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2014-05-02 at 10:27

NDP's Horwath says she's lost faith in Liberal government

Ontario NDP leader Andrea Horwath is pictured in the Ontario Legislature on April 8, 2014. THE CANADIAN PRESS
Ontario NDP leader Andrea Horwath is pictured in the Ontario Legislature on April 8, 2014. THE CANADIAN PRESS
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The Canadian Press

TORONTO - Ontario NDP Leader Andrea Horwath says she has lost confidence in Premier Kathleen Wynne and the province's minority Liberal government, setting the stage for a June election.

Horwath says the Liberals haven't kept the promises they made to the NDP in last year's budget, so she can't trust them to keep the 70 new promises made in Thursday's budget.

She calls the budget a "mad dash" to escape scandals surrounding the cancellation of gas plants and the Ornge air ambulance service by promising voters "the stars and the moon."

The Progressive Conservatives vowed to vote against the budget even before they saw it, and Horwath says the NDP will join them to defeat the fiscal plan on a confidence vote.

However, Wynne could decide not to wait for the budget votes _ there will actually be two _ and could ask the Lieutenant Governor to dissolve the legislature and call an election.

Several large labour groups, including the Unifor union and the Ontario Federation of Labour, urged the NDP to pass the budget and avoid an election, but public sector unions complained the fiscal plan puts jobs at risk.

The New Democrats propped up the Liberals in the last two budgets, but negotiated major changes in each including a tax on incomes over $500,000 and a 15 per cent average cut in auto insurance premiums.

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yqtyqt says:
"Ontario NDP Leader Andrea Horwath says she has lost confidence in Premier Kathleen Wynne and the province's minority Liberal government".

Don't know what took her so long to realize what most Ontarians hve know for years. The Liberal legacy of lies and deceit seems to be focal point for the next election. Close behind the lack of trust issue is the continuous scandals (I don't have to repeat them all) that have plagued this government.

The big question is whether the liberals can ever be trusted again.
5/2/2014 10:38:25 AM
fan says:
"The Liberal legacy of lies and deceit..." Really, yqtyqt? Really? Because Conservatives do not lie nor deceive; in fact, Conservatives wrote the Lie Deceit Instruction manual.
That the expectation now is politicians of all parties lie and cheat is a sad commentary on justice and integrity.
5/2/2014 10:56:20 AM
tbay87 says:
Don't worry, "losing confidence" is just politically speak for "we're ready for an election". Most of the time, when a party doesn't want to trigger an election they ask for a few concessions and support the budget; when they do, no concessions will please them.

And, no, the Liberals can't be trusted, but neither can any other political party (Liberals probably look worse from being in office so long, but any party in power eventually starts to have its own scandals or legal but highly questionable spending).
5/2/2014 11:09:40 AM
mikethunderbay says:
Typical NDP, they don't comment yesterday even though that is the norm. They wait until the day after to create a story for themselves. Clearly based on Horwaths comments she believes the liberals didn't follow through on their promises from the last budget. Now if she believes this is true and that is the reason for voting against this budget she would have known this weeks if not months ago but she continued to say she would check with the people of Ontario on what they thought of the budget once it was delivered. Clearly she has been lying every time she said this. Anyone who believes voting for the ndp is good for northern ontario just look federally and the complete lack of effective representation they 2...now 1 federal reps have delivered. A vote for the NDP is essentially a vote for the conservatives and tbay will go back to what it was like in the 90's and early 2000's. I hope the people of tbay look at the billions invested by the liberals and vote for that to continue
5/2/2014 11:12:33 AM
yqtyqt says:
`A vote for the NDP is essentially a vote for the conservatives`.

The only reason the Liberals stayed in power is because the NDP propped them up for so long with understanding that they deal with several requests that the leader put forward. She mentioned them both today since the liberals haven't dealt with either of them. Typical liberal deal, they promise and then they break the promise.

Its pretty understandable that the NDP would say that enough is enough. They had plenty of reasons to defeat the government before. It just took them longer than most to come to the conclusion that the liberals cant be trusted.
5/2/2014 1:15:01 PM
realist says:
And we are going to waste how many millions to end up with the same result after an election?

There's no way in hell either Tim Hudak or Andrea Horvath are going to get elected, so why are we wasting this money?

The opposition parties rightly chastise the Liberals for all their wanton waste, then they turn around and force and election when they already know the outcome.
5/2/2014 11:30:09 AM
ranma says:
Well it's not going to matter what we vote up here, Toronto is going to decide the future of this province. Once again we will get the shaft, and our voice will not be heard.

All I can say, it's let's hope Hudak and his "big business comes first" platform does not win. If it does, TFW's will be replacing everyone!

For those of you who don't know..his "right to work" platform would have meant that employers have the right to decide who works, and who gets fired. People would lose all the protections they currently have. He may have "abandoned" it..but whose to say he won't bring it back.
5/2/2014 11:52:49 AM
SunshinePrincess says:
I will be voting Liberal because of the Conservative Plan to merge ODSP (Ontario Disability Support Program) into the Welfare program. Welfare only makes $606 per month and those who are disabled make $1100. Hudak's Conservatives will punish the disabled by stealing $494 dollars out of the pockets of every single disabled man and women, and forcing the mentally disabled and physically disabled to work for slave labor wages or risk being thrown to the curb. He is also going to smash OHIP to pieces, which will result in numerous medically ill elderly people, physically disabled and mentally disabled man and woman to pay for medicines over $100 per bottle, using that $606. Hudak is also planning on getting rid of the Welfare system where you even get money, and instead living off a bank card that only works at bill payment offices and grocery stores, [continued on part 2 of my letter]
5/2/2014 11:55:08 AM
TheGodFather says:
How many times do the Liberals have to wrong you before you will wake up?

Do you like someone lying to you? Do you enjoy paying the HST? Do you enjoy having your energy bill increase monthly? Do you enjoy having the coal plant sit idle nearby after they spent 100 millions of dollars. Should I go on? Or do you get it now??
5/2/2014 4:35:02 PM
SunshinePrincess says:
[Part 2 of my letter -->] leaving these people who have just been integrated into the Welfare System from the ODSP system from ever being able to afford medicine ever again. I am amazed the people of Ontario would vote for a Party that would do this to them. There is always at least 1 person who is very ill, very old, mentally or physically disabled that will not be able to get help any more because the Conservatives plan to erase 75% funding for any and all mental health facilities. Drug addictions and suicide rates will be going through the roof under a Conservative Government. I cannot allow this to happen. I will be voting Liberal.
5/2/2014 11:55:52 AM
mystified says:
"Hudak is also planning on getting rid of the Welfare system where you even get money, and instead living off a bank card that only works at bill payment offices and grocery stores,"

That's the way it should be. There are to many people USING the system instead of getting out of bed and going to work. Drug testing should be mandatory for ODSP and welfare recipients. The working poor have to abide by the rules.
5/2/2014 12:26:07 PM
Decide says:
Although I agree with your post, I would like to add that if you want welfare recipients to be tested for drugs, the same has to apply for all civil service employees, from the Premier on down. If you get paid by the government, on any level, you are a welfare recipient so to speak.
5/2/2014 2:32:01 PM
mystified says:
I totally agree with that. It will keep everyone above board. My employer can call me in for a random drug screening when ever they feel like it and I'm ok with that.
If they were to adopt the bank card and drug screening there would be a lot of people looking for work.
5/2/2014 7:53:38 PM
Jack Frost says:
I and most if not all Canadian's have lost all faith and trust in all the political parties, whether it be federal, provincial, or
municipal, they are all the same self-serving bunch of shameless tricksters and greedy clowns !!

All of these self-serving and untrustworthy parties have genuinely earned the complete responsibility for the terrible mess that we are all now in...
5/2/2014 12:33:12 PM
OdieCleghorn says:
Well said. Unfortunately most of the population is not smart enough to realize this.
5/2/2014 3:05:19 PM
dank says:
If the P.C's get in, you have no one to blame but the lying liberals.
5/2/2014 12:51:17 PM
DougMyers says:
Well I will say I feel I cannot trust the liberals, at least from recent history. I would be much more trusting had Kathleen made an effort to deal with Mcguinty's theft of our tax dollars. i just have not seen her distance herself from what her predecessor did.

That being said, Andrea, as a leader, is a joke. She could lead kids to a candy store.

Tim? He cannot be trusted, period. What he is calling for will diminish everything lower and middle class workers had work so hard to have. He would all but gut unions and then erode all that they have. These savings would be handed to the southern Ontario big wigs in the form of corporate tax breaks and loop holes.

What is one to do? I wish Kathleen would do something to show us she can be trusted.
5/2/2014 12:59:24 PM
pc says:
And how is the Liberal system working for those on disability, or welfare?
I am disabled and cannot get any help from the gov.
I for one will be voting for Mr. Hudak as he is the only one with a plan to get Ontario out of the red so that more people can get disability help when it is needed.
The Libs have spent us into the poor house and now it is up to someone who can and will make the tough calls to get us back into a have province.
It would no longer be the big unions running the province like it is now and would be with the NDP.
Yes the Conservatives will make the tough calls and when Ontario is back on its feet there will be an election and they will be vilified again and out of power. Then the NDP and Libs can spend us back to the brink again.
Never ending cycle of life in Ontario.
5/2/2014 1:03:48 PM
tiredofit says:
PC you seem to have a short memory. It was the Harris government that greatly reduced the payments, support etc for the disabled and the developmentally challenged. They were the ones who felt they were better served living in the community, how well did that work out? vast marjority of the homeless are mentally disabled. They reduced welfare to the point were people (those that do/did require it could no longer survive).

Yeah, the PC's will do wonders for you. Hope it's sunny in your world, because it sure isn't here!

By the way, when the PCs (Harris) Ontario had very little debt... Now with that all said, the current Liberals are no better as I mentioned in another post on this topic...
5/2/2014 8:19:29 PM
Norshor says:
Sunshine princess -the disabled and mentally ill people in this province should be taken care of and I agree that welfare is a different animal. However, love the idea of people on welfare only having funds to pay for housing and food. If you want the extras get a job and pay for it yourself. While Hudak is at it, I hope he makes manditry drug testing for anyone living off welfare. If you test positive you're cut off.
5/2/2014 1:10:15 PM
SunshinePrincess says:
I wholeheartedly agree about those on Welfare, but the Disabled can't help themselves and no matter what kind of tax breaks the Conservatives give them, no businesses will hire potentially dangerous mentally disabled men or women into their workplace. The welfare system needs to be changed, but the Disability Program is for those who just can't be in the workforce for various reasons. I do agree about the testings for Disability too, though. I know some people who have abused the Disability system, but you can't just take away something made for everyone just because a couple hundred or a couple thousand out of the 600,000 + who need it abuse it.
5/2/2014 1:43:37 PM
reese says:
It does not make much difference just avoid the left wing radicals no matter what there name is
Today in America there are 108 million on welfare and 101 million individual taxpayers
What ever calculator you use it does not work
Be careful what you wish for
5/2/2014 1:44:24 PM
yqtyqt says:
Ive heard that statistics on tax paying citizens vs welfare collecting folks. The mathematics in the equations just won't support a society where it is easier to stay at home waiting for govt assistance than it is to find a job.

Ontario is heading in that very same direction. The Libs primary claim to fame is making gov't handouts easier while they're been asleep at the wheel while jobs have slipped out of the province.

As for your statement about left wing radicals, we now have two left wing parties fighting over union support and one right wing party wanting to boost the economy. There is no middle of the road party anymore.

The Libs abandoned any notion that they were middle of the road when they cozied up to the large private and public sector unions aka the Working families coalition.

Right now in todays province of Ontario, we have the unions running the government business and catering to their own unions such as the cops, teachers, firefighters etc.

Its time for a change

5/2/2014 3:35:17 PM
dank says:
latest Liberal scam is known as the Ontario College of Trades- all trades in Ontario hit with another useless tax. How is this leading young people to a career in trades and how is this creating employment- time for these clowns to go!!!
5/2/2014 1:57:14 PM
TBDR says:
It must be city council's fault. I blame the mayor... something something Administration...
5/2/2014 2:05:50 PM
tiredofit says:
Sadly, we don't have any party worthy of being elected. Con's will devastate what little we have left in Government services, they love to slash and burn while lining the pockets of their friends.

The NDP would bankrupt us even further with their policies.

The Liberals, well... that speaks for itself. Their nothing more than Conservatives in sheep's clothing these days, they are not your fathers Liberals anymore, this current party is so far from the original Liberal mantra is disgusting.

Sadly, everyone enters politics with good intentions, however they end up working for themselves or be forced into following the parties demands and not represent the people that once voted them in, it's really sad. Professional Politicians need to go.

So we are stuck in a province which keeps falling further and further behind. What's the answer? Sadly, I don't think anyone really knows anymore.

Scrap it all, and start fresh? Join Manitoba? Join the US? Really, what is the answer?
5/2/2014 2:27:29 PM
dockboy says:
What a pointless election this will be. Horwath is full of hot air, and Hudak is spineless.
5/2/2014 3:00:55 PM
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