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2012-10-18 at 15:22

Scherban fired

By Leith Dunick, tbnewswatch.com
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Lakehead University athletic director Tom Warden is remaining tight-lipped about the internal issues that led to Thursday’s firing of veteran hockey coach Joel Scherban.

Warden said the issues came to a head this week and left the OUA team with no choice but to release Scherban from his coaching contract, which the school had extended just last spring.

“We felt that the best direction at this time was to relieve Joel of his responsibilities. Like I said, it was a very difficult decision.”

Pressed for more details, Warden balked.

“That’s a valid question, and my response, you’re probably not going to like. But it’s an internal issue and it’s an issue I’m not prepared to discuss at this time. It’s something that is private and stays within Thunderwolves hockey,” he said.

Asked if the players walked out of practice on Tuesday, as sources have told tbnewswatch.com, Warden would not comment. The team cancelled practice on Wednesday.

“As I said, these are internal issues. I think at this point, and with this decision moving forward, we will be in a position to achieve our goals. As far as that issue goes, I’d like to keep that internal.”

Taking over the Thunderwolves reins on an interim basis is assistant coach Mike Busniuk, a former NHLer and 16-year assistant coach in the American Hockey League, mostly with Binghampton. Busniuk, a recent inductee into the Northwestern Ontario Sports Hall of Fame, was not immediately available to comment as he oversaw his first practice as the Wolves new coach.

Scherban, who was in his fourth season with Lakehead, a team he’d guided to an 81-49 record, including three wins in four games to start the 2012-13 season, released a statement that was handed to media by team officials.

“I am both surprised and disappointed that I will not be continuing in my role as head coach,” Scherban wrote, days after it appeared his team quit on him in a brutal 6-3 loss to York last weekend at Fort William Gardens.

“I have worked tirelessly over the past three-and-a-half years to help the players achieve their individual and team goals, both in the classroom and on the ice.”

Brought in to take the reins after Don McKee was let go following the 2008-09 season, Scherban promptly led Lakehead into nationals on home ice, earning a spot despite having an automatic berth as hosts.

But his playoff success ended there. They were swept in the opening round in 2011 and last winter, after winning the second-round opener on the road against Windsor, dropped two straight for a second consecutive early exit.

Warden said they did try to find a solution that made everyone happy.

“I would like you to know that we worked tirelessly to look at ways of not being in this situation. A lot of people offered their help and their expertise. We are here only because this was the only solution that we felt was going to move us forward,” Warden said, adding nonetheless it was a unanimous decision by the privately owned and operated team’s board of directors and Lakehead officials.

“Please understand this was not something that was done lightly or without research or without working very hard to find a solution.”

Busniuk takes the team on the road to Kitchener-Waterloo this weekend, where the Wolves will take on both Waterloo and Laurier, before heading home next weekend to take on arch-rival Western.

Warden said how long Busniuk, a teacher at Dennis Franklin Cromarty High School, remains in the position will be decided at a later date, and said there are no immediate plans to seek out a permanent replacement for Scherban, the Wolves all-time point leader and former captain.

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Booker T says:
About Time
10/18/2012 3:31:34 PM
sports guy says:
Too bad there is no disagree button. There are a lot of people that don't agree with your comment. You are probably someone who is on the team, trying to justify what you and the team did to Joel. Or someone who obviously doesn't follow this team. I bet you go on over and over to click that button haha!
10/20/2012 4:27:50 AM
shelf says:
Wow, didn't see this coming! He should still be coach!
10/20/2012 11:29:27 AM
Sinjo says:
Sounds like they undercut him. Team prolly told to mail it in my management so that they would have a reason to fire him. Glutless i say.
10/18/2012 3:55:20 PM
mrbusinessman says:
Sorry to say this but it's about time. Joel just doesn't have the experience to handle a team at this level. Mike Busniuk has far more experience and is a much better fit for this job.
Best wishes to Joel no hard feelings!!!
10/18/2012 3:56:53 PM
lonewolf9 says:
Team has underachieved this year and came out really flat and played awful last Saturday night. Bit I guess first place in the division and number 10 in the country doesn't cut it. This board would probably hire Scotty Bowman and eventually fire him too.
10/18/2012 4:26:15 PM
sticky says:
Just a bunch of speculation.

Fact is the players all walked out on the coach. Bunch of gutless, spoiled punks if you ask me.

They better win now.
10/18/2012 4:53:21 PM
wft2012 says:
ok bro.. lets get real these boy are not gutless, they come to thunder bay to play hockey with the best fans in the CIS and right now there are some people being less than ideal! I would love for you to go up to any of the guys and tell them that they are gutless. Point is is that joel shouldnt be coaching a team at this level. The team needs someone who will be hard on them but that they will respect and respect them back! and they didnt have that with joel! He has to realize that these guys go out there and if they dont play perfect they get flack for it! Give the boys some credit and start acting like the best fans in the CIS that guys say we are!
10/18/2012 8:11:29 PM
JDRH says:
For someone who starts his post off with "Just a bunch of speculation" you sure are speculating as to why he got fired.

Even if you were correct, most of these young men have played under some high quality coaches in their lives, if they felt they weren't receiving the quality of coaching they deserved, then why wouldn't they want a change?

This of course is assuming you're correct, which you almost certainly aren't.
10/19/2012 8:38:02 AM
hockeyfan says:
STICKY! TOTALLY DISAGREE ... and I'm sure most of Thunder Bay would agree with me ..

the fact is the Players didn't want to waste another season .. They DIDN'T walk out. They want to WIN, and win now! ...

GO WOLVES GO!! ...
10/18/2012 5:27:44 PM
sky high says:
They fired him because the goalie they had in net last saturday was totally incompetent. I was sitting behind the LU's net in the first period and I could have stopped 4 of the 5 goals he let in from there. And the Thunderwolves are quite well know for partying on Friday nights so maybe a few of them should be shown the door as well. Shame that Scherban had to take the fall for a few of them who are only playing for the free air travel and a few laughs
10/18/2012 5:34:55 PM
lakeheadu says:
Yeah, it was all Bosch's fault. Smart! It was not at all the fact that the team came out absolutely flat in front of him, turning the puck over in the defensive zone to cause THREE of those goals. There was a turnover by Wilkins, a turnover by someone else and a puck that bounced off the glass right into the high slot, all of which were buried by the York players. Not the easiest task to save such high quality scoring chances.
10/18/2012 7:03:52 PM
sky high says:
Do you watch hockey? Turnovers are part of the game and that goalie played as if his mind was somewhere else. True, the team did play flat but that is going to happen sometimes as well. Name me one sports team that played didn't have an off-period or inning or quarter or whatever. Goalie's fault, obviously. And as per your comment below-you insinuate he got fired for his inexperience. Well he was no more experienced when they hired him, oui? You'd better stay in school and quit trolling news sites
10/18/2012 8:21:22 PM
lakeheadu says:
Umm no, I didnt say he got fired due to inexperience. I said the blame should be placed on those that hired him, as expecting things to end well when you hire someone with no experience is foolish.

The firing had nothing to do with Saturday's result. If the players did not walk out on practice or whatever they did, Scherban is still the coach. The higher up people would have gladly rode it out with him as coach for years.

If you really believe he got fired because of the goalie, that's fine. Your opinion. We'll disagree
10/18/2012 9:41:30 PM
sky high says:
And can you imagine NHL players walking out on their coach, say the Rangers walking out on Tortorella because he got upset that they played poorly? These Thunderwolves are twenty year old babies that can't take criticism. And management PANDERED to the spoiled brats. There'll be no playoffs for the Thunderwolves this year, not with this assortment of babies.
10/18/2012 11:28:41 PM
The Wolf says:
No coach at any level of hockey in any country has gotten or will be fired over the play of one of his players in one period of a game.

I would tell you to give your a head a shake but you may kill your last brain cell.
10/18/2012 9:59:50 PM
sky high says:
You're both wrong---they were 3 and 0 and the goalie played like crap, and Scherban went nuts and the suckhole players walked out. If the players had played up to their capabilities, Scherban is still coach. And Wolf...that wasn't even funny when I first heard it 20 years ago. Originality has never been a strong trait of yours, has it. That's not a question
10/18/2012 11:21:17 PM
The Wolf says:
If I am wrong please point me in the direction of any head coach that was fired over a one period poor performance of any player on their team.
10/19/2012 1:37:29 AM
The Wolf says:
You claim the team walked out on Joel because of his actions between the 1st and 2nd period yet the team came out and out scored the other team 2-1??? Hardly sounds like a team that gave up on the coach. Or are you saying they walked out on him before the game after getting off to an 3-0 start???

I am confused, please tell me the exact moment they walked out on him.

Please reply, I find a lot of humor in your lack of common sense replies.
10/19/2012 1:44:40 AM
wft2012 says:
Come on now. we need to stop being so hard on bosch.. the only reason half of those goals were let in was because of the lack of defence! There was one line that was there for him and that tried their best not to let anything by them! Point is is yes it is a LITTLE bit of bosch's fault but not completely.. if you wanna blame him then blame his forwards who didnt go up and answer every goal! this is a TEAM sport and no ONE player should EVER be blamed for a loss. They had a rough game and they will come back!
10/18/2012 8:16:16 PM
keiths31 says:
Nice for Mike. Coached me when I was a kid. Great guy. I am sure Joel did the best job he could, but he was pretty young when he took the job. And young in this case = inexperienced.
10/18/2012 5:35:03 PM
BlueJay12 says:
Let's face it, these players are done with the OHL, here to party, have some fun and sort of get an education! Who cares.
10/18/2012 5:47:55 PM
SF2012 says:
If they're here to party why did last year's team have a record number of Academic All Canadians. Watch their meet the wolves videos and see how many of the guys want to do something with their university degree after graduating or how many want to go on to play hockey oversees before you open your mouth next time.
10/18/2012 8:03:44 PM
BlueJay12 says:
Actually, I am friends with a lot of them...your in university to go to school, continue your hockey career(or whats left of it), party and have some fun. Who cares who the coach is, its not going to change their mentality at this stage.
10/18/2012 8:24:25 PM
wft2012 says:
honestly i find this highly doubtful. I am friends with a decent ammount of these guys and i see them up on the 3rd hammering out school work and studying far more than seeing them out drinking. lets realize that even past thunderwolves are now in med school and many of them were GA's so id think about it next time before you say something that is easily proved wrong
10/18/2012 9:06:20 PM
BlueJay12 says:
Find what doubtful? That's what you do in university...study, party, practice repeat? Or did you sit in your dorm?
10/18/2012 9:45:47 PM
old vienna says:
What happened to bryan wyatts article in sports with bryan where bryan says us hockey fans calling for joels firing don't know what were talking about. Bryan said they should keep scherban as coach. How come u took it down bryan looks like you were wrong as usual.
10/18/2012 6:52:03 PM
lakeheadu says:
It's certainly easy to tell which of you have actually followed this team closely over the years and which of you have no clue!

You're crazy if you think the team wanted to let him go. The players gave the board no choice, if their reported actions are true.

The blame should go further back, to whoever decided that this hiring was a wise idea in the first place. It's not Scherban's fault that he could not keep control of the room. What do you expect when you hire someone with absolutely no coaching experience?
10/18/2012 6:57:56 PM
pb_goodness says:
Ooops Busniuk doesnt work at Westgate!
10/18/2012 7:20:49 PM
steech says:
Mike Busniuk woeks at dfc highschool, not westgate
10/18/2012 7:20:51 PM
Northshore77 says:
Another case of "Lets fire the coach because the players stink".
10/18/2012 7:52:11 PM
wft2012 says:
If you ask any of the guys in town why they chose lakehead alot of them say because that Thunder Bay has the best fans in the CIS. Personally I vote we stop being so hard on the guys unless everyone who is complaining wants to go out on the ice and prove that they can play better than them.
10/18/2012 8:18:50 PM
hockeyfan says:
ummm Northshore77... what team have been watching? .... This team has alot of talent what they didn't have was a leader that could challenge them and the experience level to take them to a National Championship. Just because someone is a Good guy and was Great Hockey Player for LU doesn't mean they would make a Great Coach.

It was obvious that these boys wanted more for themselves as a team and for the 3000 some fans that support them week after week.
10/18/2012 8:31:21 PM
lakeheadu says:
Exactly. This team is as talented as any that they have had. In terms of building the team, Scherban did a very good job. There's a lot of talent there.

However, he wasnt ready for the head coaching position that they put him in. I have no doubt that he gave it everything he had. I dont put the blame on him.

Like you said, great guy and great player. He was not put in an ideal position to find out if he could be a great coach. If he had started off as an assitant somewhere and joined the team as head coach a few years down the line, he very well may have been a great coach as well.
10/18/2012 9:49:55 PM
jay-ded says:
@sky high: I am guessing that you do not regularly attend the games, as you would have realized that Bosch's Saturday performance was not typical of his usual play. I am also guessing that you would have recognized the massive defensive failure by his team mates.
Having attended 98% of LU's home games since their inaugural season, having listened to the majority of their away games, and having had the opportunity to see away games, I can honestly say that this team has suffered under Scherban's direction. Scherban was a great player (especially when paired with Richards) but he is not a Head Coach (at least, not at this point). I have always wondered if promoting him to HC was merely a marketing ploy to bring back the initial glory days, when the city celebritized them. Yes, these guys are university students, but this city rallies behind them and as such, they should appreciate the support. Other CIS teams are desperate for fans. Hopefully a new coach will revitalize this team.
10/18/2012 10:38:47 PM
dynamiter says:
Sorry to see him go. But as I had written before, I felt that this team was long on talent and short on teamwork, dedication and totally lacked discipline. I do not buy the lack of experience. Joel played 5 years at London and 5 more at LU and that should have provided him with enough time to assimilate some good coaching techniques. In hockey there have been many good player coaches so I dont think that experience was an issue. Maybe more of an issue was coaching skills. I was happy to see the old guard replaced with new people like Busniuk and Adduono - Nicholas/Biss/etc were not getting it done. But from the lack of a good PP and PK, it appears that Joel was not able to get this stuff practiced properly. But when top level players continue to take stupid penalties and then get thrown back on the ice immediately after, then you know that the coach has lost the room.

What I dont like is when a new assistant coach comes in and get the job. I hope they bring in somebody else.
10/19/2012 12:23:49 AM
lonewolf9 says:
If this was pro or major junior hockey, the general manager could have traded a few of the "bad apple" or "cancer" players in the dressing room. But at this level, the Wolves are pretty much stuck with this roster. You could cut a few players, but you can't find any replacements anyways, so in this case the inmates got their way.
10/19/2012 1:22:44 AM
yellowsnow says:
I say sky high should put his money where his mouth is an suit up one practice. See how good he is. Apparently he is a higher level goalie than what LU has. Let some of these guys take some shots on him. I would even pay for the hour of ice to watch.

Good luck to Mike and the rest of the Wolves this year. Lots of hockey left!
10/19/2012 7:10:03 AM
nvjgu says:
So what it's just game that means nothing.
10/19/2012 7:20:58 AM
bttnk says:
I'm really disappointed that a 10th ranked, first place team has fired a coach. These players aren't playing like CIS athletes game in and game out. When I see several of the players out at the bar the night before a game and then they come out flat, who is that on? The Coach? or the Players who put themselves before the team? I think Lakehead should strongly consider relieving Tom Warden of his duties. The guys has done a poor job, plain and simple.
10/19/2012 9:31:49 AM
outsider9 says:
Players Quit/Didn't Quit who knows? Fact is Scherban should have never been given the job to begin, and certainly didn't deserve an extension last year. Joel got out coached game after game. I will say however that it's not Joel's fault.....Warden put him in a position to fail, how safe should Warden be?
10/19/2012 9:35:57 AM
Chief says:
And all the hockey experts who cant even skate start criticizing.....
10/19/2012 11:10:10 AM
sticky says:
There seems to be a lot of people offering their own opinions that they are trying to serve as facts.

I'm not saying that I know the whole story or anything, but I do know that the players walked out on Joel, and basically gave the team and management no other option, other than releasing Scherban. Something they did not want to do.

It seems strange though, that the leadership on the team (Sergerie, Gamache, Sagert, Wilkins) are all guys who by all accounts got along well with Joel. You would think these guys would have stuck up for him, but apparently not.

One thing I will say is that this team has an incredible amount of talent, maybe one of the more talented rosters the Wolves have ever had.

But now they better win. The players wanted this. Now they've made their bed and they have to lie in it.

But at the end of the day, these players are still going to focus more on drinking and partying. I hope Im wrong, but the upcoming Western series might get pretty ugly.
10/19/2012 11:24:44 AM
Johnny Utah says:
Too bad for all involved. It's never an easy situation when a coach is let go. But I think this was the best decision for the LU hockey program at this point. One has to question with all of the concerns that were raised over the past few seasons, why was a change not made at the end of last season? I think Lakehead University athletic director Tom Warden and the Board of Directors need to look in the mirror. Good luck to the Wolves!!
10/19/2012 11:39:54 AM
hockeyfan says:
seriously "sticky" ?? Who are you?
Joel Scherban?

In previous posts outside this article you were praising those same 4 boys .. now your having a change of heart? ... why you coming down so hard on the players?
It was a decision made by the Thunderwolves orginization ....
10/19/2012 1:07:34 PM
Tonto says:
Hahaha. Too funny. Just like the NHL. We suck and can't win, let's blame the coach and fire him. Guess what, it doesn't matter who your coach is. You'll still suck and lose.
10/19/2012 1:16:49 PM
octane says:
Juet to let everyone know
Every decision has more to it then
We can See
Speculation will get us nowhere

Sports teams have many internal issues
Us, the public are not allowed inside this world
Continuing to support this team is whats needed
Kicking the coach when is down wont help
Support the Thunderwolves!!!
10/19/2012 3:33:34 PM
sticky says:
Ha, no hockeyfan, I can assure you that im not Joel Scherban.

What I am though, is a fan who has watched this team from day #1 and I do have some sources.

If you think this was what the organization wanted, you are sorely mistaken.

The guys walked out on him, plain and simple.

I praised the leadership of the four guys (who wear letters) because I respect their effort on the ice. My point was that, if something was brewing in the locker room, they must have been a part of it.

I dont know how things will go from here, but I will support the team, and do hope they go far. Just don't like how it was done. It leaves a bad taste in my mouth.
10/19/2012 5:43:49 PM
Tunderwolf says:
If you claim to be such a long time fan, and close to the organization, you obviously know that 'The Sherbanator' orchestrated the demise of 2 head coaches this exact same way. Oui ou Non?
Don't feel bad. Karma is a B.
go Tunderwolfs!!
10/19/2012 10:49:03 PM
Northshore77 says:
I am looking forward to see what kind of record this team can finish with.
10/19/2012 7:47:02 PM
rbosch says:
Skyhigh, quite bluntly put, you are an idiot. You either did not see the first period of the Saturday game, or you indeed were skyhigh. The 3 goals that caused the trouble were not the goalie's fault solely. Yes, he let the goals in, but on goal one he made 3 consecutive saves while his defence stood around and the final shot deflected off his pads from behind the net; goal 2 was caused by a rebound that went directly to 2 Lions players that were left totally uncovered by, let's hear it, the DEFENCE! Goal 3 was caused by one of his forwards losing control of the puck from behind the net and it went out front to the Lions player who was left uncovered by the DEFENSE again. Most players were standing around like lost kids in the first 5 minutes and totally left the goalie at the mercy of the other team. How you can place the blame on the goalie is unbelievable! Look at the section of highlites which have been repeatedly shown of that first 5 minutes and then try to blame Bosch.
10/19/2012 9:07:23 PM
spooner19 says:
Who cares? Only in Thunder Bay people actually watch this hockey. Any other city that has a team playing in Canadian University hockey does not draw more than a hundred fans and 90% of those are drunk students who had nothing better to do that night. These players are going no place as far as hockey and are basically here to attend school and party. I have to agree what a bunch of babies! to walk out on your coach because there upset with him. Grow Up!! They will not do any better regardless of who coaches them. Bottom line cry babies will always be losers.
10/20/2012 1:57:05 AM
Tbay fan says:
I am disgusted by the behaviour of these players and the consequences of their actions. This generation of players feels they have some sense of entitlement and don't respect their coach who gave them the privilege to play for this team. Joel is highly respected by former players, previous team members as well as the public. He's been a huge part in the success of the Thunderwolves both as a player and a coach. Joel did not deserve this type of humiliation especially since all he has done is continue the success of the program. Players cornering the committee into having no choice but to fire a coach who is leading the thunderwolves to their goals was not a smart move. What a bunch of babies. We have all played for coaches we didn't always like, or agree with but in the end they made us better athletes and people. Learn respect and grow up. Can't wait to see you boys around town. Good luck avoiding the wrath of your tantrum.
10/20/2012 2:42:46 PM
DougMyers says:
Joel

Thank you for all you have done and given to the team. From your on ice performance and leadership to stepping up to the plate to move behind the bench.

Your efforts and leadership will not be forgotten!

Such is the nature of sports, players and coaches come and go but the legacy lives on forever.

Best of luck in your future endeavors!
10/22/2012 11:08:27 AM
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