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2010-02-17 at 14:20

Jobs over deficit

By Jeff Labine, tbnewswatch.com
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A campaign by Ontario’s unionized labour force wants to pressure the province to focus on job creation before tackling its multi-billion dollar deficit.

Ontario Federation of Labour President Sid Ryan spoke at the Lakehead Labour Centre press conference Wednesday about the Communities That Work campaign. Organizers of the campaign want the upcoming Ontario budget to focus on creating more jobs.

A stimulus package was a good start and was the right decision on the province’s part, Ryan said. That doesn’t mean the spending should stop. The union president added that he would like to see money continue to flow and for Ontario to resist cutting social programs to pay down its $24.7 billion deficit.

"(Service cuts) make no sense," he said. "If you stimulate the economy in the private sector to create some jobs and at the same time you start slashing (social programs) the net result on the economy and in our communities will be zero."

Human Resources and Skills Development Canada numbers show that Thunder Bay’s unemployment rate sits at 7.6 per cent, nearly two per cent lower than the provincial average. Traditionally Thunder Bay’s working force was in the mining and forestry sectors, which have been among the hardest hit by the economic downturn.

Bruce Anderson, 50, worked for 35 years in the logging and mining industry. He said he quit high school before completing Grade 12 to work in the bush.

"Before you could move from one job to another," Anderson said. "Now you have to know somebody and you have to have this amount of skills. I’m a truck driver and equipment operator so it is a little easier for me."

Anderson said experience in the workforce is often more of an asset than an educated worker without experience. Employers often look for people with hands on experience, but despite Anderson’s experience he is still having trouble finding a full-time job.

Anderson said that the government should step in to help before it is too late and all of these industries die in Northern Ontario.

Ryan also told those attending the local news conference that Ontario should have a special energy policy for the North because Energy costs in this area are a major concern for industries such as mining. Green energy producing projects, like hydroelectric, should be front and centre of that special Northern energy policy, he added.

"It’s the most environmentally friendly renewable source and it’s cheap," Ryan said. "Let’s take that cheap, plentiful supply of electricity and put in a policy to attracted industry in Northern Ontario based on lower electricity costs."

The Communities That Work campaign will continue to the Niagara region before heading toward Windsor and will be stopping at various cities with a high rate of unemployment. Click here to submit a letter to the editor.

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Steven says:
So let me get this very straight:

These union idiots want me to subsidize their members cushy wages and benefits, and even pay for more of them at a time when most people are barely getting by?

Heres a "Communities that Work" idea Mr. Ryan: All your members take a 10% pay cut right now. Nobody loses their jobs, and the rest of us who are paying for your quality of life stop getting killed by taxes.
Social services stay the same. Everyone is happy.

This sounds pretty darn reasonable to me.
Thoughts?


2/17/2010 2:31:38 PM
arjay says:
steven
why is it that you pick on the average working joe, who pays taxes and keeps this country's economy growing? our government reps, pull in far more than the best paid workers and the ceo's of big corporations rake in more than a couple of hundred average workers in a year. methinks you set your sites a little low on this one. could it be you can't see the trees for the forest?
ARJAY
2/17/2010 3:42:57 PM
gone for good says:
Until the provincial govt. actually addresses this problem. Nothing will ever change. Mcguinty will never allow a regional price policy for us up here. If we get a better rate on hydro. Toronto and S. Ont. will scream bloody murder. And we don't have enough people here to make a difference at election time. Status Quo, nothing will change. And big industry can't afford our energy rates.
2/17/2010 4:21:06 PM
The Beaver.... says:
Ok Mr.Ryan meant to say Union Jobs I am sure.
Yes and with that we go out and really kill the
average unemployed I said it before...and i say it again..City like Province..the unemployed can not afford more employees.
2/17/2010 5:20:40 PM
northervoice says:
Steven has it right but should have included politicians in the 10% wage cut for non-perfomance on the job.
2/17/2010 6:42:39 PM
eddylives says:
Steven

So we should all try to raise our family's on minimum wage....
Get a grip on reality buddy.
Without protection we are at the mercy of the employers greed and desire to fill their own pockets.......
2/17/2010 8:38:53 PM
Steven says:
Arjay, I am not picking on the average working joe.
FIrst let me say I don't disagree: all of those CEO's need wage cuts as well, and politicians, and management!

But there are so few of them vs. the giant public service unionized, that even if you cut their wages by 25%, it would be tiny vs. cutting the public service wages by even 5%.

The Beaver is right: THe unemployed can not afford more employees, and can't afford the ones we have right now.

To look at it another way, the public service is killing the average working joe!
They are the elite! They earn more than the average worker in the province, yet those people earning less, and even the unemployed have no choice but to pay them. We have no recourse other than to try and vote someone in to do something about it.

2/17/2010 8:45:01 PM
The Beaver.... says:
eddielives..what is it you don't understand...the Employer is not greedy..the employer is broke and hungry and in deep trouble..get it..in this case he is held hostage bei the Unionized Elite and way over paid Civil Servants.
2/17/2010 9:34:00 PM
musicferret says:
Eddy,

You love to put words in peoples' mouths and jump to conclusions. Don't speak for me.

I never said we should raise our family's on minimum wage. I'm simply asking for responsibility from unions that suck at the Taxpayers' teat during times of fiscal difficulty.
Thats it.

As for needing protection from employers, as far as i've seen in public service unions, we actually need protection from the unions and their strikes, their slow work practices, and their taking every last solitary cent left in this province.

I agree with the Beaver. The employer is not greedy, but broke and in deep trouble, and being held hostage. And that employer is the taxpayer, and we are sick of these unions.

So quit putting words in my mouth, and come up with something intelligent to say other than tired old 1920's union speak about needing protection from the big bad government employer.

Last time I checked, if you worked for the government you had massage covered. When did massage become part of workers' rights?
2/18/2010 2:00:08 AM
thebard says:
Lets face it without public sector jobs Thunder Bay would look like "Beardmore with a nice view" If you pull the public sector jobs, the private sector could support a population of perhaps 20,000 people.

People live here because they have a job providing public services to the people who are here to provide public services.


2/18/2010 9:55:19 AM
NorthernGuy says:
There are some very bizarre comments in this section.

1) Public Administration (Public Sector) jobs are the number one employeer in Northern Ontario. Those jobs need to be protected. Government has a direct impact on those jobs, much more so then private jobs like Mining and Forestry.

2) Mining is looking good again. Lac just reopened, and Attikokan is on the verge of setting up something big.

3) Please look at the unemployment numbers when comparing us to Toronto. There are MORE people working here. Toronto has a HIGHER unemployment rate then we do. Thunder Bay is not as bad of place to live as some of you want to make it look like.

4) Education is key in today's economy. The person taking shots at those with degrees is VERY out of touch with the new economy.

My father worked in Forestry. I watched him stress about his job. There is NO way he wants to watch me stress the way he did. Education is vital nowadays.
2/18/2010 1:17:39 PM
Steven says:
Beardmore with a nice view? I think it would be quite a lot better than that.

To quote thebard:
"People live here because they have a job providing public services to the people who are here to provide public services. "

This is a partial truth. There are alot of public service jobs in thunder bay; BUT most of them are actually useful, providing services to a huge region that thunder bay is the hub of. Not just to the other public servants.

The problem is still the municipal employees. They only provide service for those of us in the city (service is a strong word for what we get for our tax dollars), and they charge us big for it. Keeping them around just for the sake of employing them does nothing but raise taxes and wreck the community by preventing us from doing something worthwhile with the money.
If we reduced the Thunder Bay municipal employees by 20%, and then cut the salaries of the others by 10% to match up with the cost of living in thunder bay which is low, Thunder Bay would be a much better off city, even if most of those people who's jobs were cut left the city.
2/19/2010 11:48:22 AM
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