying what their needs are," he said.


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Jeannied says:
There was a news story on a local radio program this morning that references the nasty and racist comments in the comments section of this website this morning, and how people on Facebook found it disturbing enough to create a group about. People listening now know that there are dissipating attitudes about these refugees being made, and it talked about how people reaching out to the refugees welcoming them was he result. So you trolls making hurtful selfish remarks lose.
5/14/2014 5:03:26 PM
Miles August says:
You should google the word refugee and find out what it actually means. Based on your usage I think you'll be surprised.
5/15/2014 1:44:10 AM
King Farouk says:
you are missing the point.
5/15/2014 9:43:59 AM
Miles August says:
No I understood the point even though it is completely inaccurate as TBNewswatch never once posted a racist comment about the EVACUEES (not refugees). The editors preview every post before putting it on here. If a post is even remotely racist it will never be posted. To further MY point, a Refugee is a person forced to flee their country due to ongoing war in which they fear they will be killed or persecuted based on religious beliefs or ethnicity. The evacuees have never left Canada. There is no war to flee only flood waters. and its the government who is moving them to safety while footing 100% of the bill, not trying to kill them. I'd go into the backwards use of the word dissipate but I think you get MY POINT.
5/15/2014 11:47:23 AM
Sargon says:
The CBC piece interviewing the lady was really embarrassing.
This morning my daughter was paired with another girl her age in a volunteering welcome activity and the girl from Kashechewan had read the things said here by some and was terrified of being in this city because of it. It was upsetting for me to hear that because I read this site regularly.
Some people just don't care how their words can hurt others. Disgusting!

I don't care how you feel and what your self righteous attitudes are, you have no right to assume to tell a whole people how to "better themselves" like they are savages living like feral people.
5/15/2014 4:08:10 AM
S Duncan says:
Words dont hurt others. Reality does. If somebody is emotionally hurt by words perhaps its because the truth hurts?

You cannot hide and call everybody a racist hoping your problems will go away. That only prolongs the hurt.
5/15/2014 11:08:44 AM
Steamy says:
I'm sorry but if people like you see racism in every corner of society you are perpetuating your own culture of fear and creating this problem for yourself.

Then you go on to say "I don't care how you feel and what your self righteous attitudes are.."

Now who exactly is self righteous? You are telling people how they are supposed to think, feel and act because the only way to do that is to be in full accordance with your expectations. You are displaying a very self righteous attitude.

In Canada people are allowed to think, feel, speak and form their own opinions. If people have formed their own opinions that's there business. They have formed them entirely on their own and they can believe what they want to believe.

You cannot tell people how they should feel and think. We have the right to our own opinion.

Stop projecting racism on everybody and everything because it makes you guilty of everything you accuse others of being.
5/15/2014 12:03:20 PM
shortpeter says:
Could you give us examples of the racist comments you referring to. There is always someone complaining about racist comments on this website, but never backed up with facts. There is a big difference between racist comments and comments that hurt your feelings but are valid opinions from others. unsubstantiated comments are hurtful to some people. You have made accusations you need to back up with proof.
By the way, a local radio station? Gee, who would that be? Does it rhyme with SleepyC.
5/15/2014 7:49:52 AM
1234 says:
I hope with such an extended stay away from home that there is a plan in place to re-unite these residents with their pets. If they weren't already to bring them with .With talk of high suicide rates on reserves abandoning a pet sends the wrong message to the youngsters of these communities. This is something that needs to be addressed pets should be treated with respect.
5/15/2014 9:07:56 AM
Ricknb says:
Someone should be held accountable, if racist comments are being posted/allowed on this site!

I thought this was a moderated site?

5/15/2014 9:12:39 AM
S Duncan says:
The only racists comments here started with the first one under this story.

It takes a racist to see racism.
5/15/2014 11:11:06 AM
Duncan Debunker says:
My less eloquent and articulate friend here has a point...

There is an inherent contradiction in singling out a group for their attitudes towards another group. Hate breeds hate, as they say.

As much as I disagree with much of the opinions expressed by our dear friend Duncan, you cannot simply dismiss him. For his is a common view. If it were simply racism, it wouldn't be so abundant. This is a point often lost on those who champion social issues.

The goal should not be to SEGREGATE the opposing views as much as possible and see who his standing on the biggest block. Our goal should be to CONSOLIDATE all views and opinions, debate the issues, and come to solutions that are satisfactory, efficient and are for the betterment of all involved.

"If we love our country, we should also love our countrymen" - Ronald Reagan
5/15/2014 2:35:56 PM
opinions2014 says:
"There is no legal definition as there is for a refugee. However, a United Nations report, Guiding Principles on Internal Displacement uses the definition:" Who cares if the word refugee is used correctly or not, these people are displaced from their homes and they have no clue when they will return. So if you are a proud Thunder Bayan show some compassion and empathy(sorry to say a lot of locally born people lack this greatyly). These people are human and would love to be at home too.
5/15/2014 10:00:18 AM
Duncan Debunker says:
What racist comments are being referenced here? I have seen none. In fact I will be the first to say that the editorial team here does a very good job moderating the hate in this city.

The fact is there is a large and vocal population in this city/country that fits the US "tea party" mold quite nicely. Very conservative. Anti-welfare, anti-government and only believe in a system that helps those that help themselves. (I'll leave out the less flattering comparisons).

To ignore or dismiss these people as "old" or simply "racist" will do nothing to bring us together as community. Why must we define ourselves as either "old, ignorant racists" or "young, hippie socialists"?

Whether we like it or not, we all share this city. We don't have to love everybody, but we do have to respect them.

I'll leave off with this definition of:

tolerance: fair, objective, and permissive attitude toward those whose opinions, practices, race, religion, nationality, etc., differ from one's own.
5/15/2014 11:18:55 AM
Cisher says:
"A racist person hates a different kind of people, but EVERYONE DISLIKES a racist."

HaH!!!

My aunt raised me to just remember "if someones going to take their god given emotions and waste them on hating you or your people, then thats their loss and your spotlight my boy. Make em squirm " and as my granny once said " Hates not a good feeling" .

So to that, just let em waste emotions. Weather they have Cr@py lives or additudes, that's theirs not ours.

CIsher
5/15/2014 12:52:42 PM
Tawil says:
Awesome attitude and your aunt was a smart lady!!

I think from the way people are addicted to posting here so much they make fake identities they are living empty crappy lives and maybe they'll someday realize real life is out there waiting for them.
5/15/2014 8:10:31 PM
what'sup says:
I would hate to have to leave my home, perhaps my pet and not know when I would be returning or what condition my home is in. It is intimidating to be flown to a larger centre to live in a hotel. I do not like living out of a suitcase for very long when I am on a vacation. I can only imagine what it feels like for these individuals. I hope residents of Thunder Bay make our visitors feel welcome.
5/15/2014 1:15:55 PM
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