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2014-07-28 at 22:09

Youth centre backed

Coun. Andrew Foulds (right) introduced the amendment passed by city council on Monday to grant $25,000 to Youth Centres Thunder Bay.
Matt Vis, tbnewswatch.com
Coun. Andrew Foulds (right) introduced the amendment passed by city council on Monday to grant $25,000 to Youth Centres Thunder Bay.
By Matt Vis, tbnewswatch.com

THUNDER BAY -- Council is giving a Victoriaville youth centre a bridge to remain open, against the will of city administration.

A motion introduced by Coun. Andrew Foulds to grant Youth Centres Thunder Bay $25,000 to remain operational through the end of the year, as well as continuing to have access to city assets and equipment, was unanimously approved by council at Monday night’s meeting.

“It became clear the youth centre is important and serves a vital demographic- marginalized youth,” Foulds said while introducing the amendment.

As the debate wore on many other councillors voiced their support for keeping the group afloat.

Coun. Paul Pugh was one of the strongest proponents of supporting the youth centre.

Pugh argued that while there are other youth centres throughout the city they offer different things for different groups of youth.

“They’re not doing the same thing,” he said.

Pugh also openly doubted that current council had provided enough supports to the city’s youth.

“It’s by no means enough,” he said of the proposal in front of council. “It’s not where we want to end up but it’s what we have in front of us (right now).”

Mayor Keith Hobbs took issue with that stance, citing a laundry list of past youth-focused initiatives council had given the green light during their term.

The centre was established as an 18-month pilot project designed to serve youth from remote First Nations communities attending school in the city.

The city initially contributed more than $120,000 for the program, with the Wasaya Group Inc. contributing rental fees up to April 1 of this year. The organization then became responsible for that cost.

The $25,000 will ensure the centre can continue to run through to the end of December, during which time they will find out the status of other funding applications.

A $5,000 option was also presented, which would have provided a brief reprieve of a couple of months so they could conduct other fundraising.

With the municipal election looming, Coun. Joe Virdiramo said it would be hypocritical for incumbents to make campaign trail claims of championing the city’s youth if they voted against the motion.

It would be “shameful” to not provide the support, he said.

While the report from administration indicated the centre was not primarily attended by students from remote First Nations it became popular for youth from Pope John Paul School, St. Patrick’s High School, Regional Multicultural Youth Centre, and Sea Cadets

Several of those youth, as well as Youth Centres Thunder Bay president Colleen Peters, were present in the gallery during the meeting.

City manager Tim Commisso acknowledged the pilot project was a success but also said the group’s funding model had changed, specifically Youth Centres Thunder Bay becoming responsible for the rental costs.

The group had not provided administration with a balanced budget for next year, which he added was a red flag.

The Youth Services Plan, which had been previously approved by council, had certain criteria for determining funding for groups and a long-term centre.

The Victoriaville site, lacking outdoor green space and indoor size restraints limiting the accommodation of a gymnasium or multi-purpose rooms, is only an interim location.

Only the Boys and Girls Club and the Evergreen United Neighbourhood have been currently designated as satellite program sites.

The Youth Services Task Force, which will be established this fall, will determine the complete set of site criteria.

Youth Centres Thunder Bay will be assisted in applying to the city’s Community, Youth and Culture Funding Program if it is interested in doing so next year.

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Joe-King says:
Maybe if parents acted like parents a facility like this wouldn't be needed...
7/29/2014 5:19:19 PM
j_northey says:
I think a map showing where all these centres are would be a useful thing for kids. I had to do multiple searches for multiple word combinations to get 4 spots. It has been shown that having activities for kids pays off at a very high rate and we need to keep seeing these investments made.

FYI: I used to live in Georgetown (near Toronto) and there was extremely little for kids there. Thunder Bay is impressive with the efforts but as always more can be done. I'm glad to see this initiative, even though it isn't helping the group it was intended for, continue on.
7/29/2014 10:12:08 AM
communistguy says:
Something like this should never have to go to a vote, it should be budgeted every year. give the youth something constructive in the community, the more options they have to do something constructive the less likely they will do something negative or wrong, potentially saving money on police costs. sad to see that drug and alcohol users have more places to go and given drugs and alcohol to help them then there is for places to kids to go!
7/29/2014 9:59:14 AM
tbayokay says:
First of all, this is a Multicultural Centre, they do much more programming than strictly First Nations education. You should become more aware before commenting on such things. Second, having worked there as a teenager, I never felt like there was a lot of fiscal responsibility. While the work they do is good, I do notice year after year that the RMYC is looking for money over and over again. I have several questions to that effect that should be given some consideration by council next time this issue arises. First, the RMYCs parent organization is the Multicultural Association of Northwestern Ontario. What are they doing to help? Second, how Council considered an actual buy in?I think instead of continuing to hand out money, this program could easily be adopted into the recreation or culture division and that way they can have some assistance sustaining operations in a more real way.
7/29/2014 8:24:28 AM
dillon says:
This is not RMYC. This is Youth Centres Thunder Bay. Completely different organizations. This one has only been around for less than two years. Perhaps you're the one who should be more aware before you make incorrect claims about fiscal responsibility that confuse people. It already was funded by the city as a pilot project.
7/29/2014 12:09:28 PM
barrows says:
Maybe people are confused as to whos youth centre it is by some remarks made. I have heard someone from RMYC comment that it is "our centre in Victoriaville".
7/29/2014 2:09:58 PM
Jim Halpert says:
I missed the council meeting on shaw tonight, but I thought that the business plan was lacking key information as reported in this article: http://www.tbnewswatch.com/news/350897/Council-preview-Youth-Centre-funding
7/29/2014 12:02:42 AM
tbay87 says:
While this was probably the right decision, it's unfortunate the city has to pick up the federal government's slack. First Nation education is a federal responsibility, and they should be ensuring kids who have to leave their communities for school have the proper support.
7/28/2014 11:01:12 PM
signman says:
Another victory for the people.
First the victory over the wind farm fiasco and now this.
7/28/2014 10:48:41 PM
smartguy83 says:
Unfortunate that a program like this is so important but I think this was a no brainer for Council. Just please know where to draw the line.
7/28/2014 10:37:10 PM
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