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2014-08-01 at 17:20

What's the rush?

By Matt Vis, tbnewswatch.com
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THUNDER BAY -- The president of Unifor Local 1075 doesn’t think Bombardier needs to rush to get a completed train car moved out of the Montreal Street plant.

Dominic Pasqualino on Friday said company officials are scheduled to meet with senior Unifor members on Tuesday to talk about procedures for moving the car to have it shipped to Toronto. The company has to provide the union with 72 hours of notice before moving a car.

However, Pasqualino met with officials of the Toronto Transit Commission on Thursday and was told the car was not immediately required for the unveiling of new cars later this month.

“They said they’re not in a hurry for that car right now. They don’t need it. I think if management is moving it out of the plant they’re either doing it for a payment or they’re trying to provoke the members,” he said.

The cars that were being worked on prior the now nearly three-week long labour dispute are for replacement purposes and would swap out existing cars currently in service.

The company has guaranteed one car to the TTC, which plans to have it go into service on Aug. 31 with others that have already been completed and sent to the provincial capital.

From what he heard earlier this week, Pasqualino doesn’t think the cars are immediately needed for another six to 12 months.

Members of the local Bombardier management team, who are not on strike, have been working on the cars since members of the union walked off the job on July 14.

That is concerning the union president.

“I think there might have been a couple who have worked on the line in the past but most of them don’t have the skills required. I don’t think they even have the basic safe operating procedures for some of these things,” he said.

Among the meeting with TTC officials, Pasqualino also met with a number of parties, including officials with the federal, provincial and Toronto municipal government earlier this week.

He spoke with members of the Liberal provincial government and urged them to enact legislation that would put defined Canadian content regulations on the cars.

There is still no timeframe for when negotiations for a new collective bargaining agreement will resume.

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deet percy says:
The company has given you the required 72 hours notice that they want to move the completed car as per the agreement. Who cares if you believe the company needs money(which they do as there are still people that want to work. I don't think they are trying to provoke the members, it's called just doing business. Put a lid on it already....spin it however you want and you are the one provoking YOUR members
8/1/2014 5:47:38 PM
fastball says:
"As per the agreement"...
I might be wrong, but I don't believe an agreement exists anymore.
8/2/2014 2:45:12 PM
tiredofit says:
You can bet your bottom dollar if they don't get the car to the vendor on time there will be a financial penalty against them. Of course the vendor won't tell the union that, especially if they save a few bucks because of a delay.

It's always sunny in Union Land...(unless of course your about to loose your house, car, family etc..)
8/1/2014 7:02:25 PM
Dudebro says:
OMG Pasqualino...how were you even able to have that meeting with the TTC? You don't run Bombardier and you should not be privy to that kind of information. BOMBARDIER provides those cars to the TTC, not your union.
I hope they come after you and shut the lines of communication down between the union and the TTC.
That union is grasping at anything and everything to prove a point and many, many people in this city see right through you. I suspect if you took a vote, you'd find the majority think you guys are nuts for pushing this.
Go to town man, see what kind of problems you cause for families and their affairs and let see how people feel about your decisions.
I think the outlook of unions in circumstances like this in this city is going to change a lot after this one.
Bombardier should get to decide whenever they darn well want to ship a car out, why does that have anything to do with the union?
Lets see how much longer the majority of workers there keep supporting that union.
8/1/2014 7:04:50 PM
orca says:
It's money once it goes out the door.
8/1/2014 8:56:05 PM
Joesmo says:
Well reading them comments it looks as though they union is loosing support in Thunder Bay.
I would be carefull or you wwill have no house, no car and have to learn to say would you like fries with that burger.
Talk to safeway employees and ask how it went for them.
8/2/2014 7:13:00 AM
trevor99 says:
Just to be clear on what this strike is about.

The company wants to change the pension plan from what it currently is, to a different one for any new employee.

So all of you workers walking the line, you are not paying bills, not buying goods and falling behind, because you are on strike for people who have not paid one nickel into your union. Just to be clear on what you are fighting for.

Cave on that issue and the company will likely settle the rest or does your union UNIFOR, have a bigger agenda involving a auto plant that they want to unionize in southern Ontario.

You folk are being led by the nose.

If you want those other workers, the ones not hired yet, to have the same pension that you have, let them strike for it. Only they can't because they don't work there do they.

Wake up already.
8/2/2014 7:36:19 AM
tbayhabs33 says:
Actually it IS the union who provides the cars to the TTC. it was also pasqualino and the union who rallied to get these contracts to Thunder Bay. I think all you low income non skilled workers need to stop posting what you dont have no clue what your talking about. Without the union memebers this plant wouldnt be in Thundr Bay and this city would be in worse poverty then it already is
8/2/2014 10:23:49 AM
enos012 says:
Actually it's because of the union members that this plnat will no longer be here in Thunder Bay.
8/2/2014 1:34:46 PM
tbay87 says:
As far as I know, there's no contract between the union and the TTC, and the union is not directly responsible for providing the cars to the TTC (if the cars are late, the penalties aren't paid by Unifor).
8/2/2014 5:00:46 PM
Smartguy83 says:
It makes a lot of sense to me to build it and push it out the door. Cash now = better than cash later. Total no brainer and an embarrassment to the union for their leader to be so dramatic. Good to see the plant can still function without the line workers for a short period of time. Possible leverage.

I love how he said they are skilled workers and shouldn't be building. I'm sure we will find out the truth when the car is accepted or rejected. My money is on accepted but I'm sure a union member will argue with me.
8/2/2014 11:07:08 AM
oscarmyerweiner says:
The union has every right to inform the customer these trains are not being built by union employees, it's up to TTC to do whatever they want with the information. Yes the union does care how the trains are being built, we do have pride in our work. Everyone that I've talked to supports this union. Most have already found employment elsewhere just to make ends meet during this strike. Some will stay at their new jobs permanently leaving Bombardier completely. We are ready to go the distance. A good job is worth fighting for, and the only way it's good is with the pension and benefits. For the pay it's already 3% lower than other similar companies. Just sharing the facts.
8/2/2014 12:55:48 PM
Westfortterri says:
Seems more likely the the TTC would prefer to have a unionized plant closer to Toronto. Maybe that is what Unifor wants as well. It would provide work for their laid off car plant workers. Unifor should do the honourable and democratic thing. Let their members have a real strike vote now that they know what the company is offering
8/2/2014 1:29:05 PM
Rodwings says:
Suck it up!
Took a 20% cut in our wages around 1998. Also some lost benefits and 0% to very minor increase in wage over the next 9 years. It saved our jobs for the next 10 years.
Not saying give up, but maybe wake-up!
8/2/2014 5:24:40 PM
orca says:
Uh oh. Somebody told the truth in the comments. That's not fair.
8/2/2014 9:05:30 PM
orca says:
Is it possible to have a good job in a bad company?
8/2/2014 9:08:48 PM
Stephen says:
This is a tough call, indeed. On the one hand, we have workers trying to get a decent pension plan-something worth fighting for.
On the other hand, we have this local branch of a company that is doing very well, but if this strike goes on too long, they will just have to take the hit and close the plant. After all, we are a long way from market.
8/3/2014 6:46:43 PM
tbayhabs33 says:
To anyone saying that Bombardier will close shop and move cities are absolutly absurd...again, you have no idea what is going on..you just believe what that Stephanie Ash says about Unifor. Bombardier is only keeping us out to cover up all the problems within the company..wether we have support of the negative 2% of tbay or not we will win this
8/4/2014 7:14:38 PM
orca says:
Stephen, DC can be a very decent pension plan, even better than DB in a lot of cases. Moreover, the DB plan that the existing employees have won't change at all. What the union leaders should concentrate on is what Bombardier should match for every contribution the employee makes to the pension.
8/4/2014 10:25:40 PM
Tannoy says:
Hate to say it but im sure management can build those things just fine.
8/5/2014 8:38:40 AM
udecide says:
Local 1075, you people better wake up, Pasqualino will be the cause of you guys losing your jobs, can you not think on your own. It will be to late when you are on unemployment and looking for a job else where. I say shut that plant down, move it to where people appreciate a good paying job.
8/5/2014 3:01:37 PM
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